Do you think Bush has collected a database of gun owners?

[NNN0LHI]

[Solo_in_MD]

1. However, it did not start with Bush Jr

BATF has been trying to build one for years, spanning both Dem and Repub administrations despite specific language from Congress telling them they can not.

[C_U_L8R]

2. And every freeper too

It's pretty much a sure thing that every freeper
posting (complete with IP reverse look-upped to
internet acounts, credit cards and home addresses)
is sitting in an NSA database just waiting to be used
and abused (by repubs or dems). They'll just never know
the true reason that their taxes got audited, their insurance
rates hiked, their credit refused or any number of "unexplained"
eventualities. It could be a spiteful Bush or a vengeful Hillary
who puts the clamp down to keep the freep sheep in line.
It really doesn't matter. This whole wiretap thing is
an enormous abuse.. of everyone... every American...
and it must be stopped.

And don't forget every DU post is probably being cataloged
as well (so fuck you NSA and have a nice day)

[MessiahRp]

3. Isn't this what the Brady Bill was doing?

Registering to buy a weapon (besides the delay in purchase so they can run FBI criminal background checks) was supposed to be part of establishing a database I thought.

Rp

[hobbit709]

5. Unless you have guns bought before the Brady Bill

or bought as a private sale, then they're in a data base. Then the older guns are only listed by serial number to the manufacturere and the original point of sale.

[sandnsea]

12. No

A national database of gun owners was never part of the Brady Bill. A short term 90 day database of the background checks was created. Ashcroft did away with that, records of who gets a background check are destroyed within 24 hours. Supposedly. We now know they would just do what they want and not tell us.

[wtmusic]

4. We should assume

the NSA has collected a database of anything they can get their hands on.
Their resources are virtually unlimited, and storage is cheap.

[rzemanfl]

6. My guns go way the hell back, stores I bought them at have been

closed twenty-thirty years, not much good against an assault rifle though.

[NNN0LHI]

8. Do you ever purchase bullets?

I assume that would be enough to be included in a gun owners database.

Don

[rzemanfl]

9. Bullets are only sold separately if you load your own ammunition.

I haven't bought ammunition in a long time. I think they only keep track of handgun ammo, but I don't know that for sure.

[salin]

7. First blush I would say no ala rw political allegiance to the NRA... but,

on second thought I would say yes - then cross referenced for political affiliation and donations... then toss away records for 'friends' and keep for future reference those who are not 'friends' (ie, far beyond an enemies list - to include all who do not directly and overtly support.)

[leesa]

10. The NRA has always shared their membership list with law enforcement

It always cracked me up when the gun loonies would rave on and on about registration yet they were NRA members...guess what? You're registered!

[MrBenchley]

11. It's called the Republican donor list.....

You'll notice that when Katherine Harris needed to go dialing for dipshits, she picked up her p
"The visit to the gun range will double as a photo op, with media invited to broadcast images of Harris that could play well with gun rights advocates.
The NRA-designed course, titled "First Steps in Pistol Orientation," includes two hours of instruction on gun laws and firearm safety. The group then goes for target practice at the 93-acre Hallelujahland Ranch in central Pasco, owned by James F. Griffin III, a member of the local Republican Executive Committee."

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060512/NEWS/605120371/1004

By the way, two hours at a shooting gallery is enough to let ANY fuckwit wander around Florida packing heat. But then bad government, the GOP and the gun lobby go hand in hand.

[Protagoras]

13. Given the cowardly nature of this admin

I think it's more likely they keep a database on those who don't own guns...because as we've seen they appear to fear and avoid anyone who could actually fight back.

God we live in vile times.

[0007]

14. .....and your bank and your internet use.

[AnnieBW]

15. Yes, but

it's to solicit them for campaign contributions! Remember, those evil libruls want to take their rights away! :sarcasm:

[Jeffersons Ghost]

16. I think too many guns are totally undocumented in the US...

like unregistered guns grand dad left his kids. Bush would create that data base if he could.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

17. Only for a mailing list to solicit donations...