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1956 Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:15 PM
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Please Hilary...
You are still a little too green or wet behind the ears to be prez. Get more senator experience. That's # 1. # 2. Although it would be fabulous to have a woman for prez, it's just not you, not now!...possibly not ever. I'm sorry, I just can't get that excited about you. Your hubby was good, maybe great, but I still find it odd that he was hanging out with Bush Sr. like he did even if it was for a good cause. I'm sorry, those guys are evil! It makes me think something else is going on, and I really don't think it's good!

Now Ms. Boxer, that's another story!!!
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:17 PM
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1. No woman will ever be elected during a war. Period. We need Wes Clark!
I say that even tho I am a woman, a supporter of equal rights, and a believer that a woman president would do this country some good.

But let's be realistic, if you want any male votes at all - it just simply can not be a time of WAR.

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1956 Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:19 PM
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3. I hope your right!
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:59 PM
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9. What war?
did congress finally declare war?
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 05:04 PM
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10. Clark and Landrieu in '08......
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 05:29 PM
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13. I disagree...
Though I do not like Hilary's views on a great majority of issues and I do not think she should win, I don't think it's impossible for a woman to win an election.

Here's why...

Demographically speaking, there's more women than men in America. This according to the 2004 election. (In thousands)

Total Men over 18: 103,812
Total that are Citizens: 94,147
Total Registered: 66,406
Total Voted: 58,455 or 56.3%


Total Women over 18: 111,882
Total that are Citizens: 102,858
Total Registered: 75,663
Total Voted: 67,281 or 60.1%
Table 4a.
http://www.census.gov/population/www/socdemo/voting/cps2004.html

If women ever got together and decided to take over the country, by God, they have the votes. (But we have Diebold so, We'd win)

Also the country is more than ready for a complete change of leadership. They're tired of choosing between Republican crooks and Democrat Crooks. A woman running would energize the debate. As long as she wasn't shrill and pretending to have a penis tucked in between her legs, I think a woman would do fine.

Women don't need to be physically tough to inspire confidence. Look at Thatcher, that mean ole curmudgeon would've ripped the heads off puppies if it wasn't illegal. Look at Anne Bancroft in GI Jane, that bitch was scary. (Mrs. Bancroft is not a bitch to my knowledge but she sure as hell can play one. She could be our Reagan) Hell, look at Barbara Boxer. That spitfire is ballsalicious. If she wanted to run, I'd sure as hell vote for her. Slap a couple of trillion dollars worth of pure American whupass on her back and see how intimidating she can be. Only she'd be honest, sincere and competent. We can't have that.

I'm not a woman though I've brushed up against one a time or two. Women can be just as tough looking as a man in a time of war so I see no reason not to run a woman.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:07 PM
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16. I agree with what you've said - but the main point is 'during war'. US men
will never elect the first woman president if there is a war situation. Doesn't matter what enlightened people think, they don't appear to be the majority these days anyway.

Dems are wasting time, money and effort on Ms Clinton as long as the nation is 'at war', which may be yet another reason the neo-cons have set us up for a never-ending war on terror.

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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 02:12 AM
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17. You don't believe Bush engineered 9/11 to keep Hilary...
out of the White House, do you? Please, they engineered 9/11 so they could step on our necks and make us relish it. Hilary is a politician and a damn mediocre one at that. She has every right to run for the Presidency even if no one wants her to.

But you're wrong about Americans not supporting a woman during a time of war. The Sheeple will bleat the same tune whether happy or mad but it's the "enlightened" who lead them to water. A Republican cannot attack a woman on National Security issues without being branded as sexist. We'd make sure of that. We'd also trot out a host of Democratic Iraqi War Veterans who support the Candidate and of course, they'd be mostly female. We'd seek the support of Generals and military thinkers who'd stand behind the Candidate. If a woman is chosen by the party to carry the standard of the Democratic Party, then she could be chosen by the country as well. Keep in mind, she has to go through a primary first. If she beats out the other Democratic men, then she can also beat a Republican man in National Security issues. (My God, they tried to sell our ports to Dubai. A child would seem better suited to safeguard our National Security after this crew.)
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 08:27 AM
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19. No. But I think the never-ending war on terror keeps her
and any other woman out of the running for Prez.

I'm not arguing about her right to run, or that women could elect her, or that a woman could do the job.

I'm just saying I don't think Red America would stand for a woman Commander In Chief during this trumped up war on terror. And if you think they wouldn't attack her on that concept you're dreaming. My God, they attacked Kerry's purple heart and service record!

Anyway. It's just my opinion. No matter what she does to ingratiate herself to the Bush Family, to Murdoch, to the flag wavers... Clinton haters will hate the Ms. just as much and now is not the time to risk it.

Wes Clark would be a MUCH BETTER CHOICE, easy for the military Repubs to support. And so far, he seems a lot more dependable that Ms. C.

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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:19 PM
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2. First off, she is not running.
Second, talk about not getting excited, everytime I see that avatar of Kerry, I just want to :puke:
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1956 Donating Member (314 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:22 PM
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4. Well, I hope she's not running
And secondly, I will never apologize that I like Kerry! I'm sure he doesn't have a chance of getting the dem ticket, but that doesn't mean he isn't a worthy senator, who is doing a LOT by the way. So, take a chill pill and take some ginger tea!!
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:48 PM
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5. Senator Kerry gave a strong speech this afternoon on the Senate floor.
He would have been a wonderful President. I wish he could have run in the years near when he spoke at the Democratic Convention when he was protesting the Viet Nam War. When I heard him I said that man should be our President.

Some people are too young to know what Kerry was about which is very sad.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:02 PM
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15. Then my sig should make you projectile vomit
Technically speaking, you're right. None of them are running. But you can tell who's thinking about it. Kerry, Clinton, Feingold, Bayh, etc. She'd DEFINITELY thinking about it. She's not running to the middle for nothing.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-11-06 05:20 AM
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18. She has never left the middle!
But I sure a hope hell that Big Clarkie runs!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:50 PM
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6. Hillary for president is like nuking Iran.
It's all over the news, but I can't believe people are taking it seriously.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:52 PM
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7. Clintons are great Republicans
A brilliant mind has sold out again. Telling...

Well I'm done with DINO's. I'll vote Republican to clean my party out if I have to.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:57 PM
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8. Was America better under Clinton or the Republicans?
The Clinton seems like a golden age.
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Lusted4 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 05:09 PM
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11. The Clinton's lost me with N.A.F.T.A.
Their cooperate sellouts.
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Lusted4 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 05:11 PM
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12. Gore/Bonior 2008 n/t
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 05:56 PM
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14. If Hillary becomes a candidate, it will be because Republicans
have put her there. As far as my husband and I are concerned, these last two stunts cost her any hope of votes from this family--even if she does become the nominal Dem candidate. If I want an R, I'll vote for an R.
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