Are Americans just thick?

[NNN0LHI]

I mean after well over 2000 dead soldiers and thousands more disabled for life you would think Americans would be bright enough to figure out for themselves that the Iraqis don't want us in their country.

But no. A good portion of America (mostly Fox news viewers) still think that the Iraqis like us and want our military to stay there and continue "helping" them.

What is the cause of this? Are these Americans stupid? Brainwashed? Insane? What is it?

Don

[Cooley Hurd]

1. "Baghdad, the Branson, MO of the Middle East..."

If we market it that way to these yahoos, perhaps they'll vacation there? Their gene pools need to be drained a bit...

[nicknameless]

7. !!!

:rofl:

[madokie]

8. that draining might be some of the causes.

[KyuzoGator]

2. Yes. Next thread. nt

[Mikimouse]

3. Not stupid, just,

completely self-absorbed and selfish. The people who are still in the * camp only see the profits to be made, and the economic stability that those profits will potentially mean to them. Oh boy, they can drive their gas guzzlers the two blocks to work or the store for another ten years! It seems clear that as long as there is no widespread suffering here, as in a real lack of food, clothing, clean drinking water, and shelter, nothing will change. We are the last nation on Earth to whine about 'entitlement' programs for anyone, as we seem to think that we are entitled to all the wealth and resources, and fuck anyone who gets in our way. I stand by my sig. line.

[Proud_Democratt]

6. We are out of touch with the reality

that soon we could be reduced to "Third World" country standards.

[eShirl]

4. Preoccupied

with making a living and taking care of their families, and then with trying to relax/unwind/enjoy what little time they can until they have to go to sleep, get up and start all over again.

[Pierzin]

5. War is not Getting Coverage It Did In Days Gone By...

That is the sad truth. The Media is not what it once was. Much of it is now owned by fewer companies. We don't have reporters as much as we have spokemodels. The outspoken are discounted and not heard as much.
I don't know about you but it seems some people I know are too busy being good little serfs to really know what is going on. The apathy, though, is just appalling beyond the pale. I know service people -veterans-who say "Do not protest against the American soldier." - :wow: :wow: :wtf: and this from people who KNEW the war was a LIE. This is someone I care about deeply too, so I just don't understand the reasoning.

The war needs to be covered as the Vietnam War was. I wasn't around then, but I'll bet that war got more than a sound bite on the nightly news.
We need to see the horror of it. We need Entertainment Tonight to be replaced by footage of a typical town where there is no water, no power, no police, etc. We need nightly -24/7- coverage like they did with Clinton, and maybe then our lazy ass American brethren will get off their big fat lazyboys and take to the streets against this administration, like the Latinos did recently.
I mean come on America!!! WTF is it gonna take???

[converted_democrat]

9. They know the Iraqis don't want us there, they just don't want to

admit that they were wrong.. Out of their ignorance and arrogance they truly think that they know what's best for the Iraqis, even though they've never been there, know nothing of their culture, and probably can't even find Iraq on a map.. They know that they don't want us there, they just aren't ready to admit that they were wrong yet..

[ktlyon]

16. Some have even put their religious faith on the line by saying

he has god's blessing or something like that.
These people will be hard to move. If they say Bush was wrong then their god dies also,

[patriothackd]

10. Why think?

It's so much more pleasant to not think. Thinking is over rated.

[leftyladyfrommo]

11. No. I think this whole thing is so terrible that people just

can't stand to look at it.

But they are going to have to. It's getting too terrible.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. Flags make great blinders. Slogans make great earplugs.

"Spreading democracy", "Support Our Troops", "God Bless America", "We won't Cut and Run", etc, etc, ad nauseum.

Throw in some stern looking generals adorned with tinware and ribbons, some constipated politicians taling about "the ultimate sacrifice" and "freedom", a weepy rendition of God Bless America, and voila, bodies and carnage disappear. Replaced by exciting pictures of explisions and "heroic" troops battling the "evil doers" with "shock and awe".

And, don't forget the flags. Gotta have a lotta flags.

[MADem]

13. It's the "just war" prejudice

It dates back to WW2, when the fate of the world really was at stake.

We can't get used to the idea that our leadership would actually involve themselves in fights for something other than truth, justice and the American way. Every misadventure is written off as an exception to the rule.

It's like an abusive relationship, where the public says "He didn't really MEAN to hit me..."

To wake up and smell the coffee means that these people will have to realize how fragile our system can become; and they need to involve themselves in the process. Of course, people have so many competing priorities nowadays; and they don't take the time to be a vigilant citizen. Finding the cash to buy little Billy those snazzy sneakers is more important than shaping the society and the government he will live under in future, for some.

That "Of the people, by the people, FOR the people" requires that the people get with the program. Unfortunately, only about 20% of the people seem to give a shit nowadays....

[stillcool]

14. powerless to effect change?......

Few of us can easily surrender our belief that society must somehow make sense. The thought that the state has lost its mind and is punishing so many innocent people is intolerable. And so the evidence has to be internally denied.”– Arthur Miller, playwright

[GeorgeGist]

15. Thick and Shallow...

like stepped-in shit .

[robbedvoter]

17. The backwash are bullies. We kill them for their own good.

Ungrateful bastards!

[Hissyspit]

18. Victims of our own successes...

All medicines have side effects.

[Golden Raisin]

19. Too many are more interested in 'American Idol'

and the missing white girl in Aruba, and the whore media are more than happy to accomodate. Bush could suspend the Constitution or dance naked through Washington's Union Station and the Fox/CNN/MSNBC Network would be on live 24/7 preempt on national TV covering a plane having landing problems somewhere.

[linazelle]

20. It's the Media stupid...

It really is the media.

People are being fed garbage and we expect them to have healthy political opinions. Where are they supposed to form those opinions?

Things will continue along the same path until WE come up with a way to educate people. These are the conditions under which we must operate: educating our fellow citizens cannot be done on the internet alone and it cannot be done via the established media. Satellite radio and the internet are luxuries for the poverty stricken citizens of this country--a luxury monetarily and a luxury in terms of time--they have no time to do what we do here.

So what's left? That's for us to decide. When will we decide? When we realize that we have no other alternative. Are we there yet?

[frustrated_lefty]

21. It's that 32% backwash.