Jon Kyl: "This is nuts..We are in war..collect intelligence on the enemy"

[sabra]

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_theswamp/2006/05/nsa_phone_recor.html

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“This is nuts,” said Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) of the public discussion of intelligence-gathring activities. “We are in war. And we’ve got to collect intelligence on the enemy. And you can’t tell the enemy in advance how you’re going to do it. And discussing all of this stuff in public leads to that.”

Then Kyl read parts of the USA Today article to make his point that it had raised a ruckus unnecessarily, making too much of the NSA phone data collection program. “Look at some of the stuff in this USA Today article here. Quote ‘The NSA’s domestic program as described by sources is far more expansive than what the White House acknowledged.’ ” Then he said “Yesss” with the same sarcasm someone might say “duhhh” to a person who seemed a little dense.

“The White House is not going to acknowledge all of the things that we’re doing against the enemies. No surprise there,” Kyl said.

:crazy:

[Kagemusha]

1. Enemy = you

So now you know. What are you going to do about it?

[ReadTomPaine]

25. Well said.

The target has always been us.

[Avalux]

2. Hey Kyl - how many terrorists have been caught by illegal wiretapping?

HUH????? Scumbag.

[KansDem]

10. This is THE question that needs to be asked of these ________

Bush didn't start spying on Americans after 9/11, he started after his inauguration.

And he knew all about Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda.

Which begs the question: "Why wasn't Bush spying on Osama?" If he was, then 9/11 wouldn't have happened. If he didn't, then "why not?"

Bush needs to be hammered with this question at every opportunity!!!

________ is for the most contemptible term one could think of. I know a few but didn't want to post them here for fear of offending someone.

[TexasLawyer]

17. And how easy is it to get FISA clearance to do wiretapping LEGALLY?

If they are not getting FISA warrants-- which are EASY to get and very seldom turned down-- then they are up to no good.

And what OTHER laws are they choosing to ignore??!!??

[acmavm]

3. Can't everyone who spouts this shit be called a collaborator?

And when the trials start, can they be tried for treason as well?

[marylanddem]

5. I am so angry today I can hardly see straight - you are so right.

[Supersedeas]

29. There's is plenty of anger to go round...now, we need to focus it on *

[DBoon]

4. So why are they collecting information on US citizens en masse

Have we all become the enemy, Mr. Kyl?

[bdamomma]

18. did he (Kyl) make that reference to us

we are not the enemies, you dimwit. and do they have to remind us that we are in a war, shit, a endless war. Damn these guys, I am upset too. Damn them. I think the US is like a pressure cooker and its ready to blow.

[DBoon]

30. I am not a dimwit, damnit!!

The reason millions of calls are being monitored is because in the eyes of the government a large portion of the citizenry is seen as "the enemy". it is no longer a few thousand "terrorist sympathizers" being unlawfully watched, but a huge portion of the population.

The rhetorical question was addressed to Mr. Kyle, with the answer implied.

Kyle would be the dimwit, not I - except I think Kyle knows perfectly well what is going on and why.

[The Magistrate]

6. It Is Probably Too Late For This Fool, Sir

But the facts indicate it is not intelligence of a foreign enemy being gathered, but rather intelligence of our own citizenry at large, so if there is actually any sense at all to be found in his words, it is this: The Republicsn regime is at war with the people of the country, and busy gathering intelligence on them....

[Kagemusha]

8. Incidentally, Magistrate...

"The Republican regime is at war with the people of the country, and busy gathering intelligence on them...." (typo in 2nd word fixed)

In light of this, if you really think about it... doesn't it all make *SENSE* now?...

I mean. All of it.

[seabeyond]

7. asshole republican if you were responsible in oversight, duhhhhh

we could trust the checks and balances a whole hell of a lot more. instead because of your allowing bush total executive power in all decisions, ddduuuuhhhhh, we dont trust you all.

tough shit.

why you go by the rules in honesty and integrity. this is the repercussion of all the dishonesty with republicans, duuuuh

[CJCRANE]

9. Isn't the enemy

a guy in a cave on the Afghanistan/Pakistan border who doesn't even use phones?

[neverforget]

16. No, it's anyone who disagrees with Warlord Bush in AmeriKa.

:grr:

[poverlay]

11. If anyone knows anyone in AZ, please, please, call them and

try to get them to vote for Pederson. I've had more Kyl than I can stand...

[smartvoter]

15. Everyone I know is voting against him. nt

[azmouse]

23. Kyl is a scumbag.

He votes about 98% the way Chimpy tells him too. It's hard to believe anyone but the most diehard Rep would support him.
Unfortunately most people don't follow politics the way we do, and will vote their party line instead of looking at the issues. I'm voting for Pederson but I think he has an uphill battle for the seat.

[rniel]

12. We are the enemies then it's clear n/m

n/m

[Norquist Nemesis]

13. Apparently, the American People are Public Enemy No. One!

Senator Kyl obviously believes the American people are stupid.

[bdamomma]

20. I am getting sick of them bashing the American people like this

like we are all stupid, excuse me Mr. Kyl your shit smell any better than ours.

[Old and In the Way]

14. Senator Kyl, and any Republican who wants to make this case-

If what you say is true, why don't you let key Democrats see the information? No one gets security classifications, so no one knows....except this 315 and falling administration and select members of the Republican Syndicate.

If you have nothing to hide and it's truely on the up and up, why not allow oversite by members of both parties?

Because we know what the most ioverarching priority of your party is....maintaining power so as to avoid the inevitable criminal prosecutions that will occur once you lose control of Congress.

[Hubert Flottz]

26. Karl Rove has higher security clearances than congress...

A political hit man!

Karl used his security clearances to out a CIA agent in a time of war and he was still able to see top secret information, even after the pres and the VP knew he had committed high crimes!

[saltpoint]

19. Jon Kyl has the wit of a manure spreader, and the same function.

When these GOP locksteps jump to the defense of an indefensible program, they sound worse than they usually sound, and they usually sound vacuous and idiotic.

In this case they also sound evil and deceptive.

Jim Pederson? I don't know much about him, but I hope somehow he kicks Kyl's ass from here to Hong Kong.

[sabra]

22. "manure spreader" LOL

[MadHound]

21. Umm Mr. Kyl

The White House is doing very little against the enemy. Heard anything about Osama lately? Has he been captured, seen, killed?

No, none of those things have been done because your president has been too damn busy invading the wrong country on false pretexts and making even more enemies we've got to worry about, all to steal a sovereign nation's oil, and he even fucked that up. So instead of bringing Osama to justice, or even us lower oil prices, he sets the NSA loose to spy on US citizens. Who's got their prioties wrong now Mr. Kyl? It certainly isn't the American people.

[magellan]

24. If this is so reasonable, Kyl, then why no warrants?

If this is necessary for the WOT and not out of constitutional bounds, surely the FISA court would agree and issue any warrant necessary. Bush** could even retroactively get a warrant if circumstances were moving too fast at the time one was needed.

Oh and BTW, Kyl, we're not interested in your attempts to turn the whistleblower into a criminal. FAUX is already trying to distract its shrinking audience with that spew. RW CYA diversion tactics are so transparent at this point that we can see the backdrop through your lying mouths.

[TheCowsCameHome]

27. Jon Kyl = Go Fck Yrslf. - Shrt and swt, jst lke yr nme.

[Zynx]

28. I'm so dumbfounded that I don't know quite how to respond to that.

By the logic that we can't tell the enemy how we are collecting intelligence, the government could do literally anything since apparently we don't have a right to know.