Abortion Truth - No One Likes It (stay with me on this)...

[Peter Frank]

What most Americans (I'm an Independent American) don't get is that no one likes abortion. Democrats don't like it anymore than Republicans (only an insane person could actually like the practice).

From my perspective, the Republican leadership has been unrealistic about it though. Yes, in an ideal world, no one would have an unwanted pregnancy for any reason -- and no one would seek to abort.

However, reality is otherwise; and it's only a matter of compassionate pragmatism to make sure that the deeply troubled girls and women who decide to end their pregnancies can do so without killing themselves via botched black market abortions.

I'm sure their loved ones would want this.

[OKNancy]

1. I agree with most of what you write, however

many women who get abortions, especially older women, would never consider themselves "deeply troubled".

[Peter Frank]

2. You were never deeply troubled by a pregnancy? n/t

[REP]

8. Not In the Way "Deeply Troubled" Is Commonly Used, No

"Deeply troubled" is a euphemism for crazy or mentally ill. No, I wasn't dangerously mentally ill with an unwanted pregnancy. I knew I never wanted to be pregnant; I was upset my birth control had failed; I wanted to be unpregnant as quickly as possible but no, I never lost my mind, became irrational or was a danger to myself or others due to it.

[Peter Frank]

3. My Bad...

[northamericancitizen]

4. Sometimes the word "troubled" has a derogative quonotation. nt

[pretzel4gore]

5. if they want to enforce the 'moral code'

do it while our morals are being formed, in school and early childhood family/community training -the anti abortionists, or pro lifes, get to ignore schooling and so on with all the savings in taxes etc but then demand the high moral standards (based upon carefully conjectured emotions of theoretical sympathy for the 'fetus' which is belied by their very political actions regards supporting young moms across the board).... It's no fun to win the abortion argument, but it's almost grotesqe and evil to lose it, as the anti abortionists do by default (by not caring about supporting the moms who do have their babies)
the prolife-ers want to fight the battle in the court of easily swayed public opinion, where $ counts, cuz ultimately they despise the very children whose fates they supposedly champion!
it's win win win, for the devil...
fukkem all and let god sortem out

[rodeodance]

6. i am beginning to think there is no compassion in our gov. at this time-

..However, reality is otherwise; and it's only a matter of compassionate pragmatism to make sure that the deeply troubled girls and women who decide to end their pregnancies can do so without killing themselves via botched black market abortions.

[pretzel4gore]

7. i think such suffering makes them horny

really; they defy contempt, imo.....morality and politics and ethics and 'what to do' regavds justice have taxed philosophy since Aristotle, since Isaaah and Moses, since Confucius-yet nitwits straighten out the Gordian knot by throwing out the ball of yarn(?)
the ratwing is beneath contempt- bush is rightly their representative/hero

[Peter Frank]

9. This isn't our gov. - It's its own...

Reclaim...

[Scout]

10. the deeply troubled girls and women who decide to end their pregnancies

wtf does this mean?

explain please.

[bluemarkers]

11. you are on the right track

I have been sneering refereed to as pro abortion.... I've answered several ways.

One way is to say no more than you are pro coat hanger.

Another is to answer "yes" abortions are great! Everyone should have them.

obviously the sarcastic answers are endless, but the point is made. And I follow up with a discussion in which we usually agree:

In my opinion:

no one should use abortion as birth control - the choice is not to have unprotected sex.

As a medical procedure, it should not be regulated by Congress

As a personal decision, it should not be decided upon by strangers.

Abortions were down under Clinton, prosperity and better health care.

China, who holds the US by its you know whats with those IOUs, sponsors abortions. Why are lifers not concerned about that?

Once a child is born, do you not think its LIFE is worth health care, education, shelter, clothing etc...


The best was when a racist jerk and I were discussing this - "All abortions, even in the case of rape and incest are a mortal sin." "Oh. really? Even if your white wife was raped by a black man and conceived - you would have make her have the child and you would raise it and love it as your own?" He never did answer me.

[MichiganVote]

12. Abortion is only one slice of the debate re: reproductive rights

Women want reproductive rights. Period.

[JerseygirlCT]

13. I'm with ya until your "deeply troubled"

women of all ages and mental states have had and have needed abortions. Seeking one does not make a woman "deeply troubled". Some are terribly torn by the prospect, some are not. In any case, it's their business, and their business only why they seek an abortion.

Don't paint women as some sort of mentally unstable creatures who need to be allowed this transgression.

This is a personal issue -- extraordinarily personal. And yes, until all pregnancies are wanted pregnancies, abortion will be a necessity. Maybe a less than desirable one, but so are root canals.

[Peter Frank]

14. You misunderstood my intent (this happens allot here)...

When I said, "deeply troubled girls and women who decide to end their pregnancies" thhis was an invitation to prove a point -- didn't happen (but it could have).