Valerie Plame "Shopping Around" For A Book Deal. Why?

[Dinger]

I happen to think it's a good sign.

P.S. I vote choice # 1

[Mojambo]

1. Well, I think she kinda lost her job

A book deal seems like a natural.

[Selatius]

2. She's unemployed now. This is self-employment. n/t

[peacetalksforall]

3. Why would any of you vote for greedy? We don't even know her? My

question is serious.

I have no problem with the option. I would expect 0 votes? Am I wrong or is my post invalid because it questions?

[OldLeftieLawyer]

5. Why do you have trouble

with someone's choice?

I mean, you asked. So you got answers.

What's wrong with someone having an opinion that YOU set up?

Sheeesh.

[peacetalksforall]

22. I set up? It's not my poll. I just said I'm not objecting to the poll.

But, I expected to see zero votes because I can't see how anyone could know her well enough to say she is greedy as in a greedy person.

Anyway, I didn't set up the poll.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

24. You didn't?

Oh, then my apologies.

So, you still have a problem with someone having an opinion that might not jibe with yours?

George W. Bush has that same problem.

[Solo_in_MD]

63. Its Washington DC

which means its all about the money. Currently living in the midst of it, hope to be out of there soon

[Dinger]

8. Your Post Is Definitely Not Invalid

I put it in there because I wanted to make my choice clear. I could have just as easily (& maybe should have)
made the other choices # 2 : "blah"
# 3: "blah"
# 4: "blah"

Or I could have kept choice # 1, and made the second choice "other"

[Catherine Vincent]

9. Freeper.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

15. WHERE?

JESUS, GET OUT THE TRAPS!!!!!!!!!!

[Catherine Vincent]

19. Here.

But then maybe not. You never know.

You've been acting a little testy lately. You're lucky I like you. :-)

[OldLeftieLawyer]

21. I'm "lucky" you "like me"

Blow it out your blowhole, sweetie.

Dissent is precisely what Fuckface wants people to avoid.

You just drank the Kool Aid. Go like someone else. You're confusing intelligent with testy.

49. You can have good intentions and also

have an eye on profit and vanity. People have mixture of motives. I don't think it is right to imply you are a Freeper just because you have an opinion on her book deal.

Reminds me of a post on Hillary Clinton and how she has shares in WalMart and has not spoken out on their healthcare policies. People were threatening the freeper word on that one too.

They both look like very fancy people to me, and used to luxury I think. So they are in the middle of the gigantic political intrigue, they are still human beings.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

51. Everyone wants to be an author,

or, as my favorite godson referred to me when my first book came out, an "arthur."

Greed isn't necessarily about money, as we know. People want. That's what keeps us going.

Now, everyone can be Ari Fleischer and Clark Kent Irvin and hurry up and get their books out, no matter what, and I'm not certain that's anything to be proud of.

People used to take years to write books about their government service, but they were people with dignity and self-restraint, and, perhaps the value I miss almost as much as dignity, self-respect.

[CTyankee]

58. Ah, c'mon Leftie, she just wants to set the record straight

and she has the opportunity to do so. I would too, in her position. I think we should get off the profit thing. You know and I know that pride in one's own work and profession is a pretty strong motivator.

She has the chance to get her word in, and she's doing it. I don't blame her one bit.

Can't wait to read it, BTW (from the public library of course. I'm too Scotch to buy it).

[Catherine Vincent]

56. Okay fine. I don't like you anymore.

[Cooley Hurd]

26. Good call...

:thumbsup:

[Catherine Vincent]

59. Thanks!

:-)

[Rhiannon12866]

43. You called it, my friend.

Sorry that you had to put up with this. We're with you.:pals:

[Catherine Vincent]

57. Thanks, hon.

:hi:

[Rhiannon12866]

64. Always...

Rhiannon:hi:

[Rhiannon12866]

41. I agree.

Yikes! Who really cares?! :scared:

[Cooley Hurd]

45. We should care when those who infiltrate DU without check...

:thumbsup:

[Rhiannon12866]

65. Yes? I guess I missed the rest of your message. Were you cut off?

That can be my excuse, and often is, but not yours. But I agree. We all need to check the facts before making a post. I certainly do.:-)

[stepnw1f]

46. I Think So

[Rhiannon12866]

68. I agree. This woman lost her essential job under the worst circumstances.

She could be bitter, but she's not. I agree with your post. We don't know her, but she appears to have taken what happened with equanimity, which explains why she was qualified for such a sensitive job.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

4. It's so disillusioning

The way her husband grabbed his already-written autobiography and rushed it into a book deal as soon as his celebrity - well-earned, by the way - was born just left me thinking that something was off here, just a bit.

Then that Vanity Fair picture, all glamorous and precious, which they later said they regretted.

Then they show up at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, which I regarded as simply bad judgment and bad taste. I don't think it's wise to visit with the people who have tried to destroy you and your lives, do you?

And now a book deal? Oh, she hardly needs the money, and do you honestly think there's going to be anything in that book that will be of any interest? Do you know how tightly the CIA controls what former employees can write?

The Wilson-Plames, while I feel for them and admire what Joe Wilson has done to put it to Fuckface and Company, have, in my opinion, abandoned any pretense of dignity. And that cheapens them in my eyes, and it makes me sad.

[Cooley Hurd]

7. Maybe because Amb Wilson had something of import to say?

Perhaps he wanted to get the story out about what this cabal was all about?

Naw, it's all about greed... :eyes:

[OldLeftieLawyer]

10. Did you read his book?

I did.

It was very little about what had recently happened, but it was a long and pretty good yarn about his life.

The ms had been in his desk for a long time. He was just waiting for it to become marketable.

No, not greed.

Desire to be recognized. That's what drives a lot of people, you know.

[Cooley Hurd]

13. Yes, I did, and it was fascinating read about the US Diplomatic corps...

Your point being (besides smearing true patriots)? :shrug:

[OldLeftieLawyer]

16. At this point, my friend,

you don't want to understand my point.

So I'll just drop you right here in IgnoreLand.

[Cooley Hurd]

20. That's what some DUers do when they can't win an argument...

...they place their fingers in their ears.


Some lawyer YOU are...:eyes:

[robbedvoter]

36. Ha!Ha!Ha!

[Rhiannon12866]

66. Yikes! I remember this exchange!

But I don't blame you for this one. She had it coming, "my friend," indeed! :-(

[robbedvoter]

17. My desire is also for THEM to be recognized. They matter.

The media shuts us up - books are one way our POV gets out. Sorry if that bugs you, but if all good people write books, so much better for us.
You can try to get yours out too - I won't begrudge you one bit!

[OldLeftieLawyer]

29. Books?

HAHAHAHAHHA!!!!

Oh, that's funny.

I'm a published author under contract with HarperCollins. I know some about the business.

Yeah, they need a book to "get their story out."

Like it's not already out there and causing a series of major investigations.

Vanity, my friend, it's vanity, and that's all it is. Don't delude yourself.

[Cooley Hurd]

34. Name some of your titles, so I can look them up...

Oh, I forgot, you wussed out and put me on ignore. :eyes:

[Cooley Hurd]

44. Kick to expose what a goddamn phony you are...

:puke:

[robbedvoter]

40. Not selling much, huh? Thought I detected some envy there.

Notoriety helps sell books. Sometimes it's undeserved (criminals, movie starts). Sometimes it's pure justice - and the Wilsons are it. And yeah, her book will sell milliofold anything you might sell - DU-ers will buy it, libraries will stack it - and I am happy for them if it makes them rich as well.
Your grudge is beneath contempt! I thought only freepers blame others for their own inadequacies.

[robbedvoter]

11. Why should THEY hide? We need them up there -in public

It's safer for them, and good for us. These people (+ Fitz) may be the saviors of democracy.
It was Pentagon Papers Daniel Ellsberg's advice to all whistleblowers: BE VISIBLE! STAY PUBLIC!

Why do you think dignity = staying hidden?
I loved them there putting the criminals to shame! They are not the ones that didn't belong there.
You got it all upside down, my friend!

[OldLeftieLawyer]

14. Who said "HIDE"?

That's hardly what I wrote, and you really shouldn't put that kind of gloss on my words, because it perverts the whole import.

I never said dignity is staying hidden. Where did you get THAT?

Do you routinely socialize with people who have done things to ruin you?

Dignity. Look it up and think about it. I'm aching for someone heroic.

Consider Patrick Fitzgerald. Then compare.

Be visible? Stay public?

Oh, my goodness, you surely didn't get it.

Oh, well.

[robbedvoter]

23. Patrick Fitzegarld has a job. They finished theirs. Time to stick it

to the slanderers! In their face! I want them in their face - I want cameras on them INSTEAD of Bushco - I am happy to see them laughing at Colbert jokes and fail to get the source of your bile. These people are my heroes - even if some time passed since they had the courage to come out. It's the faces I want on magazine covers, TV - everywhere.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

27. Good for you

I still prefer dignity and distance. Their credibility is eroding daily, and I'm not sure they understand that.

As I said, that Vanity Fair picture was one of their big regrets. Too bad they didn't learn from it.

Ah, well, we might not have heroes - oh, and the Wilson-Plames have jobs, too, unless you don't count his consulting firm or her being a full-time mother, which I guess you don't - but at least we can hope for a reasonable facsimile thereof.

[robbedvoter]

30. I prefer them safe - therefore public.

You have a personal priblem, their credibility grows every day. Everything they said proves true every day.
Sorry that bothers you.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

32. I have no priblem,

and why must you bring up "personal" when I'm voicing an opinion?

Ah, yes. Weakness.

Well, OK, then - I got space right here in IgnoreLand.

Welcome.

[Cooley Hurd]

35. Welcome to Ignoreland!

There's an empty stool right next to me. I've got next round. :):hi:

[gkhouston]

38. so, I've noticed that people that have been married

for a zillion years often start to resemble each other... do you think the same sort of thing happens if you use the same avatar for a long time? :shrug:

[Cooley Hurd]

39. SNARF! Probably...

:thumbsup::hi:

[LandOLincoln]

47. So--you'd rather they both simply

collected unemployment instead?

[OldLeftieLawyer]

48. HAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!

You're not from Washington, are you?

You've never sold a book, either, have you?

You might want to read up on the Wilson/Plame family. Lots there that you don't know. Good folks, and very secure financially, going quite a ways back.

HAHAHAHHAHA!

That was funny. Thanks.

[LandOLincoln]

52. No, I'm not from D.C.

and I've never sold a book, either.

But then I've never tried to.

Unlike you, apparently.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

54. Me?

Naw, I've done all right in both venues, but I also never had to collect unemployment - like those poor Wilson/Plame folks.

Again, thanks for the laugh.

[titoresque]

53. I agree

I wouldn't break bread with those assholes.....unless I was there to feed them a bucket of their own shit like Colbert did.

[OldLeftieLawyer]

55. Ah...........

The now immortal "Colbert Exemption."

YES!

[CTyankee]

62. oh dear, how our idols have fallen

Do you think human nature had suddenly changed with the appearance of Joe and Valerie Wilson's fame? I don't.

Don't get me wrong. I like Joe, think he cute and all. She's a babe, etc, etc.

It's all Washington stuff. They live in a funny vacuum. I lived there for almost 10 years and couldn't wait to get out.

I think we should focus on the political situation and what actually happened to them. That's more important than whether they were at that dinner or not.

We'll see what happens...

[xultar]

6. 2008 elections. If she gets a deal b4 the end of the year...it can be out

in time to screw with the Rethugs.

[Dinger]

12. I Like That!

Damn, should have made that one of the choices.

[OKNancy]

18. Other - She has a story to tell and a lot of people

want to hear(read)it. Making money from it is just a side benefit.

[Cooley Hurd]

25. That's it - exactly!

Our national security has been compromised due to the petty horseshit of the Bush admin, and ANY INSIDER who has experienced it first-hand deserves to be heard!:thumbsup:

[robbedvoter]

28. Same "Other" here!

[troubleinwinter]

33. Yes, she has a story to tell. And I sure will buy it!

[jsamuel]

31. Other. She lost her job at the CIA, gotta make money somehow.

also, tell her side of the story

[KoKo]

37. Didn't vote.....She knows American Govt. is CORRUPT and she was

Trashed by the system she worked for. She and former Ambassador Wilson are caught up in a system that didn't listen to them.

She knows...the only way to be heard in these terrible times is to write a book and have your "Top Four Publlishers" smooth the way into the Mainstream Whore Media by "greasing the palms" of the Corporate Whore Publishing Industry!

They aren't DUMMIES! They know how the "SYSTEM WORKS."

Would I "hope" that things wouldn't be this way ...YES...but the "Cows outta the Barn and Corporate America Rules!"

Go get 'em Valerie...it's sad you and your hubbied are reduced to "Hawking your Wares" with the Whore Publishers/Whore Media...but GOOD FOR YOU GAL!!!!

[H2O Man]

42. I am glad she is

going to publish a book. Should be good. It will have some folks upset -- for example, I saw that Fox News was already trying to smear both Joe and Valerie. In my opinion, there is a way to measure people's inner being with this. I trust no one, no matter how hard they try to pretend they are someone on the side of justice in this case, when they use sly tactics to discredit Mr. and Ms. Wilson. It reminds me of what the OVP/WHIG did.

[spanone]

50. They fucked up her life and she lost her job, I suspect.

Plus, I believe she will educate the folks on how far these criminals will go, foregoing national security, to personally whack someone.

[Marie26]

60. I called it! nt

[madokie]

61. I would go other, probably the fact the income is gone from her job.

the previous one and plus it is a story that needs to be told by her more than anyone.

[Book Lover]

67. Other: the Book is just SOP for

those such as she, with "stories to tell". I hear Crown won the bidding war, FWIW...