I heard ROE herself is attempting to appeal Roe v Wade

[rpgamerd00d]

I heard Roe said she lied in Roe v Wade and now, since she won, she plans to appeal her own case for overturning which I heard is possible so long as you won the case, which she did.

Anyone know for sure?

[FreedomAngel82]

1. I've heard that too

I've heard she now opposes. I didn't hear she claimed to lie. Can she do that? Anybody know?

[benburch]

2. She has no standing to appeal that.

Though she can file a totally new suit that would be heard on its own grounds, the fact that she was party to the original case is not supposed to help her in any way in new action.

[Canuckistanian]

12. Yep, she's just a mere citizen now

The Roe decision has withstood about 30 challenges and still stands.

The essential truth of the decision trancends one individual person.

[Charlie Brown]

15. The strangest thing about Roe is how it was initially embraced by Repubs

If you look at the makeup of the court at the time, Roe was a REPUBLICAN decision. Harry Blackmun and four of the concurring justices were appointed by Republicans, including conservative stalwarts like Burger and Lewis Powell(I think Marshall and William Douglas were the only ones who were appointed by Dems). Gerald Ford embraced the decision and all the "pro-choice" Republican organizations were founded in that era of the '70s.

The concept of 'Roe is consistent w/the Republican platforms of personal responsibility, individual rights and libertarianism, and even Laura Bush has gone on record saying she agrees w/Roe.

It wasn't until the Reagan era (of which Alito was a part) that the Reagan machine began tailoring with the platform to mine the Christian Right for votes. Republicans have betrayed their own legacy by going after 'Roe.

[Dulcinea]

3. Apparently she became a fundie.

She retracted all he previous stances when she found God. (Found God? Was he lost?)

[Cleita]

4. This is somewhat old. She became born again and

now regrets that she wanted an abortion. I thought she appealed and was turned down, but that was some time ago.

[swag]

5. Since she found monotheism, she has become a Randall Terry ally, true.

"plans to appeal her own case?"

That's a legally dubious proposition. Give me your source on that, please. I'd love to hear it.



Some information:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norma_mccorvey

[rpgamerd00d]

9. Wow, thanks, that link was perfect.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

19. Holy crap.

She didn't only become anti-choice. She joined OPERATION FUCKING RESCUE!

They're TERRORISTS!

[Patchuli]

6. I haven't heard that although she's tried before

and personally, I wish she'd sit down and shut the f up. She got her say so (as it suited her back in 1973). I don't think it's fair for her, just because she's changed sides of the fence, to tell other women that they should not get the rights that she did. SHUT UP 'ROE!' Only 15 minutes of fame, not 30!
Besides, who made her queen?!

[tenshi816]

18. People like that don't do "fair".

I know someone back home (Georgia) who has had two abortions that I know of, and who still vehemently opposes a woman's right to choose. Y'see, with people like that, the concept of "fairness" applies only to them, not to other women...

[alcibiades_mystery]

22. This is absolutely true

Some of these people don't consider their own abortions to be, y'know, abortions. You see, they had to have an abortion because they were going on to college. They weren't like these other women who "use abortion as birth control." Their own abortions don't count, then, see?

I've met plenty of this particular version of asshole. I also know that many of the young women I grew up with in NYC had had abortions by the time we were all 18. Many. Needless to say, if Roe is overtuned, it will revert to state law, and most of the blue states will keep abortion legal. But those folks in the red states are in for a shitstorm of monumental proportions if they try to make abortion illegal. The problem will not be all the pro-choice people - who will fight like hell anyway - but all those supposedly "pro-life" people who thought abortion would only be illegal for the "ghetto" mothers, and not - gasp - for their college-attending daughter - gasp gasp!!

[serryjw]

7. The RW has been using her for years

She was very poor and the RW (no suprise) has been using her as their poster child. This is the first time in her life she has fame and fortune. Disregard this..old news. ROE is NOT about her, its about CHOICE/PRIVACY

[txindy]

8. I do believe she is a fundie now

That's her motivating force: Fundie Fever.

[Lex]

10. If she won the case, she has no legal standing to appeal it.

Only other cases could overturn its precedent, but the case of Roe v. Wade itself cannot be re-opened.

[Charlie Brown]

11. Jane Roe has been assimilated into the Collective (fundies)

She no longer speaks for herself.

[wiley]

13. It's true

Constant harrassment and psychological terrorism have taken their toll on her. She can't overturn a case which is cited as so many precedents without rewriting decades of law.

[Nutmegger]

14. I've heard this too.

It was awhile back though. I also read that she became a "born-again" but I'm sure the harassment / threats are getting to her.

[Lexingtonian]

16. a sad story

Yes, she's made multiple appeals to the Supreme Court iirc but has not and will likely never get a hearing.

Appeals to the Supreme Court are not strictly about the plaintiff or defendant; they are arguments that either a law(s) is applied but inherently unconstitutional or, if constitutional, was wrongfully applied or wrongfully interpreted by the circuit court of appeals. The Supreme Court can only afford to hear a small fraction of the appeals asked for, so it selects the ones it regards as most important or relevant at this point in (social/political) time.

There are lots of cases they refuse to hear on the view that a proper verdict is probably unacceptable to too large a proportion of the population. Interpreting the "well regulated militia" clause of the Second Amendment is a famous one. Or the constitutionality of capital punishment. They also very rarely choose to hear verdicts where the stakes are monetary damages- that is why the corporations make Republicans put a lot of priority on stacking the circuit courts of appeals with pro-corporation judges, because that's where the multi-million and multi-billion dollar lawsuits tend to be decided.

[Bluebear]

17. Oh well, as long as the choice helped her when she needed it.

:eyes:

[Scout]

20. actually she never did have an abortion IIRC

not that I agree AT ALL with what she's doing now.

[Bridget Burke]

23. She had the baby & gave it up for adoption.

The case took too long.

Norma McCovey (her real name) now has a website. She was converted by the Religious Right & then became a Catholic. She recanted about choice some years ago & her suit was filed LAST January. (Don't click unless you are up to it.)

www.crossingoverministry.org/

She hasn't had an easy life. Now has "friends" & income; book her for a speech, buy her book or just send money.

[H2O Man]

21. Did democrats take $$$$?

Did Kerry kill innocent children?

I heard she is appealing to these questions, too.