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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 03:53 PM Original message |
*ANYONE* Who Says the NSA Isn't recording PHONE CONVERSATIONS |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. No s***!! |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. this is the box installed at ATT |
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michael_1166 (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
39. Yes, and this is what they state their "Intercept Suite" can do |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:33 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. But here's the good news -- |
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michael_1166 (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 10:52 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Interesting, thanks! :-) |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. They Could Be Making BILLIONS of DOLLARS with That Information |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 10:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. It gives them the inside edge in political campaigns, too. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. These guys are proven and self-admitted liars. Why would we believe them |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
5. what are they doing with it? LOL! |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Very naive apparently. nt |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
32. They are keeping their list, checking it twice, knowing who's been naughty |
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JetCityLiberal (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 11:41 AM Response to Reply #5 |
44. Yep |
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No New War (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. Either that OR |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
7. what are they doing with all that data? |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. No, it's not possible to record all phone conversations. |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 08:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I disagree... |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 12:02 PM Response to Reply #9 |
45. Not feasible... |
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mikelewis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 08:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. 312 Terabytes of Space needed per day... |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. That'd be about $200 million per year in storage costs |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:45 AM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Yes, and companies like Oracle and others have been more than happy to |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. The government has plenty of $. They just sneak some of it out of the |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 10:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. Not necessary to record all phone conversations |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 05:00 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. 10 Gbps doesn't begin to do the job... |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 09:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
41. Yes, traffic analysis will lead to a relationship summary |
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twaddler01 (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
10. * has to have his armageddon |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
14. Why record ALL of the phone calls when you can simply.... |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 08:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Because no scanners are perfect... |
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Media_Lies_Daily (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 08:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. The NSA was working on keyword scanners 20 years ago... |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 10:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. They are using it to political advantage, snooping on the Dems. And |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
17. While I agree with the overall message ... |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 08:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Google Video? GMail? Images? |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 10:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Yes ... |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Fair point. |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 10:53 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. That I can accept ... |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
18. But...but....but...the phone companies gave up the lists WILLINGLY |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 03:36 AM Response to Reply #18 |
34. viola, I think you got something there |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
22. I thought the UK were doing it for us with Eschelon (sp?) |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
25. Since they also allege they have the right to detain terrorists |
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Wrinkle_In_Time (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-12-06 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
26. Don't be paranoid... |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
30. They've probably been recording all conversations for |
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Clyde39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
31. Surely the diehards cannot support data mining |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:08 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. no - I've had several tell me they don't care |
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passy (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
37. I found this article quite interesting. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
38. The logs are the index to the book they already have. |
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TexasLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
43. Their warrantless pursuit of private information |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-13-06 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
46. I thought I read somewhere once that digital phone lines and |
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