To: spectre
Lou Dobbs is a self proclaimed LIFE long Republican, contrary to the smear tactics that say he is otherwise.
SMEAR tactics? Like this one?
To: Arizona Carolyn
Lou Dobbs is a Bush hating Marxist tool. Be careful who you go to bed with. You're being used.
261 posted on 05/09/2006 4:57:51 PM CDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
If it is phony...why are minutemen spokesmen all over local radio stations in every market confirming it to be true. They are not saying much about the Border Patrol either...they are expressly saying HOMELAND SECURITY IS INVOLVED. Are they making it up? If this is a true story...lame duck ain't the half of it. So far I have seen nothing to confirm to me that Lenin had anything to do with this story. Or Karl Marx for that matter.
JEDI.
430 posted on 05/09/2006 5:32:22 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: FreedomFarmer; Jim Robinson
Thanks, we received your abuse report regarding #178.
Regarding #178
This (edited for language) idiot has flip-flopped on his boarder stance 3 times this week. Put his ass in time-out for a while.
Unfortunately, every time we hit the suspend button we received an error message.
Sorry about that.
454 posted on 05/09/2006 5:58:25 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Jim Robinson; americafirst; sinkspur; Dane; holdonnow; Jeff Head; Brian Allen; nicmarlo; dirtboy; ..
Jim accept my expressed admiration for you and John and your achievements. I want to see this forum grow into something bigger. However we are being held back by a disruptive force that is at work here.
Jim to hear sinkspur talk, threatening to get people banned and always dropping your name one would think that you take work direction from him.
Both Dane and Sinkspur make one personal attack after another, they hi-jack threads and try to intimidate or provoke posters. This tactic often leads to a thread being pulled. We can't tell, because you will not show aliases, but it also appears they use more than one screen name.
Their obvious goal is to prevent meaningful results from being achieved.
They have been doing it since before Bush came into office. Even under Clinton they were pro government disruptor's.
When someone makes a personal attack or disrupts a thread, anyone should be able to hit the abuse button and bar them from that thread, if the moderator agrees it was a personal attack or a disruption..
Are their privileged characters or not?
THIS WEB SITE can and should be relevant. Currently less than 4500 people on this site indicated they will stick by the GOP if they don't act to control the border.
I predict. This site is in jeopardy of becoming irrelevant. Your answer will tell us which way it is going to go.
If you doubt this, you should run a poll on it.
Looking forward to using the system and getting some good work done.
:)Easy Does IT:)
466 posted on 05/09/2006 6:28:49 PM PDT by eazdzit (Register Independent CROSS OVER IN THE PRIMARIES!!! VOTE AGAINST CFR, NWO, GLOBALIST RepuboCrats !!)
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To: RHINO369
Right. But Jim Robinson in post #178 is calling this a phoney report. I am not sure anymore what is real in this. Hope Robinson provides some explanation or link.
587 posted on 05/09/2006 10:44:50 PM PDT by Hostage
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To: CWOJackson
Oh yes it is changing our subject which is your wanting to "go hard on them".
That reveals alot about what you're all about. Your initial info to me was appreciated but your followup attitude only serves to make the problem worse in my opinion.
Your initial info was a cut and paste about border control operations policy and procedure. The fact is now there are no facts, just allegations. We have yet to hear from the sources.
For all we know a low level border control official may have given a detainees attorney info on MM locations in response to an abuse complaint by an illegal border crosser.
I'm sorry but in a court of law your argument would be tossed unless you have facts, evidence and ultimately proof to substantiate that Congressman Tancredo was duped.
But more importantly in this latter possibility is who would dupe him and why?
Aren't you concerned about that?
Are you wanting the "go hard on them" as some sort of policy to disrupt things further? You need not respond, it's pretty obvious the mustard is not being cut here. Go ahead and try to suprise otherwise.
You do not know, I do not know, we do not know and Mr. Jim Robinson does not know because he has not backed up his statement. And neither have you. It's very concerning that without backup, you would accuse others of speculating alternative views.
One thing we do know is there is a lack of leadership on the serious issues of the border.
603 posted on 05/10/2006 12:23:32 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: Hostage
You might not think a U.S. Congressman spouting unsubstantiated BS is no big deal, I think it's highly irresponsible and should receive due action.
As for your court of law arguments...LOL, you seem to forget that "facts" are important...and Tancredo demonstrated none whatsoever.
604 posted on 05/10/2006 12:26:49 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Once again you are talking without backup. If I acted as an investigator I would want all the witnesses and all the testimony prepared for resolution.
Tell us which facts you know.
But maybe I have "gone too hard on you". Do you like it? Does it make you feel good? Are you a better human being for it?
The fact is I chose to "go hard on you" to show you what your own thoughts can produce. Are we unified? Do we agree on anything?
Yes this policy of "going hard on folks" is a real winner.
So you think Tancredo is the culprit here. How about answering the question put to you before. If Tancredo is speaking from a false set of facts, who put those facts before him? Are you concerned about that? Or are you just content to "go hard on him"?.
605 posted on 05/10/2006 12:37:05 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: Hostage
No, that would be Tancredo who talked without backup...you know, without all those things you would want as an investigator. As for being a culprit, no one forced Tancredo to make these public statements...it's his responsibility to check the facts.
606 posted on 05/10/2006 12:40:38 AM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
And how do you know that he didn't check facts?
I'll repeat the request:
Why don't you tell the thread the facts that you know or you think you know?
607 posted on 05/10/2006 12:43:22 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: CWOJackson
I have viewed all the replies of Mr. Jim Robinson and of you. No backup has been given.
If you don't want to state the facts you think you have, then that is your choice. It's entirely expected and not at all taken the wrong way.
The consular relations is nice background information but it does not disprove Congressman Tancredo's report.
His report ***may*** indeed be based on a false set of facts.
We do not know, do we?
Goodnight and please be nice in the future to your fellow conservatives however confused and misled they may be.
613 posted on 05/10/2006 12:54:30 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: CWOJackson
POST #178
To: Idisarthur
Attention:
Those of you who are calling for revolution, secession, violence, impeachment, etc, will no longer be posting on FR. Sheesh, it's a phony report (pure Marxist propaganda), but it sure is exposing a lot of hothead idiot trolls.
178 posted on 05/09/2006 2:10:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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THE REPLIES:
#275,#281,#284,#352,#413,#430,#454.
YOUR POSTS ON THIS THREAD:
#580,#582,#585,#591
THE REPLIES TO YOUR POSTS ON THIS THREAD:
#581,#583
AND YOUR FIRST POST TO ME:
#570
AND THE REPLIES:
#572,#594
AND LASTLY ALL THE SUBSEQUENT POSTS BETWEEN YOU AND I THAT REVEAL NO FACTS TO DISCREDIT THE TANCREDO REPORT.
In not any of these posts are there any facts that discredit Tancredo's report. I am not defending him but I want to see the facts.
As far as your remark that I haven't been looking, well anyone can see that I have searched. What makes you think I haven't been searching?
And then you want to add that I am not interested in the truth? Let's see I have asked for your help several times, I have searched the entire thread and I can't get any facts that shed light on the truth that you say is right here in this thread. So I am not interested in the truth? The facts are here in this thread somewhere because you say they are?
Too bad these threads don't have a little rating scale by the posters. If it existed, where do you think yours would rank?
617 posted on 05/10/2006 1:32:53 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: Jim Robinson
Sheesh, it's a phony report (pure Marxist propaganda), but it sure is exposing a lot of hothead idiot trolls.
Hotheads, maybe...but trolls? C'mon! Tancredo? Malkin? Glenn Reynolds? Hinderacker? The National Review?
The CPB was caught contradicting itself, and its statement claiming 'inaccuracy' was carefully parsed, check this out...
Is the U.S. Giving Mexico Intelligence about Americans?
-- And will the immigration controversy boil over as a result?
By Andrew C. McCarthy, National Review Online, May 10, 2006
Link at:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MWY0NzE4MGY1MGViMWNjNTdlYTcxYjZlMWFiOGYwYjQ=