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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:14 AM
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Cry Havoc! And let slip the Dogs of War!
Edited on Wed May-10-06 12:24 AM by mikelewis
Less than 24 hours after one of Iran's leading dissidents and authors escaped to a neighboring state, the former chairman of the Pentagon's Defense Policy Board, Richard Perle, interrupted his trip to central Asia to meet with him in a cramped hotel room.


Well, folks. Here we go again.

You are traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land of imagination. Next stop, IRAN!


Let your wits be dulled and allow fear its rule. Close your eyes and envision a giant mushroom-shaped cloud rising like a Phoenix from the ashes of a Demon’s dream.

Here we go again, the insidious fear is coming again. Fueled by vipers; coaxed along like a recalcitrant child, the same ol’ same ol’ has a new name. FEAR, thy name is IRAN!

Dark and terrible are these demon worshippers of Iran; haters of democracy, seekers of the Devil's own fury. They hate us for our Freedom! They will destroy us, if we don’t destroy them first. They will kill every one of us if we leave them in power. FEAR! FEAR! FEAR!

Slippery and vile; they seek to drink the blood of our children. They seek to enslave America with their evil designs and twisted religion. They seek out Murder, Chaos, Pain, Death, Darkness, Famine and Evil and pray to their dark God to deliver these riders of the Apocalypse to the doorstep of every American. FEAR IRAN!

The meeting between Mr. Perle and Amir Abbas Fakhravar on April 29, in a location both men have asked not appear in print, may end up being as important as the first contacts between Mr. Perle and the ex-Soviet dissident Natan Sharansky in the 1980s.


Wait, isn’t Perle known as the “Prince of Darkness”? I thought Perle was the one who helped craft the lies that led us to Iraq. Wasn’t Chalabi, Perle’s guy? Mustn’t believe Perle but…

Mr.Fakhravar yesterday was effusive in his praise of Mr. Perle, who has been a target of anti-war critics who have dubbed him the "prince of darkness" for his part in conceiving the intellectual foundations of the Iraq war. The Iranian author does not share this view. "In my eyes I saw the prince of light, not the prince of darkness," Mr. Fakhravar said. "I could see in his eyes he is worried for our people as well as the American people and this is very important and this is very special. Of course, Mr. Perle has the interest of the American people at heart. And I have the interest of the Iranian people at heart. But there is a common goal and interest."


FEAR breeds DOUBT. Maybe we had him all wrong, maybe Perle isn’t the “Prince of Darkness” after all. Maybe he is the “Prince of Light”? I can’t remember; my mind is too tired. There is too much to know. I’m working too hard to keep America strong, the shopping and the work, the work and the shopping has drained me. Yes, it must be so. Perle is our friend; he is an American after all.

His arrival in Washington comes as President Ahmadinejad offered what he said yesterday was a "diplomatic opening" for direct talks with America. Mr. Fakhravar said it would be a mistake to take this offer seriously."This is the same method as the North Koreans used. This is to stretch the time for them," he said.


Ahhh, there it is. FEAR. Make me FEAR you and we will make you FEAR us. We will exact a pound of FLESH from these terrible demons in exchange for the ounce of FEAR they inspired on us. FEAR NO MORE!

"We are not pro-war. But we do believe in getting rid of this rotten government and to keep the costs to the people as low as possible. This is to keep the casualties and cost controls," he said. But he also cautioned, "The Islamic Republic of Iran is going in the direction that heads straight on to war with America."


CRY HAVOC! AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WAR!



To WAR, and have at it. Onward Christian Soldiers! We march into HELL as lambs but shall rise as LIONS! Seeking only PEACE and LIBERTY, we will bring WAR and OCCUPATION as was commanded by our Lord and Saviour. The Prince of Light and the Prince of PEACE march to war, once more.

We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition:
And gentlemen in England now a-bed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day.


To war… Once more… And may God have mercy on our souls.

http://www.nysun.com/article/32367?page_no=1
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:31 AM
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1. Kick and #5! n/t
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:55 AM
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2. The Henry V quote isn't really germane to the point you're trying to make.
Edited on Wed May-10-06 01:55 AM by dave123williams
....the Crispan's day quote, I mean.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 06:02 AM
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5. Germane is like a thousand miles of away from England.
I don't think they want to go to war with us against Iran but England will. They'll trot out Tony "the Tiger" and he'll sell that bad mojo with his silky tongue.

(FYI, Henry was King of England and not Germane.)
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:59 PM
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8. Um....
Germane (a.) appropriate or fitting; relevant.
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:56 PM
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10. ...
I know... I was just messing with you.

I agree that it didn't really fit the piece as well as I'd like but fortunately, I hold my self to a much lower standard.

I was going to end it with this poem but this really didn't fit at all. At 2:00 in the morning my creativity is sorely lacking.

Pardon the banality of my reply and here's the poem I originally intended to work in.



I release you, my beautiful and terrible
fear. I release you. You were my beloved
and hated twin, but now, I don't know you
as myself. I release you with all the
pain I would know at the death of
my children.

You are not my blood anymore.

I give you back to the white soldiers
who burned down my home, beheaded my children,
raped and sodomized my brothers and sisters.
I give you back to those who stole the
food from our plates when we were starving.

I release you, fear, because you hold
these scenes in front of me and I was born
with eyes that can never close.

I release you
I release you
I release you
I release you

I am not afraid to be angry.
I am not afraid to rejoice.
I am not afraid to be black.
I am not afraid to be white.
I am not afraid to be hungry.
I am not afraid to be full.
I am not afraid to be hated.
I am not afraid to be loved,

to be loved, to be loved, fear.

Oh, you have choked me, but I gave you the leash.
You have gutted me but I gave you the knife.
You have devoured me, but I laid myself across the fire.

I take myself back, fear.
You are not my shadow any longer.
I won't take you in my hands.
You can't live in my eye, my ears, my voice
my belly, or in my heart my heart
my heart my heart
But come here, fear
I am alive and you are so afraid
of dying.
http://www.joyharjo.com/lyrics/fear2.html
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 03:38 AM
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3. on a related matter, isn't there a "Shah-in-waiting" somewhere . . .
out there? . . . the son of the deposed Shah, I believe? . . .

is he politically active? . . .

and what's his relationship with BushCo? . . .

anyone? . . .
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 04:08 AM
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4. excuse me, i have to sneeze:
*ahmed chalabi*

It's "curveball" all over again.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:01 AM
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6. My advice to Amir Abbas Fakhravar
Play along for a while. Tell Perle some bullshit.

Then, take the money and RUN, if you love your country.

And don't ever look back.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:39 AM
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7. Kicked and recommended.
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.
Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe;
Forward into battle see His banners go!

Refrain

Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.

At the sign of triumph Satan’s host doth flee;
On then, Christian soldiers, on to victory!
Hell’s foundations quiver at the shout of praise;
Brothers lift your voices, loud your anthems raise.

Refrain

Like a mighty army moves the church of God;
Brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod.
We are not divided, all one body we,
One in hope and doctrine, one in charity.

Refrain

What the saints established that I hold for true.
What the saints believèd, that I believe too.
Long as earth endureth, men the faith will hold,
Kingdoms, nations, empires, in destruction rolled.

Refrain

Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane,
But the church of Jesus constant will remain.
Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail;
We have Christ’s own promise, and that cannot fail.

Refrain

Onward then, ye people, join our happy throng,
Blend with ours your voices in the triumph song.
Glory, laud and honor unto Christ the King,
This through countless ages men and angels sing.

Refrain
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:38 PM
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11. "The War Prayer" - Mark Twain


It was a time of great exulting and excitement. The country was up in arms, the war was on, in every breast burned the holy fire of patriotism; the drums were beating, the bands playing, the toy pistols popping, the bunched firecrackers hissing and sputtering; on every hand and far down the receding and fading spread of roofs and balconies a fluttering wilderness of flags flashed in the sun; daily the young volunteers marched down the wide avenue gay and fine in their new uniforms, the proud fathers and mothers and sisters and sweethearts cheering them with voices choked with happy emotion as they swung by; nightly the packed mass meetings listened, panting, to patriot oratory which stirred the deepest depths of their hearts, and which they interrupted at briefest intervals with cyclones of applause, the tears running down their cheeks the while; in the churches the pastors preached devotion to flag and country, and invoked the God of Battles, beseeching His aid in our good cause in outpourings of fervid eloquence which moved every listener. It was indeed a glad and gracious time, and the half dozen rash spirits that ventured to disapprove of the war and cast doubt upon its righteousness straight way got such a stern and angry warning that for their personal safety's sake they quickly shrank out of sight and offended no more in that way.

Sunday morning came – next day the battalions would leave for the front; the church was filled; the volunteers were there, their young faces alight with martial dreams – visions of the stern advance, the gathering momentum, the rushing charge, the flashing sabers, the flight of the foe, the tumult, the enveloping smoke, the fierce pursuit, the surrender! – then home from the war, bronzed heroes, welcomed, adored, submerged in golden seas of glory! With the volunteers sat their dear ones, proud, happy, and envied by the neighbors and friends who had no sons and brothers to send forth to the field of honor, there to win for the flag, or failing, die the noblest of noble deaths. The service proceeded; a war chapter from the Old Testament was read; the first prayer was said; it was followed by an organ burst that shook the building, and with one impulse the house rose, with glowing eyes and beating hearts, and poured out that tremendous invocation:

"God the all-terrible! Thou who ordainest, Thunder thy clarion and lightning thy sword!"

Then came the "long" prayer. None could remember the like of it for passionate pleading and moving and beautiful language. The burden of its supplication was, that an ever-merciful and benignant Father of us all would watch over our noble young soldiers, and aid, comfort, and encourage them in their patriotic work; bless them, shield them in the day of battle and the hour of peril, bear them in His mighty hand, make them strong and confident, invincible in the bloody onset; help them to crush the foe, grant to them and to their flag and country imperishable honor and glory – An aged stranger entered and moved with slow and noiseless step up the main aisle, his eyes fixed upon the minister, his long body clothed in a robe that reached to his feet, his head bare, his white hair descending in a frothy cataract to his shoulders, his seamy face unnaturally pale, pale even to ghastliness. With all eyes following and wondering, he made his silent way; without pausing, he ascended to the preacher's side and stood there, waiting. With shut lids the preacher, unconscious of his presence, continued his moving prayer, and at last finished it with the words, uttered in fervent appeal, "Bless our arms, grant us victory, O Lord our God, Father and Protector of our land and flag!"

The stranger touched his arm, motioned him to step aside – which the startled minister did – and took his place. During some moments he surveyed the spellbound audience with solemn eyes, in which burned an uncanny light; then in a deep voice he said:

"I come from the Throne – bearing a message from Almighty God!" The words smote the house with a shock; if the stranger perceived it he gave no attention. "He has heard the prayer of His servant your shepherd, and will grant it if such be your desire after I, His messenger, shall have explained to you its import – that is to say, its full import. For it is like unto many of the prayers of men, in that it asks for more than he who utters it is aware of – except he pause and think.

"God's servant and yours has prayed his prayer. Has he paused and taken thought? Is it one prayer? No, it is two – one uttered, the other not. Both have reached the ear of Him Who heareth all supplications, the spoken and the unspoken. Ponder this – keep it in mind. If you would beseech a blessing upon yourself, beware! lest without intent you invoke a curse upon a neighbor at the same time. If you pray for the blessing of rain upon your crop which needs it, by that act you are possibly praying for a curse upon some neighbor's crop which may not need rain and can be injured by it.

"You have heard your servant's prayer – the uttered part of it. I am commissioned of God to put into words the other part of it – that part which the pastor – and also you in your hearts – fervently prayed silently. And ignorantly and unthinkingly? God grant that it was so! You heard these words: 'Grant us victory, O Lord our God!' That is sufficient. The whole of the uttered prayer is compact into those pregnant words. Elaborations were not necessary. When you have prayed for victory you have prayed for many unmentioned results which follow victory – must follow it, cannot help but follow it. Upon the listening spirit of God the Father fell also the unspoken part of the prayer. He commandeth me to put it into words. Listen!

"O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth to battle – be Thou near them! With them – in spirit – we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with hurricanes of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it – for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen."

(After a pause.) "Ye have prayed it; if ye still desire it, speak! The messenger of the Most High waits."

It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 01:09 PM
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9. more about Perle,the Prince of darkness
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Richard_N._Perle
some notable quotes

Perle had close business ties with Conrad Black, former chairman of Hollinger International Inc., which owns more than 400 daily and weekly newspapers in Canada, the United States, Britain, Israel and Australia. Hollinger papers include London's Daily Telegraph, the Chicago Sun-Times, the Sydney Morning Herald and the Jerusalem Post. Perle used these papers and others to trumpet his anti-Saddam sentiments and to tangle with political figures, such as British Minister Clare Short, who opposed the Perle line on Iraq. Black, a Canadian, joined fellow media kingpin Rupert Murdoch in defending British Prime Minister Tony Blair's decision to stick with Bush's war aims, despite overwhelming domestic opposition.


It was reported (http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/books/05/25/author.and.the.general.ap/index.html) May 25, 2004, by CNN that Tom Clancy, the brand name author with many admirers in the military criticized the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, citing it as proof that "good men make mistakes."

That same writer said he almost "came to blows" with a leading war supporter, former Pentagon adviser Richard Perle.

The hawkish master of such million-selling thrillers as "Patriot Games" and "The Hunt for Red October" now finds himself adding to the criticism of the Iraq war, and not only through his own comments.

His latest book, Battle Ready (2004 book) is a collaboration with another war critic, retired Marine Gen. Anthony C. Zinni. "Battle Ready" looks at Zinni's long military career, dating back to the Vietnam War, and includes harsh remarks by Zinni about the current conflict.

In a press conference held on March 25, to promote the book, both Clancy and Zinni singled out the Department of Defense for criticism. Clancy recalled a prewar encounter in Washington during which he "almost came to blows" with Richard Perle, a Pentagon adviser at the time and a longtime advocate of the invasion.

"He was saying how (Secretary of State) Colin L. Powell was being a wuss because he was overly concerned with the lives of the troops," Clancy said. "And I said, 'Look ..., he's supposed to think that way!' And Perle didn't agree with me on that. People like that worry me."

One unusual (but in-character for him) habit of Perle's is his demands for payment for press inteviews
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:53 PM
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12. There is no doubt in my mind that War with Iran is going
to happen WWIII :nuke:
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