Recently fired Mary McCarthy had been investigating Foggo

[Rose Siding]

from TPM (responsibly noted as speculation)-

snip>
The biggest scalp bagged by those {Foggo's} leak investigations was CIA historian and Africa specialist Mary McCarthy. You remember that a few weeks ago she was fired from the Agency, just before retiring, allegedly for leaking information to the Washington Post's Dana Priest.

Now, in emails today, several readers noted the fact that at the time of her firing, McCarthy was working in the CIA's Inspector General's office, the same office that was then investigating Foggo and not more than a few weeks after McCarthy's firing would participating in raids on Foggo's home and office.
....
At a minimum, if Foggo was the prime mover behind investigating and firing McCarthy and today he's barred from entering the CIA campus and the target of a corruption investigation, the whole McCarthy saga deserves a fresh look.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/008448.php

http://upload.wikimedia.org.nyud.net:8090/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/10/Rubiks_cube.jpg/200px-Rubiks_cube.jpg

[MissWaverly]

1. Hooray, I hope she gets her job back

does it count if you're fired to keep a crook from being outed. They should have given her a
medal. Hey, George, you gotta any medal of freedoms in the back, oh, you're saving them for
later when you pardon Karl and Scooter. Well, order some more, we have a real patriot here.

[Tigress DEM]

5. So when the DEMS get this country back, our new PREZ should

think about moving her up, up, up in the ranks.



DEMOCRATIC People's Memo to the Politicians:

ATTENTION: 2006 forward.

Appoint only COMPETENT people (with the integrity to do their job even if it means facing down a corrupt administration) into offices where the country depends upon their services for national security.

Thank You.

Your Employers
WE THE PEOPLE

[MissWaverly]

25. yes, that's the ticket, promote Fitz, the crime fighter as well

[Tigress DEM]

29. I'd VOTE for that! Keys to the city and a parade too!!

:toast:

[MissWaverly]

31. Yes, make him AG instead of Mr. Ok to Torture

[Tigress DEM]

32. Hell Yes!! Fitz for US AG. I like it!!

[cantstandbush]

38. Why the fuck are the media not reporting all this shit? I am pissed!!

Where besides Truthout, Buzzflash, and the DU have you heard anything about this or Rove's indictment?

[Canuckistanian]

9. She was about to retire. I don't think she'd want back now.

Maybe just a symbolic act to vindicate herself, but I don't think she'd want to stay, especially with another 2 years of Señor Pyschopath.

[electropop]

11. Senor Psycho will be gone by August.

He's right on track with Nixon's schedule, except the scandals are breaking at a much faster pace.

[jdeetz1019]

12. August?

You really think the house of cards will collapse that quickly? I hope you are right.

[newyawker99]

15. Hi jdeetz1019!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Canuckistanian]

47. Welcome to DU!

In my scholarly opinion, August is a very opportune time.

(Dark warning alert) If not, there will be.......trouble.

[leveymg]

19. It's either that or the Guns of August, redux

Are we all ready for the first world war of the 21st Century?

Neither the Joint Chiefs of Staff nor the CIA think so. They even prosecuted WHIG to make their point. They're not going to let AIPAC, PNAC and the rest of the neocons get their way on attacking Iran after going to all the trouble of standing down the White House.

[electropop]

36. Bush has made the CIA into our ally,

but it's the GOP in Congress which is going to flush him down the crapper. They are desperate to retain their seats, and avoid the inevitable criminal investigations which the Dems will do. Bush is a rterrible liability to them , so he must go.

[leveymg]

37. I agree. There's only one thing I would suggest -

Bush made us see the CIA as an ally, and as our only salvation after the political process broke down in the face of treason from above. Single-party systems don't work unless the Chief Executive and Congressional leaders are extraordinarily enlightened -- Dubya isn't FDR. He isn't even Nixon. The rest of the GOP leadership is below contempt and utterly corrupt. The system failed, and it needs to be fixed in some fundamental ways. America needs to fundamentally rethink how we finance and conduct elections, and make political surveillance and election tampering a capital crime.

In addition, I would add the Joint Chiefs and their staff to those who are showing themselves to be reponsible patriots. It's been amazing to see Pete Pace these past few months speak out, even contradict, Rumsfeld and even Bush, when he had to. If we make it through to November without being pushed into another aggressive war, I think we'll be all right.

Finally, lets not forget there are still people with integrity at the Justice Department.

The spooks, brass, and AUSAs will have again earned the thanks of a grateful nation. They haven't changed -- as much as we have.

[electropop]

39. We need to be very vigilant about ever again getting into a bind

so bad that only the DoJ and the CIA can save us. Neither organization is exactly angelic, and we may not be so lucky next time. I agree, election tampering ought to at least be punishable by life imprisonment, with green baloney and water to eat.

[Canuckistanian]

46. Can I quote you on that?

Ah, the hell with it.

Agreed. They're so far beyond lame duck status, August is very generous.

:party: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party:

[MissWaverly]

24. well, it may mean a difference of pension or no pension

remember this is bush world

[electropop]

40. I think I heard that technically, she had already retired and will

draw a full pension. She was taking some sort of "retirement course" that's considered a perk, so it sounds (if true) as if the consequences to her won't be too bad in practical terms.

[MissWaverly]

42. that's a blessing

[Lasher]

2. Woah, great find!

And remember, McCarthy vigorously denies the accusation that she leaked classified information. I remember reading that associates said this would have been totally out of character for her.

Edit: This one made it to the Greatest Page so fast I almost got whiplash watching it.

[WiseButAngrySara]

17. LOL! Lasher got whiplash? DUers know quality material when they

read it!

[C_U_L8R]

3. There are all sorts of high stakes games afoot

and we're hardly even spectators.

Who knows what Shakespearean drama is going on...
but it usually doesn't end well for the Tyrant King.

[speedoo]

7. Yep, Pissing off the CIA is definitely not a swell strategy.

Without question, people in Langley are working to exact some justice for the many wrongs done to the CIA by this mis-administration.

[MissWaverly]

26. Bush's wrongs are on a global scale

[speedoo]

4. Reminds me of another firing that backfired...

The investigator who was working on the Abramoff/DeLay illegal activites in Guam.

[havocmom]

6. Score another one for Larry Johnson!

He wrote, on April 22, that she worked in Inspector Genera's office and if the info about moving and holding prisoners in eastern European prisons by CIA got across her desk it meant the CIA Inspector General's office was already investigating the illegal ops. If she knew (and could possibly have leaked) then a whole lotta people knew before her.

http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/04/the_firing_of_m.html#more

...In fact, there are some things about the case that puzzle me. For starters, Mary never worked on the Operations side of the house. In other words, she never worked a job where she would have had first hand operational knowledge about secret prisons. She worked the analytical side of the CIA and served with the National Intelligence Council. According to press reports, she subsequently worked at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) from 2001 thru 2005. That is a type of academic/policy wonk position and, again, would not put her in a position to know anything first hand about secret prisons.

Sometime within the last year she returned to CIA on a terminal assignment. I've heard through the grapevine that she was attending the seminar for officers who are retiring while working with the Inspector General (IG). Now things get interesting. She could find out about secret prisons if Intelligence Officers involved with that program had filed a complaint with the IG or if there was some incident that compelled senior CIA officials to determine an investigation was warranted. In other words, this program did not come to Mary's attention (if the allegations are true) because she worked on it as an ops officer. Instead, it appears an investigation of the practice had been proposed or was underway. That's another story reporters probably ought to be tracking down.

And, let's see... Foggo worked recently in ops in Germany/East Europe!

Oh, and Mary was just shy of being able to retire. Foggo might've had fun agruing they would save the government $$ on her pension if he was in any way responsible for her firing.

The chess game is getting interesting. The good spooks and the bad spooks seem to be taking it to the streets.

Larry Johnson's blog always worth a look

[jazzjunkysue]

8. This is what you deserve for not speaking up: You get played.

She may deserve her job back, of course, but, everyone who plays along with crooks and liars will eventually regret it, after they continue a few more months or years of collecting power and $$$ from the Bush crime family feed bag.

I would have walked before inauguration if I had a DC job in 2000. I could smell all this coming. Most people thought I was a conspiracy theorist, but now, the polls agree with me.

Thank god for DU or I would have really thought I was losing it back then.

[Tigress DEM]

10. And if EVERYONE who had any scruples had walked in 2000...

WE would have had ZERO damage control.

WE would have had an unchecked reign of terror from the get go with no chance that Fitzgerald or even a full fledged movement of the people could get our counrty back on track.

WE are a rule of law country and we have to have EVIDENCE which is hard enough to get when we do have some people willing to risk it all to get it for US, but if they all had walked they would have been replaced with willing right wing schills and we NEVER would have gotten the opportunity to become wise to all the games they play so we can put an end to it.

[leveymg]

20. Don't be TOO idealistic. If WMDs had been found in Iraq, no one would

have been prosecuted.

Law is politics, and politics is power, but ultimately traitors are destroyed.

[Tigress DEM]

27. I think you meant to post to #8

:think:

[leveymg]

33. I was responding to your "rule of law country" comment.

I wish I could agree that this really demonstrates that law and justice triumph in the end in America. But, to be completely honest,I think this shows that those who wage losing wars pay.

In June 2003, most in Washington were perfectly happy to give the cabal a pass (regardless of the crimes they knew had been committed, the lives lost and the careers ruined), but the rationale for invasion was soon shown publicly -- so humiliatingly -- to be a complete, disasterous lie. Also, if the Iraq occupation had turned out to be the cakewalk the neocons predicted, likely the prosecutions would have been allowed to quietly die.

I hope I'm not too cynical, but I think this is pretty close to being the truth.

[nolabels]

50. You got to be kidding, too cynical

One of the big things that has many confused is that they haven't been able to write the fairy tales fast enough because a few of the players have been a little out of character. Kind of funny to think about it, the writers of the STORIES have a hard time even trying write themselves out of their STORIES.

I surmise that things will be much smoother after they figure out the total difference between a grand fraud and this half-baked sack of potatoes that might be sitting next to it.


http://www.superchefblog.com/2005/01/tsunami-update-4-us-ex-presidents-lead.html

[jdeetz1019]

13. This is sooo unsurprising coming from this gang

I hope Mary gets her justice somehow.

[TexasLawyer]

14. WOW!!!

Looks like they have a LOT to hide. This one could get REALLY interesting.

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[WiseButAngrySara]

16. I thought she had pleaded innocence to the charges of leaking

information. This is very interesting. It looks as if she was made a 'target' in more ways than one. These people are so seedy!

[BR_Parkway]

18. She was also one who signed off "Concur" on Richard Clarke's

assessment that ShrubCo ignored.

[leveymg]

21. Where did you read that?

Thanks for the info. :hi:

[Sydnie]

23. See my post #22

I also posted about this before with little attention to the info.

edited to add link to my previous thread on this subject. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1124094&mesg_id=1124094

[Sydnie]

22. Interesting side note

Mary McCarthy was a supporter of Clarke's position in his January 2001 memo to Rice. Clarke lists her at the end of the memo as "Concurence by".

Check it out. http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB147/clarke%20memo.pdf

Then check out the career paths of the others listed that way too. Interesting stuff.

[leveymg]

28. What's happened w/the other concurrers?

Fried, Riedel and Camp? Might be interesting to look them up.

I can see why this memo didn't seem to mesh with Condi's Grand Strategy. It didn't justify invading Iraq, Iran and Syria, per Wurmser and Perle's "A Clean Break".

[Sydnie]

30. I did a little looking in this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1124094&mesg_id=1124094

but someone with better "drill down" skills should be looking at this. Many times I am not quite sure what I am looking at when I see it, know what I mean? :)

[leveymg]

35. Looks like Reidel's also a casualty, of sorts

I'll look into it a bit and report back later.

Thanks!!!!!

[leveymg]

51. Reidel was done in by the neocons, who also targeted Powell, Zinni, and

Burns. They're also mentioned in this 12/24/01 article from The New Republic: http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20011224&s=kaplan122401

But no amount of Saudi griping could overcome what happened next. The Palestinians welcomed Zinni to the region with a parade of suicide bombers, who, in the space of one day, killed 25 Israelis. As a result, the former general's mission effectively ended before it began, wasting the political capital the Bush administration had expended at Saudi behest. And since the attacks, members of the White House national security team claim Bush has lost whatever little trust he once possessed in Arafat. National security adviser Condoleezza Rice and her deputy, Stephen Hadley, have also turned squarely against the Palestinian leader. At a meeting in the aftermath of the attacks, they asked how the United States would know if Arafat was upholding his pledge to clamp down on terrorism. The answer came back: when that clampdown prompts internecine violence on the Palestinian street, a standard that has since become an unofficial barometer for measuring Arafat's sincerity. Even Powell and Burns were said to be livid at the Palestinian leader. In his meeting with Sharon the day after the attacks, Bush, according to Israeli officials, said Israel could take whatever action it deemed necessary, short of ousting Arafat and dismantling the Palestinian Authority. As for the Saudis, a senior administration official claims Bush "was already chafing at the complaints, and ... he won't be inclined to take their advice again any time soon."

But how soon is "any time soon"? This week the Saudi foreign minister met with Bush again, ostensibly to be reminded what steps his country must take to crack down on terror. Instead he ended up reminding the president what steps must be taken to crack down on Israel. Nor have administration officials tempered their public--and phony--exultations about "across the board" Saudi cooperation in the war against terror. National Security Council Senior Director for Near East Affairs Bruce Reidel, who has revealed himself to be a much closer friend to the Saudis than to the Israelis, will be stepping down later this month. Yet administration officials say the candidates most likely to replace him--Ambassador to Yemen Barbara Bodine and former Deputy Assistant Secretary for Defense Alina Romanowski--may prove even less supportive of the Jewish state. The Israelis also worry that, as soon as the violence abates or Arafat takes cosmetic steps to restrain Palestinian terrorists, the administration will heed Saudi counsel once more. Of course, the president could always follow his own instincts instead. They've certainly proved far superior to his father's, not to mention the rogues whispering in his ear.

Lawrence F. Kaplan is a senior editor at The New Republic.

[leveymg]

53. Reidel's successors are interesting: Khalilzad and then Abrams,

and particularly how this signaled the growing influence of the neocons over Rice, and by extension, Bush, which led to the push to invade Iraq, by force of lies if necessary. That brings us full circle back to the role of MZM's Ward and his friend Foggo in manufacturing false evidence of Iraq WMDs.

Jim Lobe, 12/09/2002, http://www.alternet.org/story/14720

Foreshadowing the current U.S. policy based on superior military power, Abrams recommended that in the Middle East "our military strength and willingness to use it" should be the "key factor in our ability to promote peace. Yet another American Likudnik is moving to a position where they control Washington's agenda in the Mideast," said Rashid Khalidi, a Mideast historian at the University of Chicago. "This is a tragedy for the Israeli and American people." Likud is the rightwing Israeli party headed by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. Currently the NSC staff chief for Democracy, Human Rights, and International Operations, Abrams will become Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director on the NSC for Near East and North African Affairs.

As such, he will be in charge of presenting policy papers and options for National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, whose own opinions have proven decisive in cases where the president receives conflicting views from hawks, represented by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Dick Cheney, and the more dovish Secretary of State, Colin Powell, who is often backed by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the uniformed military. Rice, a Russia specialist, had no experience with Mideast issues until her current job.

Abrams will replace Zalmay Khalilzad, a prominent foreign policy strategist whose views on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict are considered much more neutral than Abrams'. Khalilzad succeeded Clinton holdover Bruce Reidel early last year but was quickly consumed with his native-born Afghanistan after being named special envoy to the interim president, Hamid Karzai. Khalilzad will now become "ambassador-at-large for free Iraqis" and is expected to play a key role in sorting out internal conflicts among the Iraqi opposition. Both Khalilzad and Abrams were among the signatories of the 1997 founding statement of principles of the Project for the New American Century, whose neoconservative and hawkish foreign policy positions have found a home in the Bush administration.

[leveymg]

52. Reidel was also a major critic of Pakistan's nuclear agenda

Reidel's critics make strange bedfellows: the Israeli Right, the neocons and Pakistani generals and nuclear planners. On the latter, see: http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:NnWw4IbDPTkJ:www.ipcs.org/newIpcsPublications.jsp%3Fstatus%3Dpublications%26status1%3Dissue%26mod%3Dd%26check%3D25%26try%3Dtrue+Bruce+Reidel&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=27&ie=UTF-8

Neither the Indian nor the Pakistani leadership seem truly aware of the great risks in a nuclear confrontation. This may seem odd; but how can one explain the regularity with which nuclear threats are issued and provocative actions taken during bilateral crises. Examples can be multiplied, but three would suffice.

n First, at the height of the Kargil conflict Pakistan’s Foreign Secretary warned India that Islamabad could use “any weapon” to defend his country’s territorial integrity.


n Second, we have an account by Bruce Reidel, an aide to President Clinton, informing us that U.S. intelligence had uncovered “ disturbing evidence that the Pakistanis were preparing their nuclear arsenals for possible deployment ” during the Kargil conflict. President Clinton enquired about this from Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif during their meeting, who “only said that India was probably doing the same.”

n Third, a series of missile tests were undertaken by India and Pakistan during their border confrontation over 2001-02 to warn each other at different tense junctures during this crisis, despite the certain knowledge that these provocative actions would raise the temperature and escalate the situation. Nuclear threats were also routinely hurled against each other.

On a related note, see my article about Valerie Plame's work that intersected the same territory. Could it be that Valerie was also target of WHIG, because Brewster-Jennings was pointing to Pakistani proliferation as a more serious threat than anything that was alleged to be happening in the Iraq WMD program? : http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/3/20/14939/6889

New Evidence of Motive In Plame Outing?
by leveymg
Mon Mar 20, 2006 at 11:09:39 AM PDT
Did Plame's Outing Disrupt CIA Iran Assessment?

UPDATED - A court filing in the Libby case indicates that a former Agency counterrorism officer in Pakistan revealed Plame's undercover role to I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby. This may provide support for the contention that the subsequent outing of Plame crippled work that was being done by the CIA to track and contain the proliferation of nuclear technologies spread by A.Q. Khan's network. Specifically, it may have effectively neutralized CIA analytical capability concerning Iran's weapons program, opening the door to tainted intelligence intended to pave the way for a preemptive U.S. or Israeli strike against Iranian nuclear facilities. See, http://www.truthout.org/... also see, the 39-page filing, http://talkleft.com/...

leveymg's diary :: ::
Mr. Libby has been indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice related to a coordinated White House operation that revealed Ms. Plame's identity to reporters. The 39-page filing submitted by defense lawyers indicates that Robert Grenier, a recently-retired former head of CIA counter-terrorism, may have been the source for some details of Libby's knowledge about Plame, an undercover CIA counterproliferation expert. Appointed head of counterrorism in 2004, Grenier was Chief of Station in Islamabad, and had been working in Pakistan for many years, a position that would make him familiar with A.Q. Khan's activities. According to a February Washington Post report printed at the time of Grenier's departure from the Agency in February, Grenier had been recalled from Pakistan to headquarters and been tasked to head the Iraq Issues Group in anticipation of the U.S. invasion. According to The Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

Robert Grenier, who spent most of his career undercover overseas, took charge of the Counterterrorism Center about a year ago after a series of senior jobs at the center of the Bush administration's national security agenda.

When al Qaeda struck the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001, Grenier was station chief in Islamabad, Pakistan. Among the agency's most experienced officers in southwest Asia, Grenier helped plan the covert campaign that preceded the U.S. military ouster of al Qaeda and its Taliban allies from Afghanistan.

By the summer of 2002, with President Bush heading toward war in Iraq, then-Director of Central Intelligence George J. Tenet recalled Grenier to headquarters and promoted him to chief of a newly created Iraq Issues Group. His staff ballooned as the administration planned and launched the invasion in March 2003.

It is unknown whether Grenier became acquainted with Plame during his stint at CIA headquarters, or whether they had previously worked on matters in South Asia. But, both would likely have extensive knowledge of matters related to Pakistan's commerce in nuclear technology with Iran. From the mid-1980s until 1997, the A.Q. Khan network was Iran's primary supplier of nuclear know-how.

The A.Q. Khan network was of interest to both the CIA counter-terrorism and counter-proliferation divisions

The court filing revealing Mr. Grenier's knowledge of Ms. Plame sheds new light on how the CIA's nuclear counterproliferation activities were connected to counter-terrorism operations in South Asia, and some new clues to Plame's role at CIA.

It has been reported that Plame's primary assignment at the time of her outing in the summer of 2003 was Iran's nuclear program. If Grenier's knowledge of Plame's role was gained during the run-up to the Iraq invasion, it might indicate that Grenier simply worked down the hall from Plame. On the other hand, the two may have had a closer acquaintance. If Grenier had been working with Plame earlier, this would have much broader implications for Plame's role within the Agency and might suggest possible additional motives for the White House Iraq Group (WHIG) to ruin her career.

SNIP

That still leaves the question, what is the Israeli interest in the Pakistani nuclear program, and did Reidel and Clarke step on the toes of this side-line of the "special relationship"?

[Chimichurri]

34. And the plot thickens...

She should sue. This is like being trapped in a horror movie.

[Roland99]

41. Well, now, isn't that interesting?

Similar to outing Plame, firing Lindsey, trashing Clarke, etc. etc.

[Justice Is Comin]

43. Let's reopen the

Dan Rather sham too. Maybe someone will have enough integrity to come forward now.

[Critters2]

44. So are they gonna fire

all those FBI guys who were rummaging through his house the other day?

[Mr_Spock]

45. I hope this is investigated further - seems awful suspicious

You have to wonder if there was more to that firing than meets the eye...

[ngGale]

48. Gosh, I love these threads...

the smell of justice.:-)

[Garbo 2004]

49. IG's office, not necessarily McCarthy, investigating Foggo. WaPo article

has some interesting info on what she was reportedly concerned about:

Fired Officer Believed CIA Lied to Congress
Friends Say McCarthy Learned of Denials About Detainees' Treatment

By R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, May 14, 2006; A01

A senior CIA official, meeting with Senate staff in a secure room of the Capitol last June, promised repeatedly that the agency did not violate or seek to violate an international treaty that bars cruel, inhumane or degrading treatment of detainees, during interrogations it conducted in the Middle East and elsewhere.

But another CIA officer -- the agency's deputy inspector general, who for the previous year had been probing allegations of criminal mistreatment by the CIA and its contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan -- was startled to hear what she considered an outright falsehood, according to people familiar with her account. It came during the discussion of legislation that would constrain the CIA's interrogations.

That CIA officer was Mary O. McCarthy, 61, who was fired on April 20 for allegedly sharing classified information with journalists, including Washington Post journalist Dana Priest. A CIA employee of two decades, McCarthy became convinced that "CIA people had lied" in that briefing, as one of her friends said later, not only because the agency had conducted abusive interrogations but also because its policies authorized treatment that she considered cruel, inhumane or degrading.

Whether McCarthy's conviction that the CIA was hiding unpleasant truths provoked her to leak sensitive information is known only to her and the journalists she is alleged to have spoken with last year. But the picture of her that emerges from interviews with more than a dozen former colleagues is of an independent-minded analyst who became convinced that on multiple occasions the agency had not given accurate or complete information to its congressional overseers.

Full article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/13/AR2006051301311_pf.html