cell phone calls not recorded per MacCafferty cnn now.

[rodeodance]

[rodeodance]

1. 'utterly moronic" to assume this will catch terrorists.

[rodeodance]

2. guest says he is waiting for other shoe to drop-like they are listening to

phone calls.

[rodeodance]

4. Jim Harper from CATO institute.

[C_U_L8R]

3. i don't believe it

telcos have a HUGE consumer trust problem on their hands

[rodeodance]

5. what do you not believe?

[C_U_L8R]

9. i don't believe our cell phones

are not tracked and tapped

[EFerrari]

11. Anyone can listen to cell phone calls or cordless calls.

It's called radio, and the NSA mastered that a long time ago -- unless I'm missing what Jack means.

In other words, they don't need to "trap" them to monitor them.

[Eurobabe]

7. ferchrissakes just about everything in the US

has a HUGE consumer trust problem on its hands, from the gubment to corporations, etc.

[bryant69]

6. That's consistent with what they've said, unless I missed something?

There are two programs, connected

1. Listening to calls without the bother of a warrent - these are supposadly international calls with people on terrorist lists.

2. Collecting records of all calls. Information would include numbers called and routing and what not. ALso done without a warrent.

The problem isn't necessarily in what they say they are doing (although I'm not keen on the second one). The problem is that there is no oversight.

For example they find that someone on Pelosis staff calls a phone sex line, and some helpful "overzealous staffer" forwards it to the Washington Post. As far as we know there's nothing stopping that from happening (or other similarly compromising actions). And we don't really know that they are monitoring only foreign calls (other than that we have their word for it.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[AndyTiedye]

12. Or They Find That 2 Competing Companies' CEOs are Talking A Lot…

…and go buy a bunch of stock in the smaller company in time to profit from the soon-to-be-announced merger.

[Gabi Hayes]

8. just the tip

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1173417&mesg_id=1173417

[Jack Rabbit]

10. Who says so?

Somebody in the Bush regime? What is Bush's word worth?

[The Backlash Cometh]

13. Do you all realize that the laws protect land lines, but not cell phones?

So the sons of bitches went after the land lines. Unbelieveable.