Remeber Me/Whitewater

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2002989791_webwhitewater12.html


NEW YORK – The former federal prosecutor who succeeded Kenneth W. Starr as independent counsel in the Whitewater investigation has been charged with stalking his ex-girlfriend, police said.

Robert W. Ray surrendered to police on Thursday. He was ordered to appear in court at a later date and released, police said.

A complaint filed by Ray's ex-girlfriend says he e-mailed, called and visited her against her wishes after their relationship ended.

Ray, 46, is now in private practice at Kelley Drye & Warren LLP. He did not immediately return a message left Friday at his office in Parsippany, N.J. Phone listings for his homes in Manhattan and Long Branch, N.J., could not be found.

[Gabi Hayes]

1. haaa...thanks. I heard this on the radio the other night, and forgot.

Robert Ray

when does it end?

it really won't, even after they're gone, if that happens

amazing how this gets no media play, yet they still love to make the Clenis jokes

[Cooley Hurd]

2. Another Repig Sexual Predator? GIT OUT!

He should be DISBARRED!:thumbsdown:

[Inland]

3. Oh, boy. Ray practically cleared Bill of any crimes.

Now every wingnut in Freeperville is going to say this proves that Bill really did get away with something.

[Cooley Hurd]

4. I think the FACTS cleared President Clinton...

Ray might've not been the partisan fucknut that Starr was, but the bottom line was that the Big Dog was flawed, a horndog, but NOT a rapist.

[Inland]

5. It took Ray to put an end to the bullshit investigation.

For years, every time a freeper type said that Bill was found guilty of a crime, all I had to do is show some article about Ray declining to charge. Now what.

[Cooley Hurd]

9. Ray ended the investigation because there was no "there" there...

If there was a "there" there, he would've nailed the Big Dog for it. They hounded Clinton even AFTER he left office (remember the "trashing of the WH" horseshit?)

[Inland]

11. Yes, that's what I think. But proving it to freeps is different.

Now, they'll say Ray cleared Bill because he's a perv just like Bill. Just saying.

[Gabi Hayes]

7. yes he was....just didn't have the time and exposure Starr got, cause

he came in to clean up the backwash

he tried his BEST to smear both Clintons.....see post number 6, which has Conason's word on what a prick Ray was then, and clearly remains today

[Cooley Hurd]

12. Starr, realizing that he was pursuing a big ol' pile of dung, tried to...

...resign to take a position at Pepperdine U (:puke:), but was swayed back ($$$) by Scaife, et al.

Thanks, GH! Most forget what a lame-o, fucked up attempt at unseating Big Dog it was . :thumbsup:

[Gabi Hayes]

6. have I told you lately how much I......

Joe Conason knows as much as ANYbody about the hunting of the president, its provenance, and its legacy

here's what he had to say about the execrable Robert Ray:



There was never a "Whitewater case." There was only a political prosecution that was transformed from a failed financial investigation into a successful sexual inquisition, encouraged by a media elite that ought to have exposed rather than applauded this gross abuse of prosecutorial power.


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The final report {by Ray, not Starr} does contain a tantalizing reference to the missing Rose billing records that caused all of Washington to swoon in January 1996, when they were found in the White House. The theory was that Mrs. Clinton had concealed her billing records because they would prove that she had guilty knowledge of swindles by McDougal and others. They proved the opposite, confirming her testimony (and reaffirming information previously available in other copies of the same records). There was no conceivable reason to hide them, and even less motive for producing them suddenly at the beginning of an election year.

But Starr's successor, Robert Ray, could not resist the impulse to impugn her reputation one last time. So he includes a reference to three witnesses who claimed to have seen Mrs. Clinton carrying a box of what "could have been" a "rolled-up sheaf" of billing records sometime in July 1995. Actually, only two of these individuals said they saw her carrying any papers, and none explained how they would have guessed what the billing record looked like.

"Insufficient evidence" is putting it mildly. But Ray has spent the past few months preparing to run for the Senate in New Jersey, where he must think that smearing Hillary Clinton will impress Republican primary voters.

With all its discussion of obstruction and concealment, this report is itself a form of cover-up. Its massive size and complexity are designed to obscure the fundamental truth. This case was dead as early as July 1995, when the Clintons were cleared by the Pillsbury report (a comparative bargain at only $3.5 million), and no later than January 1997, when Starr made his first abortive attempt to resign in frustration.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=5809&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

the comments are instructive, as well

[Gabi Hayes]

8. read this comment from the above link....sound familiar?

''The campaign against the Clinton administration has always reminded me of the sort of "black bag" operations the CIA undertakes when it tries to overthrow governments in foreign countries. I am particularly struck by how the media was used in this country to undermine a legitmately elected president. The litany of false rumors and ludicrous accusations are like the disinformation that CIA will spread to compliant media outlets in places like Chile, Guatamala, or Greece. This, I suppose, is the ultimate blowback; we have now suffered a blackbag op against our own system of government.''

[Gabi Hayes]

10. ''It's the media, stupid''...it always is, cause they're the ones who are

supposed to GUARD the truth, and TELL us what happens, not to walk hand in hand with those who would hide EVERYthing from us, in pursuit of absolute power

more from Conason

The media organizations that trumpeted those charges so credulously bear a heavy share of the responsibility for this costly charade. (It's worth remembering that Whitewater came to public attention the same way wrongly imprisoned nuclear scientist Wen Ho Lee did -- thanks to the New York Times.) As they did with Ray's statement, they continued to ignore the evidence that contradicted their own prejudiced investment in a story that went nowhere. And as of today, they show few signs of acknowledging their role in one of the most disgraceful episodes in modern American journalism.

Even if many in the national media continue to obsess about Whitewater, the public rendered its own verdict long ago. Millions of voters were at first bamboozled by partisan hysteria, particularly during the congressional elections of 1994, when doubts about Whitewater contributed to the historic Republican victory. But by 1996, when Clinton was easily reelected despite the prolonged Senate and House Whitewater hearings, the American people had apparently learned to disregard the scandal rhetoric recited by politicians and pundits. In 1998, two of the loudest Clinton critics in the Senate, Alfonse D'Amato of New York and Lauch Faircloth of North Carolina, were unceremoniously dumped by voters in their home states.

http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2000/09/22/whitewater/print.html