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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 01:49 PM
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I canceled my phone service a week after SCOTUS selected Bu*h
Edited on Sat May-13-06 01:51 PM by Zorra
dictator in 2000, and moved to Mexico, due to the probability of the US/global fascists following the repressive, methodical guidelines for establishing totalitarian dictatorships, shown by the historical precedents established in totalitarian political and socio-economic systems in Europe and the former Soviet Union during the first half of the 20th century.

I stopped using banks, grid power, and basically anything that could be used to invade my privacy - I even use random internet connections that are not in my name. I maintain a US residence so that I can vote, but have my mail delivered to a friend’s PO Box and then brought down to Mexico for me.

I figure that someday fairly soon the fascists will, doing what fascists do, just naturally use the information they gather on innocent folks like me to arrest and imprison anyone that dissents against the totalitarian regime the fascists have instituted in the US, and I don't want to be a number in their system, or have them know where I am, when they start rounding up innocent folks.

Fascists always forcibly eliminate any opposition to their power once they have consolidated their control and effectively identified their opposition.

That is why fascists are so methodically anal about collecting personal information about everyone they possibly can – they want to identify and eliminate as much of the democratic opposition and potential resistance to their power as possible.

Logically, the next major step that the fascists will take toward establishing their totalitarian stranglehold upon our nation is to manipulate electronic voting machines in order for them to maintain their control of Congress in the November elections. Unless we manage to somehow eliminate these machines from the balloting process, we will miss gaining control of the Senate by one or two seats, and fall short of regaining the House by 4-6 seats. This will happen despite an overwhelming majority of votes going to Democratic candidates. The fascists will simply manipulate the vote counting in those districts where the disparity between votes cast for republicans and Democrats is the least suspect, with republicans fraudulently winning elections in these districts by a few hundred or a few thousand votes.

Fascists like Rep. Bob Ney of Ohio put HAVA and electronic voting machines in place for a reason, and this reason is to maintain fascist control of our government until the dictatorship is fully consolidated. After that, there will be no need to maintain anything but a charade of the electoral process.

There is no other logical reason to use such a secretive, easily manipulated system for counting our votes. But, other than the “bigger hammer” method employed en masse just prior to elections, there seems to be no imminent solution to this problem, and time is of the essence. The republican fascists know that their continued control of our government, at this time and in the near and distant future, depends entirely on subverting our democratic process by manipulating vote counts within electronic voting/counting devices, used in strategic electoral districts, in order to maintain their control of Congress.

I hope and pray that those folks previously skeptical about the systematic fascist takeover of our country now fully understand, after being informed that the NSA has been and is illegally spying on and collecting as much private data on every innocent US citizen as possible, that we are indeed in imminent danger of losing our democracy, individual and collective freedom, and possibly our lives, to this group of traitorous fascists that is so totally committed to establishing their own brand of permanent authoritarian totalitarianism in the US.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 02:17 PM
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1. kick
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 02:50 PM
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2. People simply flat out refuse to believe it.
The more they deny it the more power these fascist thugs have.

Unfortunately what you say is true but even many hear at the DU refuse to open their minds to it.

Be safe & take care.

On a side note isn't Mexico a Fascist State?

With an incredibly corrupt government, military, judicial system.

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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:27 PM
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6. Both Mexico and the US are corrupt. One big difference is,
Mexico does not do a whole lot of spying on ordinary citizens. They don't have the technology, and frankly, they don't give a damn.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 01:39 AM
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14. Was just wondering..not trying to be antagonistic
Thanks for the info...
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 02:53 PM
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3. Jeez, you're scaring me.
I think we are getting to the point though where another stolen election will result in a lot more than a few annoyed bloggers. The American people are seriously angry at this point, and even the 2nd Amendment crowd are getting pretty pissed at Bewsh. Not a stable situation.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:56 PM
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8. And a situation ripe for the picking.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 03:07 PM
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4. Pfui
What a luxury. You have people who can support your exodus.

My choice is to stay and fght. If everyone did what you did, no one would be left to give it the fighting chance. America means more to me than to turn my back on it.

I'm unimpressed with your decision.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:14 PM
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5. You know, eleny, you may want to reconsider your post.
Edited on Sat May-13-06 11:33 PM by Zorra
It makes you appear to have a very insular and narrow view of the world.

You are making assumptions about things that you apparently know little about.

Did it ever occur to you that, among other things, Americans that live in other countries can organize and help register other Americans to vote?

And it seems that you missed the point of my post entirely.

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:49 PM
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7. Seems like you missed making your own point
All you talked about was how you engineered your exodus and that you come back to the U.S. to vote. No one should have to assume anything more than that from your original post. I commented on what you chose to share about yourself. But I guess that never occurred to you.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:57 PM
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10. can't we all just get along?
I love everybody....well, almost



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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:10 AM
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11. It seems that the other folks that responded to my post got my
point.

I'm really sorry that I cannot make it clear to you also.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 12:25 AM
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12. I couldn't care less how others feel about you
I'm accustomed to making up my own mind.

It's odd that first you said I assumed things about you. Then you expected me to assume something about you that you never talked about in your original post. You're nothing but a waste of time. Goodnight. I'm done with you and your thread.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:57 PM
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9. I rate this excellent post up and I applaud your efforts outside of the
country. We'll need people in and outside the country to fight this fascists state - we need world wide press coverage especially of the upcoming voting machines and vote tabulations rigging and manipulation.

and urging other Americans outside of country to vote (despite the fraud/rigging) is extremely useful so long as there is follow up actions after the fraudulent results.

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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 01:21 AM
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13. I really hope that we can stop these machines from being used
before the November elections somehow. It seems to me that the fascists taken control of our judicial system to a large extent, they certainly have control of SCOTUS, and will a fascist judge rule to overturn an election even if blatant election fraud is proven beyond all doubt? We know what the fascist SCOTUS did in the 2000 election - they illegally appointed Bu*h pResident

If we, and MSM, can raise public awareness of the inherent danger of electronic voting to the point where there is mass outrage, we might have a chance at pulling off a miracle and getting the use of electronic voting machines suspended before November, but I'm not holding my breath.



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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 03:13 AM
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15. I admire your foresight.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 05:29 AM
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16. Kick and Nom #11. heading to the North Country in August 07
I hope that they haven't already closed the borders by then.
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