Tucker Carlson read what came over the wire Bush wiretaps

[lovuian]

ordinary Americans breaking now over the wires.......with Max Kellerman when he read it
but he wouldn't elaborate cause he didn't know it... Breakin News 11:45Pm

Bush got caught wiretapping normal Americans even after he denied!!!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

1. Is that a sentence? Hard for me to tell what you are saying...

[SeveneightyWhoa]

2. Yes, it is!

Ordinary Americans are breaking over the wires.

CAN'T YOU READ??!

[CoffeeCat]

10. I'm an ordinary American...

....and last week, I broke over the wires, for the first time.

My right ankle is bruised and I'm still seeing double, but I haven't felt this good in years!

:)

[Lin]

18. very best chuckle of my day...thanks! (eom)

[Coexist]

59. LOL! I'm glad I'm not the only one!

:rofl:

[King Coal]

62. Is this like the expression, "Broke over like a Red Label Over and Under"?

Or am I on the wrong track?

[lovuian]

7. Tucker Carlson just announced breaking news

Bush Administration discovered wiretapping ordinary Americans

[Robbien]

11. A secret source is blowing the whistle on NSA spying on

ordinary Americans. This is being reported in USAToday.

[CoffeeCat]

3. What's going on?

Please tell me that someone overheard Scottie Mac and Junior
discussing their plans to play "French Maid and Papa Smurf get lost
in the jungle."

I'm a simple girl with simple dreams.

[Sydnie]

12. Thank you TwoSparkles

You made my night with that one!

[CoffeeCat]

15. Sure thing, Sydnie...

Right back at ya...cause your quit wit has made my night....many a times!

:)

[WCGreen]

38. Smurfette is a slut.....

[Swamp Rat]

4. Huh?

:shrug:

[Pirate Smile]

6. It just got posted in LBN.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2276110

NSA has massive database of Americans' phone calls
The National Security Agency has been secretly collecting the phone call records of tens of millions of Americans, using data provided by AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth, people with direct knowledge of the arrangement told USA TODAY.

The NSA program reaches into homes and businesses across the nation by amassing information about the calls of ordinary Americans — most of whom aren't suspected of any crime. This program does not involve the NSA listening to or recording conversations. But the spy agency is using the data to analyze calling patterns in an effort to detect terrorist activity, sources said in separate interviews.

"It's the largest database ever assembled in the world," said one person, who, like the others who agreed to talk about the NSA's activities, declined to be identified by name or affiliation. The agency's goal is "to create a database of every call ever made" within the nation's borders, this person added.

For the customers of these companies, it means that the government has detailed records of calls they made — across town or across the country — to family members, co-workers, business contacts and others.

more........

[lovuian]

8. Thanks this Big

Go look at Latest Breaking News

[Swamp Rat]

14. thanks n/t

[buff2]

5. Do you mean it just came over the wire

that people are now not supporting the bu$h wire tapping? :shrug:

[lovuian]

9. Yes just came over the wires

:bounce:

[buff2]

22. Wow!

That's great news! Thanks for the info. :hi: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :toast: :toast: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Sydnie]

13. Not supporting him

that it has been reported that he IS tapping ordinary citizens.

[lovuian]

16. Creating a huge database on all calls in America

this is scary stuff every American has probably been wiretapped...

[oldtime dfl_er]

17. I'm damn sure they've listened in on me

and probably everyone I know.


http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/1094932

[lovuian]

19. And remember hayden is part of this and he is nominee

for the CIA... they have been wiretapping friends talking to friends Girlfriends talking to boyfriends

this is so YUK!!!

[Sydnie]

23. Girlfriends talking to girlfriends and boyfriends talking to boyfriends

Wonder how they have subdivided that database and how many times?

Could explain why "normal people" keep finding themselves on the "no fly" list, couldn't it?

[lovuian]

25. Oh thats a damn good point

:bounce:

[Old and In the Way]

20. It's the perfect political storm brewing.

I see the Bush Republican Titanic plowing up the growing tidal wave of voter anger. It's going to get real, real ugly.

He'll be at 25% popularity next week on his way to the bottom.

[lovuian]

24. Ya I agree this is worse than what Nixon ever did

nixon wiretapped his political enemies and Bush wiretapped Everybody

LMAO... if your gonna do something wrong do it completely wrong!!! OMG
:rofl:

[Media_Lies_Daily]

31. REAL conservatives...not NeoCons...will hit the roof on this one.

[peaches2003]

61. Not what I'm reading

Reading the wacko 'net sites this morning and they think it is fine. In fact they think it is a great idea and will help catch the bad guys, so what do we care who are only calling our relatives and friends. Bush is counting on the complacency and fear of the avg. Murikan to take over with his dictatorship. WILL THESE FOOLS EVER WAKE UP???

[lovuian]

21. from the article

As a result, domestic call records — those of calls that originate and terminate within U.S. borders — were believed to be private.

Sources, however, say that is not the case. With access to records of billions of domestic calls, the NSA has gained a secret window into the communications habits of millions of Americans. Customers' names, street addresses and other personal information are not being handed over as part of NSA's domestic program, the sources said. But the phone numbers the NSA collects can easily be cross-checked with other databases to obtain that information.

[insane_cratic_gal]

26. Maybe Goss is the leaker? LOL

Hey a gal can dream right.

[dweller]

27. crap! i'm on a dialup ...

and always on the internets.





dp

[seabeyond]

28. Project Echelon has been around since the 90's... why is this different

need to know

[lovuian]

29. They are creating a huge database with everybody's phones

in the United States... and using the phone companies to do it...

Hayden the new nominee for the CIA has been linked to NSA and wiretapping

So nixon was impeached for wiretapping his political enemies and Bush has wiretapped everybody

Ya got to say when he breaks a law he does it fully

[seabeyond]

34. but it is gathering info, are they listening on calls.

are they literally spying. i took spying out of my subtitle on a thread i had done with repugs.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

39. I'm guessing that they're using keyword scan technology....

...and if they're doing it indiscriminately INSIDE the U. S., that's spying for sure.

[seabeyond]

41. thank you

[blogslut]

49. Nixon was almost impeached

For these things:

# making false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States;

# withholding relevant and material evidence or information from lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States;

# approving, condoning, acquiescing in, and counselling witnesses with respect to the giving of false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States and false or misleading testimony in duly instituted judicial and congressional proceedings;

# interfering or endeavouring to interfere with the conduct of investigations by the Department of Justice of the United States, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the office of Watergate Special Prosecution Force, and Congressional Committees;

# approving, condoning, and acquiescing in, the surreptitious payment of substantial sums of money for the purpose of obtaining the silence or influencing the testimony of witnesses, potential witnesses or individuals who participated in such unlawful entry and other illegal activities;

# endeavouring to misuse the Central Intelligence Agency, an agency of the United States;

# disseminating information received from officers of the Department of Justice of the United States to subjects of investigations conducted by lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States, for the purpose of aiding and assisting such subjects in their attempts to avoid criminal liability;

# making or causing to be made false or misleading public statements for the purpose of deceiving the people of the United States into believing that a thorough and complete investigation had been conducted with respect to allegations of misconduct on the part of personnel of the executive branch of the United States and personnel of the Committee for the Re-election of the President, and that there was no involvement of such personnel in such misconduct: or

# endeavouring to cause prospective defendants, and individuals duly tried and convicted, to expect favoured treatment and consideration in return for their silence or false testimony, or rewarding individuals for their silence or false testimony.

http://watergate.info/impeachment/impeachment-articles.shtml

[Media_Lies_Daily]

35. Echelon taps all communications going in and going out of the....

...country, but was never designed to be used to to surveil all communications inside the U. S,

This may just be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

[seabeyond]

36. appreciate it

you guys are saints. you are going ot get me out of hot water

[GregD]

30. Does anyone have video of **

holding his fingers a couple inches apart and assuring everyone that it's a "limited program"?

[NightOwwl]

32. Data mining.

I don't know why this is considered breaking news. It was reported back in December of 2005. Do a google search on NSA data mining. You'll get plenty of results.

I'm glad it's getting more publicity, but it is not new news.

[lovuian]

37. Evidentally there is a leaker from NSA and that Bush

denied that ordinary Americans were wiretapped and if any small amount... its on a video

This is a HUGE DATABASE...

[NightOwwl]

45. Data mining always involves huge amounts of data.

I am very glad this is getting more publicity, but this is not surprising news to me.

[seabeyond]

46. exactly.... we knew it. bush denied it. media went with it

now it is back. like every other thing bush does. this is a consistant recycling

[lovuian]

47. It looks to me like QWest is a hero here ... they refused to

give NSA the data... even after repeatedly being badgered and yet ATT and BELL gave their data willingly

[ToeBot]

53. Naw, they just couldn't figure out How to fulfill the request

Incompetence is no excuse.

[NightOwwl]

54. What about MCI?

Are they a part of this also?

[this_side_up]

56. Verizon bought MCI effective Jan 06 n/t

[deadparrot]

33. So...is this what they'll be talking about tomorrow?

One can hope. :shrug:

[lovuian]

40. Probably and Abrahamhof where Bush lied that he didn't

know him... Another Lie...

I wonder if Fitzgerald was tapped??? even now???

[Media_Lies_Daily]

43. My guess is that Fitz has a team of people checking for taps....

...wherever they go.

I bet they're the best money can buy.

[dweller]

42. nope

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2276099


the news will be the 'issue' is over, dead, no 'there' there.

dp

[lovuian]

44. From the article Section 222 of the FCC in violation

Ma Bell's bedrock principle — protection of the customer — guided the company for decades, said Gene Kimmelman, senior public policy director of Consumers Union. "No court order, no customer information — period. That's how it was for decades," he said.

The concern for the customer was also based on law: Under Section 222 of the Communications Act, first passed in 1934, telephone companies are prohibited from giving out information regarding their customers' calling habits: whom a person calls, how often and what routes those calls take to reach their final destination. Inbound calls, as well as wireless calls, also are covered.

The financial penalties for violating Section 222, one of many privacy reinforcements that have been added to the law over the years, can be stiff. The Federal Communications Commission, the nation's top telecommunications regulatory agency, can levy fines of up to $130,000 per day per violation, with a cap of $1.325 million per violation. The FCC has no hard definition of "violation." In practice, that means a single "violation" could cover one customer or 1 million.

[troubleinwinter]

50. Oh, RIGHT.... this guy will sure be enforcing those regulations and fines:

FCC Chairman:
Kevin J. Martin

Chairman Martin was nominated by President George W. Bush to a Republican seat on the Commission, and was sworn in on July 3, 2001. He was designated chairman by President Bush on March 18, 2005.

Before joining the FCC, Martin was a Special Assistant to the President for Economic Policy. He served on the Bush-Cheney Transition Team and was Deputy General Counsel for the Bush campaign.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

48. Here's some interesting reading from May 8, 2006, Media Matters....

Media ignore Hayden's misleading 2002 congressional testimony, contradictory responses on NSA program
<http://mediamatters.org/items/200605080011>

QUOTE:

But none of these outlets mentioned Hayden's misleading testimony before Congress in 2002, in which he asserted that any citizen or legal resident of the United States targeted for surveillance by the National Security Agency (NSA) would be subject to the protection of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which requires the government to obtain warrants to conduct surveillance of "U.S. persons." Nor did they mention his shifting and contradictory defenses of the domestic surveillance program or his failure to answer questions regarding whether the program has been used to spy on U.S. residents with no ties to terrorism.

Oopsy.

[NightOwwl]

51. I wonder if this will jolt the Freepers...

out of their kool-aid slumber.

[Skittles]

52. nope

freepers are of the idiotic, simple mind-set that if you haven't done anything wrong you've got nothing to worry about (note that this only applies to a republican "president")

[Marr]

55. I'm happy to announce that the Brownshirts are being violated as well.

Who knew! They're against domestic spying after all! And all it took was for them to be personally spied on. How very noble.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1143161&mesg_id=1143161

[Skittles]

57. well, I will admit you are correct

yes, I should realize that only when it affects THEM to they give a shit

[ShortnFiery]

58. Time to Clean House: Vote out Incumbents for Democracy

http://voidnow.org/

Our Congress is CORRUPT! Individuals, whether Democrat or Republican, are investing and getting paid off by the Corporations and the War Machine Industry.

Let's vote these worthless PsOS out of office? Perhaps, if they run again, they may choose to support the average American instead of THEIR STOCK PORTFOLIOS. :grr: :puke:

[The Backlash Cometh]

60. Time for another Daily News video comparison.

We need a montage of Bush's denials in the face of the facts which are now being uncovered.

[peaches2003]

63. Lindsay Graham on Faux News

Sen. Lindsay Graham is upset with this data base and wants answers from NSA! Wants to know where the balance is to protect 'our rights'!!!

FoxNews anchor of course is defending NSA doing this. Where the hell are the Dems and why aren't they all over the cable shows NOW??? Are they taking a poll before showing any outrage?

[Notoverit]

64. As Pelosi said, Dems are DENIED access to the media

We heard from leahy today, Kerry too. But not on teevee - that's for GOP-ers only.
After Snow is done, teevee will only be for bushbots.