Something very strange is going on in America....

[originalpckelly]

1.Hillary Clinton being given a fundraiser by Rupert Murdoch? OK, that is the weirdest thing I have ever heard. You know it too.

2. The freepers revolting against Bush. Those people would have jumped off a bridge for him. (By the way, now they're about Civil War, I take their word for it when they such things. They have a little bit of a history you know.)

3. The President openly breaks a law. The pick for the CIA is a military guy, and it is illegal to have two military guys at the same time. (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sec_50_00000403----000-.html) That isn't it, however, the President is being opposed by his own party on this.

I know there are probably things I am missing, but this makes think something very bad is about to happen. I mean, really, did hell just freeze over? What do you make of this.

[AX10]

1. Freepers may revolt against Bush, but they will fully support...

whoever the GOP nominates in 2008.

[Fovea]

30. Yeah, I can see the campaign slogan now

Vote for McCain, he's unindicted.

[flamin lib]

48. Yeah, but they'll stay home by the droves . . .nt

[marmar]

2. A mess, like Rome before the fall...

:scared:

[formercia]

36. The Romans had an excuse

Lead poisoning. What is the Chimperor's?

[SpiralHawk]

38. Excuse: Genetically mutant food products as a mainstay of his diet

and perverse training as a Connecticut preppy AWOL skull & boner cheerleader failed businesspuppet.

[formercia]

41. In a bubble since birth

and having no desire to look outside.

[Tesha]

39. Actually, the Romans suffered from the same disease we suffer from...

Actually, the Romans suffered from the same disease
we suffer from: their empire was over-extended and
they had no capacity to govern the more-remote areas.
Eventually, the empire was divided into more-governable
segments, but the damage had already been done; the
western segment of the empire fairly quickly collapsed
and the eastern segment "went native".

(In very broad-brush terms)

Tesha

[formercia]

42. Neo-colonialism is a failed concept

The UN was supposed to be the answer but it didn't take into account leaders on a 'Mission from God'.

[AnneD]

43. FAS

fetal alcohol syndrome. Or FOS full of shit.

[Bandit]

46. I read a group of phsycics a long time ago that made startling

statements. One I remember said that America had been subjected to a form of mind control in the late sixties and that it would last for about forty years before some clear thinking would again come to the forefront. That forty years is just about up...It was supposedly done by an outside group that were not really Americans but a world group. I don't know if there is any truth at all but things sure have seemed like that. At least to me. I believe America has gone completely looney.

[formercia]

49. Fearless Leader was the anti-dope. n/t

[simonm]

50. Not surprising

Propaganda can be a form of mind control. Indirectly but nonetheless manipulative.

[tlsmith1963]

52. I Think...

that Limbaugh was part of the far-Right's plan from the beginning. Use him to brainwash the conservatives so they can do their dirty-work. They have been fed propaganda for years. Unfortunately, it has worked all too well. They all sound like a bunch of Hitler-supporters now. I hope that if Bush is impeached, the Republicans find out that Limbaugh was part of the plan & they were played like violins. I want them to feel embarassed & ashamed that they fell for it. I want them to know about the PNAC, Diebold, all of it.

Tammy

[sandyd921]

53. Well hey it didn't work on everyone.

I guess some of us are just resisters (or crazy leebrals)!

:rofl:

[tridim]

3. Also, Pat Robertson was dissing Bush last night on the 700 Club

Agreed, something is wacky in Bushland.

[BeFree]

12. It's a virus

The virus is called impeachable43W and it's gotten into the ears of damn near everyone by now. The symptoms include an opening of the vascular eye-lid, sensations of being fooled, and profound lack of faith in corrupt politicians.

Good for America, I'd say.

[WiseButAngrySara]

31. DU's been infected since its inception! ....n/t

[libhill]

45. Or -

the Repukes and their misguided supporters see the hand writing on the wall, and with the mid terms looming near, they're deserting the sinking ship of state like the self serving rats that they are...

[earth mom]

44. Oh oh. Robertson is on the warpath?! Watch out!

He is pure evil and very dangerous. :scared:

Could be a very good thing if he is aiming at Dumbya though! :evilgrin:

[northzax]

4. but the number two and three spots

are not military guys (they are career Agency) so what's your point on the illegal? did I miss something?

[originalpckelly]

11. Vice Admiral Albert M. Calland

is currently the deputy director of central intelligence. He is military.

[northzax]

13. but the proposal calls for the apppointment

of Stephen R. Kappes, a lifer at the CIA (before quitting when Goss came onboard) and Calland would retire.

so they've actually thought this one out.

[rodeodance]

35. So, we then would have two military-and can not have Ret. either. so It

would be no good if Hayden changed his clothes (there has been discussion of this). But this seems too easy.

[Tuesday_Morning]

5. Lou Dobbs tonight asked

if bush is mentally unstable.

[Sadie5]

7. Fienstein said tonight

on I think lou Dobbs, might have been situation room, that this guy was a great choice, well qualified.Passed through the room as she was blabbing.

[ShortnFiery]

40. I would love to see DiFi's investment portfolio n/t

[hatrack]

23. Wow - any details you'd be willing to share?

:wtf:

[Tuesday_Morning]

47. It was during Dobb's discussion

with three radio personalities - one of them Randi Rhodes. They were talking about Bush's falling poll numbers and how it means that Bush is now concerned about his legacy. The Repub radio guy (sorry, bad w/ names) didn't agree, of course. But Randi and the other guy ( a radio guy out of NYC) both said that his concern w/ his legacy makes him dangerous, makes him more likely to do something drastic like bomb Iran. And the radio guy out of NYC said something like: Yes, this should be our biggest concern...because he's unstable. Others started talking but Dobbs cut them off with some urgency in his voice: Do you think - do you really think that he is mentally unstable? The radio guy said yes but gave an awful example - how Bush nominated Michael Hayden w/out vetting it with anybody.

[populistdriven]

6. * is "Shaka, when the walls fell."

For Tamarians and Trekkies that speak Darmok

holy crap I wish that was a googlism

"Shaka, when the walls fell" links to White House would be awesome

[arcane1]

8. does that make us and the right Darmok and Jilad?

:)

[populistdriven]

9. lol yes it would both foes united against *

[SeattleGirl]

10. Perhaps. But where is Tanagua? (sp?)

:shrug:

[iconoclastic cat]

16. Dorks.

[populistdriven]

18. Kiteo, his eyes closed.

[populistdriven]

17. A balanced budget could be our Tanagra

[SeattleGirl]

24. I like it!

:thumbsup:

Edited to add: Thanks for clarifying that it's Tanagra, not Tanagua. Sheesh! That's one of my favoirite episodes, so you'd think I'd get it right!
:blush:

[originalpckelly]

26. DUers our sanity gone?

That was a joke. Laugh! I said laugh!

[SeattleGirl]

27. Laugh? What is this laugh of which you speak.

:rofl:

[Clovis Sangrail]

14. re: legality of Hayden nomination

it looks like the plan is to replace the DDCI as well, so there would only be 1 military person.

http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/06/05/09/100wir_a3ciachief001.cfm
Under the plan, Vice Adm. Albert Calland III would be replaced as deputy director by retired CIA official Stephen Kappes, who quit in November 2004 in a dispute with then-Director Porter Goss.

[bbinacan]

15. Stansfield Turner,

If I'm not mistaken, he held his Admiral's commission for a year and a half after being nominated. Will check it out and get back to you.:shrug:

[bbinacan]

19. Answered my own question about Turner

"APPOINTED 8 February 1977 by President Jimmy Carter; confirmed by Senate,24 February 1977; sworn in, 9 March 1977

Promoted to Admiral, 1975; retired from active duty, 31 December 1978"

[originalpckelly]

20. This is weird, but after what I have seen today I'll believe anything...

John Titor widely thought to be a hoax. I think he was right. How could someone have known we were headed towards a Civil War in 2000, when 9/11 hadn't even happened?

He talked about the stuff that is happening now. The one thing he said that was wrong is that there would be no Olympics after 2004.

Maybe he said that to throw us all off. But I think there is some very good evidence to show what Titor said is true.

Titor said the next Civil War would begin with a bunch of Ruby-Ridge type events. Today we saw the freepers talk about Civil War and secession. I think that these are the kind of people who perpetrated Ruby-Ridge and they are going to disenfranchised by this reporting on the Minutemen. I have no doubt this is what Titor was speaking of.

Furthermore Titor predicted that we would all know we were living in a different world by 2008. Hillary being supported by Mr. Murdoch did this for me.

Here is some more information on Titor.

I know many people might think time travel is completely impossible. Well, Einstein discussed time travel in Relativity. It was simply travel to the future. I don't think it would be impossible to find a way to warp space to travel to the past.


One way or another, I think it is striking Mr. Titor predicted with high accuracy the events we are now seeing. I had long though Civil War was possible, but of my own accord, just because I started thinking about why Bush came to power. I know this is a tinfoil hat brigade post, but since hell has officially frozen over, I think anything is possible.

Here is a Wikipedia article on Mr. Titor:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor

[Ms. Clio]

28. nope, gotta say I draw the line at Titor

sorry :)

[originalpckelly]

29. Okay Ms. Clio (n/t)

[jerry611]

21. The GOP has alienated their base...A revolt is brewing

What happened I think (and this is just my opinion) is that neo-conservatism, which has been the foundation of GOP policy for more than a decade, has officially failed. And their base has abandoned the idea, and now Bush and Cheney are left alone with a sinking ship and no crew.

The Democrats will benefit for maybe 2006 and 2008. And Democrats will win elections easily. Because the GOP is going to go through an internal power struggle. Who ever wins that power struggle is going to be the nominee in 2012. A united GOP at that point will be about as difficult to beat as it was in 2000 and 2004.

But don't think the GOP or the right-wing is dead. Remember, an animal is most dangerous when it is wounded. The Democrats will have a GOLDEN opertunity to get the moderates and even the moderate conservatives back (like Clinton was able to do). And we will have at least 4 years to do it. But I am afraid that the Democrats might have gone too far to the left. In that case, we arn't going to be in power for very long because the moderates will be scared away.

[Kurt Remarque]

22. when did you notice? ha!

[ananda]

25. Hillary Clinton scares me...

Murdoch!!??

He was so pro Reagan and controls the media through Fox news and other outlets.

This is horrible.

Sue

[JCMach1]

32. The enemy of my enemy is my friend

eom

[dorktv]

33. "there's something happening here...there's a man with a gun over

there telling me I got to beware..."

[Cleita]

34. I think our slip is showing and we are having a wardrobe malfunction

of very visible proportions. It explains your points #2 and #3. Our government has been corrupt for some time now and it's beginning to show in a very public way.

As for Murdock is he insuring that if Hillary is elected President that she will still allow him the latitude to compromise the media like he has been doing? Is he that worried that he has to start courting the person who could be the next President?

As for Hillary, what is she thinking?

[YOY]

37. Hillary is the only one that worries me

Sounds like an effort to splinter the left so that McCain will have an easy entrance...

[mom cat]

51. The puppeteer is juat switching from a right hand puppet (Bush) to

a (so called) left hand puppet (Hillary).