Is Bush Conservative?

[Accountability_NOW]

I'm thinking one way to get through to the backwash is to explain to them that Bush is not really a conservative.

Since when is it conservative to waste billions of dollars on war? Since when is it conservative to write bills full of pork while lifting the debt limit? Is it conservative to for the pentagon to lose trillions of dollars while everyone looks the other way? Is it conservative to borrow so much money that our grandchildren will be in debt for our immoral actions? Is it conservative to tax people twice, first their taxes and then social security because they are spending all of that money as well.

These people are not conservatives. They are greedy selfish cruel idiots!

And if that doesn't work, have you all heard this song?
Taking my country back
http://www.radio4all.net/pub/files/[e-mail]/1124-1-20060304-takinmycountryback.mp3
It is so good and it sounds like Merle Haggard.

Maybe the backwash isn't all bad....they are just a little cloudy? Maybe a little lesson in what it means to be conservative might help them out?




http://benfrank.net/blog/f/dc-march.pdf

[azurnoir]

1. No he's not

but they are finally waking up to that.

[Erika]

2. What did we get for our money?

You did not address that.

[KingFlorez]

3. No, not conservative

He's some far gone extreme rightist with no common sense

[FrenchieCat]

4. No,

He is an asshole.

[SeattleGirl]

5. Not only no, but hell no!

To borrow the words of a car commercial, and twist them a bit, Bush is not your father's Republican!

[azurnoir]

13. Literally in my case

my father was a life long member of the RNC and left because of * reasons: meddeling in family arguements(Shaivo)(sp), and they have no honor they're only about winning

[babylonsister]

6. Holy mackeral-a DU virgin?! I kid! Is the blivet a conservative?

I don't really think so. His higher power is the bank, and I'll just bet he can't wait to lose the job he has with as little damage as he can manage. Sadly, he's caused lots of damage that might manage to ruin the rest of his life, and perhaps ours. But heh! Welcome to DU! :toast:

[Protagoras]

7. No and that's been clear to most real conservatives for a long time

Read the American Conservative articles if you can stomach that side of the fence. You'll quickly see that while Conservatives are NOT Liberals, they are also nothing like the neocon pigs that currently infest the WH.

I don't accept most conservative views but I can at least understand the humanity of the people who hold much of those views. I don't think there is much humanity at all in the authoritarian corporatist straussian nightmare that is Neoconservativism.

The real problem is that we've become so polarized in this society that the true conservatives BLINDLY follow the neocons because they call themselves Republicans, regardless of the truth. While we find that on our side with Democratic Corporatists, we do seem far more critical and discerning as a whole...though we could still improve a lot.

[rucky]

8. "The backwash" consists of these types of people:

1) Religious zealots who think Bush is leading them to the Rapture.

2) Racists who want to kill all the Arabs

3) Rich people who don't give a shit about anything but their own pocketbooks.

4) People who really do want facism in America to root out the weak and control the "undesireables".

I think I covered them all. That's about 1/3 of the voting population. Conservatives they ain't.

I also hate to break it to some folks here, but bush lost a few supporters because of his guest worker proposal. A good part of his base wants illegal immigrants to be treated worse than dogs.

I wouldn't waste another second trying to get through to these people.

[Erika]

11. He also doesn't respect women

He's done more harm to them than any U.S. president. His approach is the Taliban approach. He is a real ass.

[rucky]

12. women fall into the "control the undesirables" category. n/t

[Kutjara]

9. He's definitely a Conservative.

If you define 'Conservative' to mean someone who wishes to return society to some prior form, an imagined golden age when everything was rosy. then Bush fits this precisely. While other conservatives hanker for the carfree days of the '50s or the moral rectitude of the Victorians, Georgie Boy is the most conservative of all.

He wants to return us all to the fucking Stone Age.

You can't get more conservative than that.

[greyl]

10. In some ways.

Let's see...
He's conservative about reading.
He's conservative about pursuing diplomatic solutions.
He's conservative about critical thinking.
He dresses conservatively.
His hairstyle is the same conservative "Lego® hair" that most conservatives sport.

Otherwise, everything he does is flavored with a very liberal dose of bullshit.

[magellan]

14. His base already accuse of him of being too liberal

The fact is he's a Neocon...and if Republicans would just get the difference through their thick skulls and familiarize themselves with the true definition of a neoconservative, all would become crystal clear to them.

And we wouldn't have this problem called Bush**.

[leftofthedial]

15. "but he's more conservative than John Kerry"

"I'll vote for the one who prays."

[Broken_Hero]

16. Nope, he isn't, he is a corporate butt kisser n/t

[Ringo84]

17. Re:

Hmm.... I'd say no. Conservatives supposedly believe in limited government, while Bush has been doing everything he can to increase the federal government's ability to spy on its citizens. Conservatives also supposedly believe in accountability, while Bush has received very little accountability for the lies and mulligans he's pulled in office.

But if all that's true, how do we explain the conservatives that still support him? 9/11 did change everything.... conservatives who once railed against "nanny government" don't seem to mind spying on American citizens.
Ringo

[Up2Late]

18. No, Next question.

He's a Fascist and possibly the Anti-Christ, except the anti-christ wouldn't be this stupid.:evilfrown:

[gordontron]

19. nope nt

[Swamp Rat]

20. No, he's a Fascist

[Scairp]

22. That's close

I call him and his cadre "fascist lite", because they certainly aren't conservative in the usual sense, and they haven't quite become dicators...yet. I have no clue why true conservatives continue to tow the party line and back them up. Do they really believe that Democrats, liberals or even moderates are worse than this band of thugs? Unbelievable.

[Rainscents]

21. I don't know what the hell he is anymore accept one thing I do know...

He is FUCKING INSANE!!!

[jerry611]

23. I dont know what the hell he is

He doesn't seem to fit anywhere on the political spectrum...

Personally, i don't believe he's running anything at all. Bush's IQ is around 90. And the reality is that he truely isn't all that bright. There are people behind the scenes that are making the decisions. Those people are the smart ones you don't want to underestimate. And those people are pro-war/pro-corporate imperialists.
That's why impeaching Bush is not going to solve anything at all. Bush is the puppet. You need to get to the people making the decisions behind the scenes. And it starts with Cheney and Rumsfeld.

Don't you find it odd that Rumsfeld still has a job? I mean if you are president, and the war you are fighting is not going well, who are you going to fire first? Your press secretary? Your cheif of staff? There is no common sense in that administration.

[BlueStater]

24. Democrat. Republican. It makes no difference

He's a tyrant and a war criminal and he deserves to be punished big time.

[degreesofgray]

25. He's a conservative

I've heard quite a few conservatives say that * isn't one of them, that he's not really a conservative, to which I say, sorry, he's yours, you get to keep him. They loved him when he slashed taxes, when he read My Pet Goat, and when he invaded Iraq for no damn good reason, but now that it's obvious to so many he's an asshole bent on destroying the country, they can't suddenly disown him.

[B Calm]

26. I can't remember the last time the republicans were conservative.

They say one thing and do another! Up is down, down is up, left is right, right is left... nothing changes with them

[Moderator]

27. locking

The author is no longer with us.