12 Species of Flies Get Federal Protection

[KBlagburn]

Ok. I think this is going a little to far.




By TARA GODVIN, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 44 minutes ago

HONOLULU - Twelve species of rare flies known for their elaborate courtship displays and found only in the Hawaiian Islands are now protected under the Endangered Species Act.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060510/ap_on_sc/endangered_flies;_ylt=AuDf6jWCOWoLDqfXwdB42xas0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MzV0MTdmBHNlYwM3NTM-

[alittlelark]

1. I believe this snip explains it

<Researchers have also found antibiotic resistant bacteria on some Hawaiian flies, including some of the newly protected species, that may help scientists find new ways to combat diseases such as bird flu and even cancer, he said.>

If they go extinct we will have lost a good research opportunity.

[sweetheart]

2. Probably those flies that come unzipped too easily

Gosssh, what about that!

[darkmaestro019]

3. Why is it going too far?

Why are we more important than other species?

Or just these--because they are small, buzzy, and we don't eat them?

What do you think would happen if we had corpses lying around without maggots to devour them? I am not trying to be gross, but that which is still here is usually still here for a reason.

I'm not trying to pull your specific chain, I mean, IN GENERAL, in every case--

why are we more important than other species?

Darwinian "superiority" seems no longer an advantage when we use that to annihilate the ecosystem. We are not able to know what niche these creatures employ--and if we did, how to decide what niche is important and what is not--and what gives us the right to do so?

Genocide is genocide. Period. Plant, animal, hominid or not. Why is Denis Leary right when he says we only want to save the cute animals?

Psychoactive or not, "useful" or not. Killing--or ruling not-sacred-and-killable-ANY species, is genocide. Period.

What if, say, our mitochondria decided to ATTACK our white blood cells? Why can we not see it that way? We are all tiny anatomical bits of one great big lifeform--I am going beyond Gaia-ism here and proposing that the UNIVERSE is a lifeform, and that when we use our bit of that lifeform to pointlessly attack other bits---

we ARE A CANCER.

I can understand disregard or outright hostility to lifeforms that try to kill us--that IS evolution--but to murder ALL for our own ease?

God(ess)s, to murder ANY--for our own EASE? Not life, not safety, not continuity, not to feed our children--for CONVENIENCE?

Where should that stop?

And no, I'm no vegan. I believe in evolution and the food chain, but hunger versus convenience versus FOREVER.......

Running down a kill to use or eat every part is one thing--LIFE IS LIFE, plant or animal or "other", too--everything eats, and life can only eat life. You vegans can sit down and shut up, though I love what you are trying to do--I am more angry about PLANTS being attacked and killed sometimes than humans--do they not have to try, struggle, fight, to live? And they are such easy lazy prey, without the ability to run....

Ending things to eat or save ourselves is the pattern of the universe. Killing things that ANNOY us with no fucking clue what they might be, FOR, is, the terrifying toddlerhood that I see constantly in humanity.

Why is it going too far to preserve a unique and possibly LITERALLY in all of spacetime, a creature that has never been seen before and never might again? Would you think the flies were being trivial if they happened to have landed on top and wanted to preserve the humans and their cute little courtship dances?

If these creatures had no evolutionary use or ecosystem function I don't think they'd be here. Whatever God(s) is/are--or are not, I don't think we're them and I don't think we are qualified to fuck with the design.

Peace. Sorry to ramble, but the love and care I am currently lavishing on a poor innocent rose that a photographer STRIPPED down to no thorns and two leaves--to make pretty pictures for an hour--with hormones, food, care and............I cannot see a difference. No, I cannot. We cannot perceive what animals and plants experience, so we can rule out that they HAVE a valid experience?

Megalomania. Sociopathy. As a race, those are NOT admirable traits. What will we eat when we eat everything else?

HINT: Each other.

EDIT: Yet again. OP, I am not trying to attack you-- I promise--but I wonder, what thought process makes one decide that this form of...solipsism, is correct. That's what it looks like to me, frankly. Have you read When Elephants Weep? I ask you to, respectfully, because it broke my heart and I have been grateful ever since that a book could hurt me like that, because sometimes you MUST hurt to heal. It is not merely about elephants--there are animals like spiders covered that we'd probably lump under "bugs" like these flies........