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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:52 AM
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Slam Dunk Scooter


In my May 2 essay, I noted that Team Libby had filed two documents with the court on May 1. The first was a Response to Patrick Fitzgerald's Motion to have Judge Reggie Walton reconsider his April 5 Opinion concerning Ex Parte submissions under CIPA. I used the term "histrionics' to describe the defense attorneys' choice of words ("meaningless dictum," "equally bizarre," etc). I stated that I suspect that some of the efforts being made by Team Libby are in anticipation of grounds for appeals after he is convicted.

Yesterday, Judge Reggie Walton issued a Memorandum Opinion that favored Mr. Fitzgerald, and may have closed the door on some of the issues that Team Libby was hoping for. Christy Hardin Smith wrote a wonderful, concise description of the ruling on Firedoglake that I strongly recommend to people interested in the case. I have a few thoughts might also be some value in understanding the significance of Judge Walton's ruling.

There has been a strong disagreement between the prosecutor and the defense on the need to keep classified information secret. That is perhaps an understatement, considering that Mr. Libby's legal troubles are rooted in his spreading classified information, including a National Intelligence Estimate and the identity of a CI analyst with NOC status. More, Mr. Libby's attorneys have admitted, in response to Judge Walton's April 13 Order, to having potentially violated the court order to not attempt to try the case in the media. In their April 21 Response, they admitted to having discussed the case with a reporter, and to releasing a document that was not yet filed on the public docket.

Mr. Fitzgerald prefers to have the court decide if some of the debate on the issues of what documents should remain secret should be done "Ex Parte." That is when a proceeding comes from one side; in this case, it means that only Mr. Fitzgerald presents his side to Judge Walton.

Team Libby prefers to have each hearing on these issues to be "adversarial," meaning that it is more fully litigated with both the prosecutor and defense attorneys making their arguments to the judge.

In his April 5 ruling, Judge Walton had indicated that the future issues on classified information would be determined by adversarial hearings. Mr. Fitzgerald then made a motion that by its nature had to show: {1} a change in law; {2} new evidence; or {3} a need to correct a clear error that could produce an injustice. He also included a motion for clarification. Judge Walton, upon further examination of the CIPA law, found that Mr. Fitzgerald was correct in suggesting there was an error that could have been significant.

The CIPA law is the Classified Information Procedures Act. Section 4 allows the court to authorize Mr. Fitzgerald to "delete specified items of specified information from documents to be made available to the defendant through discovery ..." Mr. Fitzgerald can, in those instances, either "substitute a summary of the information," or "substitute a statement admitting relevant facts that the classified information would tend to prove."

The defense attorneys prefer the adversarial hearings in part because they allow for more information to be entered into the court proceedings that may be grounds for a future appeal. Keep in mind that one of the four top guns in Scooter's "dream team" is focused primarily on appellate issues. In general, the basis of an appeal has to be found in errors in the formal court proceedings. These are found in two areas: {1} the wrongful admission of evidence; or {2} the improper refusal to allow evidence to be admitted.

Judge Walton noted, "The defendants will no doubt continue to object to this procedure. The Court notes, however, that this process actually places the defendant in a stronger position then he otherwise would be. If this Court did not amend its April 5, 2006 Opinion, the government, not the Court, would be tasked with independently determining the materiality of certain classified information. Here, the Court, as it must under CIPA, will be the final arbiter of such determinations."

I think that this ruling should further help ease the concerns of liberals and progressives that Judge Walton would be prone to helping Scooter Libby by interpreting the law in a way that handcuffed Mr. Fitzgerald. Instead, we see that the noose is tightening on the Team Libby defense strategy. Mr. Fitzgerald's case is beginning to look like, if you will excuse the expression, a "slam dunk."

Many liberals and progressives continue to have serious questions about Judge Walton's actions in the Sibel Edmonds' case. As a card-carrying member of the ACLU, I am also concerned about the amount of government secrecy. However, I recognize that there are times when the federal courts will make rulings that are not in favor of progressive movements in America.

I strongly recommend that people interested in previous cases that show the legal and political realities of the American constitutional system in cases where some similar issues are involved, read two books by Alan Westin of Columbia College. The first is "The Anatomy of a Constitutional Law Case," (Macmillan, 1958), which examines the fascinating "Steel Seizure" case of 1952. The second, which I think is more interesting, is "The Trial of Martin Luther King," by Westin and Barry Mahoney (Thomas Crowell Co., 1974). It is a study of the landmark Birmingham case, in which the US Supreme Court ruled against King. It is, in my opinion, worth reading in consideration of the Sibel Edmonds case.

The Libby case, and the upcoming Rove case, will perhaps serve for future books as important in understanding how the federal courts provide a setting for the struggles for progressive social change.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:59 AM
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1. Thanks for the summary.
That is an awful lot to absorb this morning!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:30 AM
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5. It is.
And soon, there will be two cases! Maybe DU will benefit from a Plame forum.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:04 AM
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11. That is probable not possible.
But, I suggested on a stop the bleeding thread this morning that it would be nice to have a daily "Plame" discussion thread. I noted that I have been going to other blogs for Plame reading and discussion.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:03 AM
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2. "equally bizarre," Says It For Me
The entire case from the Team Libby side has an eerie feel to it, like the left hand doesn't know what the right is doing. However you make sense of that by explaining that they are putting forward two defenses, one for the actual now and one for the future when prisoner Libby is looking for a way out. I do wonder, and have no way of knowing, if this dual, tandem approach is leaching from the effectiveness of the case in main. Surely, at some point the judge will tire of some of the nonsense put forth by Team Libby?

*shadow government*
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:13 AM
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3. It's interesting.
I think that I've indicated that while I know Scooter is guilty as sin -- and I hope he will face more charges before this is all over -- I admire three of his attorneys. That is different than in the upcoming trial of Karl Rove; I think Luskin is a weasal, and has earned our contempt.

Regarding the tactics of Team Libby .... I'm reminded of my late father, who used to say that a person who tells the truth often is restricted in ways that a liar is not: the person who is honest has but one story to tell, while the liar has dozens of options. However, my father said, the liar must be able to keep track of all his lies, because he faces the risk of an honest man keeping track of the truth.

I said that to say this: Libby and his attorneys have less than a dozen options, because an honest man is keeping track .... He can: (a) stick to his lies; (b) attack those telling the truth in an attempt to distract the jury; (c) pray for a error in the proceedings that allows for an appeal; or (d) channel Groucho Marx, and deny everything he said, because everything he said was a lie, and everything he denies is a lie, too.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:29 AM
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4. (d) channel Groucho Marx
Strikes me as his best choice! Appreciate such a good answer.

*shadow government*
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:32 AM
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6. Your father was a very wise man.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:00 AM
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9. I saw that Tiger Woods' father
died, and was thinking about my Dad. I wish that he were here to discuss this administration. He was of the generation that experienced FDR. He would tell me about how Leland Olds was attacked, not unlike Joseph Wilson, for telling the truth at a time that many forces of greed didn't want the truth to be told. I remember one of his favorite FDR quotes, from 1936:

"I should like to have it said of my first administration that in it the forces of selfishness and lust for power met their match. I should like to have it said of my second administration that in it these forces met their master."

I'm confident that my father would have used that quote in reference to the administration meeting Mr. Fitzgerald.
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:57 AM
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8. Great post...
What do you think about the unusual quiet on the Luskin front right now.

2 days and no spin?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:01 AM
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10. To apply an old
boxing saying, "it's very hard to defend yourself when you've just had the wind knocked out of you."
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:07 AM
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12. I have my doubts about Luskin being around for the defense.
He may have some troubles of his own.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:39 AM
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17. Luskin's stingingly persona is Karl Rove's "Black Fate" IMO
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 11:44 AM
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20. What about option (e)...
...he could channel Harpo Marx and take the 5th.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 12:46 PM
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21. There Is Also The Not Yet Considered Option F
Make a deal! Or, the even less considered Option G - The plead guilty and pay for your crime, while on your knees begging for forgiveness and understanding, option.

*shadow government*
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 02:37 PM
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22. I would not be surprised
if after Thanksgiving, Scooter makes a deal. (Probably the OVP wishes he would, sooner.)
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:17 AM
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15. "Surely, at some point the judge will tire of some of the nonsense ..."
We witnessed Judge Walton's weariness already, for instance:

Walton said Thursday he did not need to in the law to reject the claim by Libby’s defense team. The judge said there is no question the attorney general can delegate any of his functions.


In judge speak, the "did not need to ‘look far’" bit means that he’s telling Team Libby to stop wasting his time with close to frivolous bullshit motions. In other words, "thwap upside the head for wasting my valuable judge time and don’t do it again."

And to all those folks who told me of the dismissal motion, I say … well, I’m too much of a lady to say it. But it looks like Walton agreed that it was fairly clear cut.

From the typically outstanding writings of Christy Hardin Smith at firedoglake:

http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/27/judge-walton-shoots-down-libbys-dismissal-hail-mary


Team Libby is doing its job, as best they can given the bucket of slime they're attempting to defend - but, Judge Walton and Mr. Fitzgerald keep kicking the bucket all over their case.


Peace.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 11:18 AM
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19. I Did So Love That Walton Quote
And both Christy and Jane do a terrific job of analysis of the rulings and putting them in layman's terms. I would also bring up the matter of unseen minds and fingers regarding Team Libby. FDL often brings up how Barbra Comstock is the unseen spectre in this matter. And while she is one of the people heading up his defense fund, her primary interest is keeping Cheney indictment free. Legal matters aside, this keeps Scootie pie on a very short leash and should cause him to lose the few minutes of sleep he still gets at night.

*shadow government*
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 09:44 AM
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7. Thanks, H2O Man, for this
Your threads on this are consistently both excellent in your analysis and their educational content.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:07 AM
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13. "help ease the concerns of liberals and progressives that Judge Walton .."
... would be prone to helping Scooter Libby by interpreting the law in a way that handcuffed Mr. Fitzgerald. Instead, we see that the noose is tightening on the Team Libby defense strategy."

Agree.

Another solid post, H2O Man!


Never Forget: George W. Bush willfully violated National Security to cover-up his willful launch of a war of aggression and illegal occupation of Iraq.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:12 AM
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14. Another great informational post, H2O Man!
I truly believe Judge Walton realizes that working with the Patrick J. Fitzgerald is a plus. And vice-versa with Patrick J. Fitzgerald working with Judge Walton.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:20 AM
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16. kick n/t
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 11:13 AM
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18. Nothing but net.
The notion of defending yourself while having one eye on future causes for appeal sounds a little like checking the clock and glancing at the judge while boxing: not a good idea.

Thanks for another great post!
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 03:10 PM
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23. Thank you
Edited on Thu May-04-06 03:15 PM by stop the bleeding
and Kick!

No new filings as of 04:15pm EST
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 04:12 PM
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24. Thank you for another thoughtful and insightful essay, H2O Man.
:applause: The idea that they have their eyes on an appeal I bodes well for us, I believe. That seems like such a split focus, and unless I'm reading too much into this, quite damning.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 04:16 PM
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25. Ted Wells, William Jeffress,
and Joseph Tate are all very intelligent men. They surely know what the most likely outcome of going to trial will be -- convictions on all counts. Judge Walton is conservative; he will give Libby a longer sentence than he would have gotten with a plea.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 04:18 PM
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26. I always enjoy your well informed posts. rec'd
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 05:06 PM
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27. Excellent thread, as always!
And my sincere thanks to everyone who has helped to gather the Libby papers/filings/docs (stop the bleeding, thanks! :) )You deserve a round of applause!! :applause:

After reading this article, esp the part about the 'histrionics', I have to wonder - do you think Libby is the one that's writing that stuff? It seems so... desperate! LOL I know that only a fool represents himself, but... :evilgrin:
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 05:27 PM
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28. Well, Libby is a lawyer, so it's possible he wants to use his legal
skills to defend himself.

Am I reading too much into Fitzgerald's motion to let the court, not the government decide on issues of classified material? I know the judge agreed with him. But was this important because Fitzgerald trusts the court more than he does this government, who have so much to lose as these trials go forward?

I agree, Spuddonna, regarding those who are gathering the docs in one place. Thanks to all of them, especially Stop the Bleeding. I know it was a lot of work, and we appreciate it. :-)

And thanks to H2O Man for another great essay, breaking down the often confusing legal filings so that we can understand them better.

It's difficult enough keeping up with Libby's pre-trial motions, (which are a bonus, imo, because I thought we would have to wait until 2007 to learn what we have already from this one indictment. But it's going to be really difficult when we have Rove and Libby to keep track of.

I still wonder about Fitzgerald's statement that he won't be using Rove or Hadley as witnesses in Libby's trial. Could that mean both will be indicted soon?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 05:33 PM
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29. Team Libby
brought in someone who specializes in the art of appealing a conviction. This is, of course, common, especially for "dream teams." And Team Libby is a more talented collection of quality lawyers than the team Mr. Simpson had. Scooter practiced a different area of the law, and is smart enough to stay way away from trying to influence these documents. Rather, it is a result of human nature -- some people are just less atractive personality-wise than others. It can show up in their paper work.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 11:47 PM
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33. You're probably right...
I just watched "Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House" and there's a scene where the architect shows Cary Grant and Myrna Loy the blueprint for their new house, and they start doodling their 'improvements' all over it.

I had this image of Libby hanging over his lawyers shoulders, doodling his comments onto their papers stuck in my head! :7

But you're probably right. He's a very smart, calculating type. I doubt he'd do something like that...

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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:04 AM
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34. Do you think it is the appeal attorney who is responsible then? I do not
know much about the attorneys, but I did read that they are the best ~ I imagine being that they are intelligent, they know the chances of a conviction are very high.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 11:39 PM
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32. I can barely keep up with this case!
But I'm sure I'll cope when Rove is indicted! :evilgrin:

I have no clue on the witness issue... I admit I haven't had time to read as much lately as I have in the past few weeks. I do remember people speculating on whether Rice would be dragged into this, since Hadley reported to her...
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splat@14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 07:48 PM
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30. Thx O'H20man.
Your blog is one of my "favorites".

It seems more than obvious that certainly more than Libby are involved and some number less are indictable. Whatever that number is, adding Rove would still seem to leave it short. Nothing to base this one except what i've read and personal opinion so I'll ask for yours; Do you think it possible that Cheney or Bush may be indictable over this? Even past the time of this administration.

Forgive the speculative question, I just feel that, like Watergate, there's more here than we see and you have done a wonderful job of tracking this "affair"
Thx!
Splat!
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 08:07 PM
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31. What does anyone here think the chances are that Fitz is going
to idict everyone that is going to be indicted in his next round??

And...

What do you think the chances are that Rove made a deal back in October 05 or that has been in the works since then??

I get so schitzo with this case. One minute I think this is happening and the next minute I think this other thing could be happening.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 12:11 AM
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35. That's a good question ~ I imagine if Fitzgerald thinks he has all
the information he needs to indict those he believes committed crimes, he will do so.

But what if he believes there is more he can learn from some of the suspects? He might want to frighten them into talking by indicting people one at a time, or maybe two.

I wonder if Andrew Card could be indicted this time and maybe that's why he resigned?

I think Hadley is a possibility also, unless he makes a deal.

Rove, Hadley and Andrew Card! If that happened, it would be a bombshell that even the MSM could not ignore. As each one is indicted and/or convicted, they become weaker and weaker. Three together would be a huge blow.

If Fitzgerald has testimony about Cheney from someone other than Libby, then I think he too could be indicted.
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