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handsignals4theblind Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 07:11 PM
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The USA- Florida is a haven for terrorists-Double standards -hypocrisy

It would appear, that many AMericans are unaware of their own history, and their governments connections with terrorists.

Firstly, their are the connections between the Iraqi death squad militias,and the Pentagon funding, arming and training, similar to what happened in El Salvador. John Negroponte is linked to setting up death squad militias, in El Salvador, and in Iraq as ambassador?
* Z magazine May 05-unraveling Iraq's Militias-*Wall Street Journal- FEb 16/05-numerous "pop up" militias in Iraq.

Observer UK-July 3rd/05- Grim world of new Iraqi torture camps-murders by para-militarys with links to powerful ministries done under the noses of UK and US forces----some of those insiders in the ministry were CIA contacts in the Baath party, under Saddam.---NO smoking gun as of yet but you can see the pattern----THE US, as most in Latin America used the same techniques to destabilize the societies of Colombia, El SAlvador with dirty proxy militias, as in Iraq funded, trained, and armed by the Pentagon.

James Steele, and other researchers establish the links between the Iraqi Interior Ministry and CIA asset ADNAN Thabit:(90's)-formerly in charge of the Saddam Mukahabarat Intelligence service, and a CIA asset. He was trained by counter insurgency experts in the USA.

ANd of course those SHiite assets in the special police commandos

EThnic militias instead of a well mixed army, police will only lead to more lack of trust, insecurity. What do death squads have to do with democracy?
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Another example of US ties to terrorism was the 1980 train explosion in Bologna Italy. This was initially blamed on leftist terrorist but now we know it was the CIA working with Italian Fascists of the P2 LODGE- Licio Celi. Many CIA are Knights of Malta or apart of the Vatican's Opus Dei movement.
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OF course I don't have to mention the School of the Americas in Fort Benning Georgia that goes under another name, called the WEstern Hemisphere Institute for SEcurity Cooperation. It has trained many Latin American military officers accused of well documented human rights abuses.

These, same characters are given amnesty for their crimes in Florida along with many anti-Castro cubans linked to hijackings of planes and boats-including Luis Posada Carilles-former CIA asset responsible for downing a Cuban airliner killing 73-----read anything by James Banford- Body of Secrets to read about this and Operation -Northwoods.**************************************************************

Of course even you ahistorical flag wavers,doubting any of the above, should note-the Pentagon created Strategic Support Branch- JCOS Conplan, and more interestingly the P20G-- William Arkin- LA times-OCt 27,2002.
The P2OG-Proactive, Pre-emptive Operations Group- set to launch secret operations aimed at "stimulating reactions among terrorists and states possessing covert support by US military ---intelligence operations apparatus has been channeled to various Islamic terrorist cells through a complex network of intermediaries and intelligence proxies."

*perhaps this is why the USA was told to leave UZbekistan because the leadership there suspects Special Ops/ CIA meetings with Islamic Rebels.......more on this later.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 07:18 PM
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1. hi handsignals4theblind
you need to post stuff like this in General Discussion, as this is not LBN.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 07:20 PM
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2. Yep....here's another example and how it relates today - Florida is key
Edited on Fri Dec-30-05 07:22 PM by blm
The Case That Kerry Cracked
By Lucy Komisar, AlterNet


One gets an eerie sense of déjà vu watching John Kerry battle the Bush clan. He’s done it once before, against the old man, President Bush’s father, though many voters have probably forgotten. That battle involved the first Bush administration’s attempt to put the lid on an investigation that connected a worldwide criminal bank to narco-traffickers, terrorists, and to Middle East money men who helped the Bush family make piles of cash. Those links connect to people now on the U.S. post-9/11 terrorist list.

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Kerry The Investigator

As a former prosecutor, Kerry knew a lot about the workings of financial crime. Kerry pointed out how billions of dollars looted from U.S. savings and loans in the 1980s — after Ronald Reagan deregulated the thrift industry — had been stashed in secret offshore accounts. After he became head of the Senate Subcommittee on Terrorism, Narcotics and International Operations, Kerry had wanted to look into cocaine trafficking by Contras fighting the Sandinistas in Nicaragua and the connection to Oliver North’s illegal offshore Contra-support operation. So, in 1986, Kerry hired Washington lawyer Jack Blum to head the investigation.

As an investigator for Senator Frank Church’s subcommittee on multinational corporations, Blum had exposed the Lockheed bribes and ITT’s attempts to destabilize the government of Salvador Allende in Chile.
“The Foreign Relations Committee was looking at the relationship between drug trafficking and arms dealing and the way we run foreign policy,” says Blum. “’Did we ignore all the stuff going on to support the war in Nicaragua?’ We got into the issue of money laundering.” Blum said he “stumbled across Lee Ritch,” who told the panel, “I used to launder my money in the Cayman Islands. The U.S. wised up, and the bankers told me to shift to Panama. In Panama, I’m told the only guy to talk to is Noriega. He sends me to BCCI.”

Blum says, “We go poking around. I found a guy who had worked for BCCI. I met him in Miami. He said, ‘That’s their major line of work. They’re a bunch of criminals.’ He goes on to say that in addition to handling drug money, they were managing Noriega’s personal finances and that the bankers who did that lived in Miami.” Noriega even carried a BCCI Visa credit card.

So Blum subpoenaed that information. He said, “There is a subplot between us and the federal government and prosecutors. We find out about coming arrests for money laundering , but the feds want to make only a limited case in Tampa; they don’t want to investigate other ramifications. Their story is they had their case and didn’t want it messed up with extraneous stuff. The notion the other stuff was extraneous boggles the mind.”

Blum began poking deeper and came across the CIA standing in the shadows. He found that during the 1980s, the CIA had prepared hundreds of reports that discussed BCCI’s criminal connections — drug trafficking, money laundering — and its control of Washington's First American Bank, part of an illegal plot to get into the U.S. banking system. He also found that this was accomplished with the help of major U.S. figures, including former Treasury Secretary Bert Lance, former Defense Secretary Clark Clifford, former U.S. Sen. Stuart Symington, ex-federal bank regulators, and former and current local, state and federal legislators.
The CIA provided its reports to Treasury Secretary Donald Regan but not to the prosecutors in Tampa. The Treasury and Customs departments also sat on evidence. Kerry tried to get the Bush Justice Department to expand the Tampa investigation or to turn its information over to the FBI or other agencies. It refused.
Blum told me, “We started with laundering drug money, but then pursued it much further and got in testimony a pretty good layout of the criminal nature of the bank. Having done that, we wrote a report and said the matter needs further investigation. But the Justice Department doesn’t pick up on any of the clues. I talked to them. I got a leading figure in the bank to turn evidence to the government, which didn’t want to listen. I taped him for three days with undercover agents in a hotel room in Miami; the government didn’t transcribe the tapes.”

The chief Customs undercover agent who handled the drug sting against BCCI was so disgusted, he quit. The Justice Department ordered key witnesses not to cooperate with Kerry, and it refused to produce documents subpoenaed by his subcommittee. The CIA also stonewalled or lied to the Kerry investigators.

As a junior senator, Kerry was further hampered because his subcommittee mandate was limited to looking into terrorism and drugs. But even that investigation was bothering too many important people, so Clayborne Pell, a Democratic senator, shut it down.

Then the Justice Department closed the Tampa case with a plea bargain that let BCCI off the hook. Kerry was furious. He thought the crooked bank should be shut down. He said the deal kept the bank alive and discouraged bank officials from telling the U.S. what they knew about BCCI's larger criminality, including its ownership of First American and other U.S. banks. However, the bank relied on its friends. Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) defended the plea bargain on the Senate floor, and then asked the bank to lend $10 million to a friend.

Following the plea agreement, the Justice Department stopped investigating BCCI for about 18 months. It even lobbied state regulators to keep BCCI open — after being urged to do that by former Justice Department personnel working for BCCI.

Kerry tried in 1990 and 1991 to get an investigation by the Senate Banking Committee, chaired by Democrat Donald Riegle. But Riegle and four of the other members of his committee had gotten money from Charles Keating, head of Lincoln Savings and Loan, who was later convicted of fraud, and they weren’t interested in drawing attention to crooked banks.

Finally, Kerry got permission to run a one-day subcommittee hearing in May 1991. Then he started holding public hearings through the banking committee, which wouldn’t staff them; he had to use his own people. “Riegle considered himself a gentlemen, because he let Kerry do that,” says Blum. “Riegle is probably the most misnamed U.S. senator.”
The bank’s friends prevented more Kerry hearings, says Blum. “They got it out of Foreign Relations,” he recalled. “We later learned that BCCI, between September 1988 and July 1991 when the bank closed, spent $26 million on lawyers and lobbyists trying to keep themselves in business. They hired people on both sides to shut down.”
But, Blum adds, “They didn’t stop me from going to the New York County DA’s office with Kerry’s blessing to assure a prosecution would ensue.” Blum went to see New York District Attorney Robert Morgenthau and told him about the Justice Department’s refusal to investigate BCCI's involvement in drug money laundering and other crimes. The Justice Department and the Federal Reserve, run by Paul Volcker, refused to aid the DA’s investigation.
However, Morgenthau got a grand jury indictment of BCCI in July 1991. It said the bank and its founders had defrauded depositors, falsified bank records to hide illegal money laundering, committed millions of dollars in larcenies and paid off public officials. It charged that BCCI had been a criminal enterprise since 1972 and had paid millions of dollars in bribes to central bankers or other financial officials in a dozen developing countries. Morgenthau named Ghaith Pharaon as a front man for BCCI who had gotten a secret loan from the bank to invest in three U.S. banks.
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The Kerry Committee report issued in 1992 was damning. It said that the White House knew about BCCI’s criminal activities, that the U.S. intelligence agencies used it for secret banking and that BCCI routinely paid off American public officials. Among the Kerry Report’s major findings:
• Federal prosecutors handling the Tampa drug money laundering indictment of BCCI did not use the information they collected to focus on — or report to federal agencies — BCCI’s other crimes, including its secret, illegal ownership of First American Bank.
• The Justice, Treasury and Customs departments failed to support or aid investigators and prosecutors.
• Following lobbying by former Justice officials working for BCCI, the U.S. attorney in Tampa accepted a plea agreement that kept BCCI alive and discouraged bank officials from revealing other crimes.
• CIA chief Casey and the agency knew, by early 1985, a lot about what BCCI was up to and didn’t inform the Justice Department or the Federal Reserve.
• “After the CIA knew that BCCI was, as an institution, a fundamentally corrupt criminal enterprise, it continued to use both BCCI and First American, BCCI's secretly held U.S. subsidiary, for CIA operations.”
• The Federal Reserve approved the first hidden BCCI takeover despite evidence the bank was behind it because it was swayed by influence-peddlers such as Clifford and because the CIA and Treasury failed to raise warnings about what they knew.
• There’s a lot about BCCI that outsiders will never know. Once the investigations started, there were seven fires in the fireproof London warehouses where BCCI stored records. In one of them, four firemen were killed.
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handsignals4theblind Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 07:41 PM
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3. -Florida -15 out of 19 hijackers can't be wrong Mickey Mouse
--World Finance Corp. The Bank of Ambrosia scandal-BCCI---follow the money

the 'terrorist gang' used Wally Hilliards school in Venice Florida
Wally Hilliard, the financier of a dubious background has been indicted because one of his Leer Jets returned from Venezuela with alot of heroin.

Seems the CIA, cocaine trafficking in the CAribbean is a lucrative way to make and use unaccountable filthy lucre$$$$

Funny, some say that when Atta lived there he liked using cocaine, along with his stripper girlfriend AManda Keller

AL ZArqawi will retire in Naples Florida under the alias- Kaizer Solze:nuke:
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peanutbrittle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:43 PM
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4. Florida is a haven for domestic terrorists
Of course Daniel Hopsicker has done extensive research on Atta, the CIA, drug running, etc.
http://www.madcowprod.com/

Interesting that Punta Gorda used to be a huge haven for CIA

From the average drug dealers and other common criminals to Al Capone and other mafia figures through the years to Enron exec,s and other white collar criminals with their licenses to steal from the masses, building their megamansions (homesteading so they can keep their ill-gotten gains} to Mel Sembler and his sickening group to Abramoff , Florida Republican thugs in congress all the way up to Jebby boy of S&L fame. The state stinks to high heaven.

The alligators don't go hungry down there.
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peanutbrittle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:48 PM
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5. There was some speculation that
Mel Sembler cronie for the Bushite's, given the job as Ambassador to Italy had something to do with the theft of the 2004 election through his Miami torture school for teens.

If you aren't aware of Mel Sembler and his ties to this administration or he, his wife and his group, just Google it and see the sickening information that comes up.
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peanutbrittle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:54 PM
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6. I am also fairly convinced
that the Beltway snipers were manchurians and the whole thing was set up by a rogue military CIA or other group close to this administration and their handlers were from Florida.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 06:15 AM
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10. Our fine corporate media did so very little research on these two, too.
Considering the terror and confusion they created, after they were caught, there was a meager amount of information offered on them to help citizens understand just what the hell had happened. It was smoothly moved out of the public consciousness.
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peanutbrittle Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:57 PM
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7. Another FL whistleblower case
that I have heard nothing more about was the Mary Schnieder case. Her website has been taken down but she was apparentl gagged by the courts when she blew the whistle on the INS in Florida for letting in Atta and others.

There has been nothing more said about this case and I wonder why.
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 09:00 PM
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8. Case In Point: Rush Limbaugh!
Definite threat to national security.

Lives in Florida I believe
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 09:11 PM
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9. Added
I think it is appropriate to suggest that US/Iraqi death squads are operating in Iraq--in fact, Margret Hassan and probably the current plight of human rights workers are their handy work...as well as the various assassination attempts on Saddam's legal retinue.

As Fisk noted in the Hassan video tapes:

In the background of these appalling pictures, there were none of the usual Islamic banners. There were none of the usual armed and hooded men. There were no Qur'anic recitations.

And when it percolated through to Fallujah and Ramadi that the mere act of kidnapping Hassan was close to heresy, the combined resistance groups of Fallujah - and the message genuinely came from them - demanded her release.

So, incredibly, did Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the al-Qaeda man whom the Americans falsely claimed was leading the Iraqi insurrection, but who has definitely been involved in the kidnappings and beheadings.


http://www.int.iol.co.za/index.php?sf=2813&art_id=vn20041117041552641C735999

OR the fact that, contrary to popular belief, Hassan's body has never been recovered...

A fourth man has been arrested over the kidnap and killing of 59-year-old British aid worker Margaret Hassan, the UK embassy in Iraq has said.

On Sunday, three men were among a group detained when Iraqi and US forces raided homes south-east of Baghdad.

Police said they found ID, clothing and a handbag belonging to Dublin-born Mrs Hassan, who was abducted on 19 October.

A video showing Mrs Hassan's apparent death was released a month later but her body has never been recovered.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4503347.stm


Reuters story of the original 'no body' report at Rense:
(note: since the body of a western woman wasn't Hassan--who was it?)
http://www.rense.com/general60/hassan.htm

The Strange Case Of Margaret Hassan

The kidnapping of Margaret Hassan involved a strange paradox. She had been snatched from her car by those supposedly associated with the more extreme of the various factions of the Iraqi resistance. It was also when the British Government was poised to authorise the despatch of the Black Watch to support the United States assault on Fallujah. To have used Margaret Hassan, effectively "one of their own", as a bargaining "card" against the move of the Black Watch, would logically have been counter-productive for the Iraqi cause. When Margaret Hassan was finally, tragically said to have been executed, we were informed that a badly mutilated body was to be flown home for D.N.A. testing to confirm the identity. Nothing of this seems to have been heard since. At the same point, of the assault on Fallujah, it was reported that a cousin of Prime Minister Iyad Hallawi had been kidnapped along with two female relatives; later that the two women had been released. Logically, this episode should have been grounds for serious concern for both Allawi and for the Coalition. Again, we appear to have heard nothing since. We may reasonably argue, therefore, that those associated with the Coalition could well have kidnapped and executed Margaret Hassan to discredit the Iraqi resistance at a crucial time, and that the "kidnapping" of Allawi's close relatives was a "blind"; a Diversion.
LINK



Speculation of a CIA-Mossad connection:
http://www.williambowles.info/spysrus/cia_mossad.html

Guardian Investigation of The Two Italian Aid workers:
Who seized Simona Torretta?
This Iraqi kidnapping has the mark of an undercover police operation
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1305523,00.html

Note for the record that Hassan remains, I believe, the only women kidnap victim killed as well as all others have been released by their capture.






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