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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:00 PM Original message |
Some aspect of illlegal immigration not being discussed.... |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. People with those fears can go get screwed, as far as I'm concerned |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. You didn't read the post |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Read it. Considered it. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
26. On the contrary, I read every word of it |
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El Fuego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 07:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
47. You're just not the Oppressed Flavor of the Month |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 07:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
51. So, it makes no difference to you what color that person's skin is? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
3. Some people get scared when black people move in too. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. It's not a race issue, it's an economic issue. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Bullshit. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Well, after such a detailed rebuttal, I've changed my mind. Thanks! |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. You mean like your wonderful argument... |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. Any residents with no/low income are bad for a neighborhood. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Ah, so it's not racism, it's classism. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. No, it's simple economics. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. "poor people are bad for neighborhoods" isn't classist? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. No, it's economic fact. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-02-06 12:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
64. No, it's classism. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. How exactly do these low income residents afford to live in these |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. I agree |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 07:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
52. Not so... |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 09:16 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. The OP referred to a good neighborhood being brought DOWN |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
44. It never is.... |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 07:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. It's not racism when the color of their skin doesn't matter. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 07:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
50. I'm in a gated community |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 09:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. No, I say that people who worked hard to get what they have deserve |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-02-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. I think that's the point |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
5. Racist? It depends |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 07:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
53. I don't care where they come from or what color their skin is |
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shenmue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think you're right |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
7. Clearly the answer is to segregate the neighborhoods. |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Agreed. Americans in America, Mexicans in Mexico. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. The OP didn't say illegals as far as the "scary neighborhood invaders" |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I took "illegal" as implied, since the topic was "illegal immigration"... |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. How do these people know that these Mexicans are illegal? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
33. Maybe that's a question for the OP...it's not my neighborhood. |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:44 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Yet you were good enough to assume they were illegal |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. In light of "illegal immigration" in the subject line, I don't feel that's |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 07:33 PM Response to Reply #14 |
55. I'm so sick of all the nit picking! |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 09:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. So you think the people in question, walked up to these Mexicans and asked |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-02-06 11:16 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. That's your opinion |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. The next step: Yuppies move into the neighborhood.... |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
15. I wish they were marching for better wages - not amnesty |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. They ARE |
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Kashka-Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 11:30 AM Response to Reply #29 |
67. I see what youre getting at and think some sort of guest worker program |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
19. They have been a wonderful addition in the neighborhood |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
20. You are still blaming the wrong people. |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:24 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I blamed no one and specifically stated that the immigrants |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 06:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
45. Yes, I read your post and you said they weren't to blame |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
22. Are you trying to say that... |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Very well could be! |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
23. It is amazing - this is a board full of saints! |
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Kashka-Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. well, I read it and got what you were getting at |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. How is supporting the rights of undocumented workers |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 05:57 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Undocumented workers |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 10:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
61. Oh, please. Make up your mind. Are you upset about |
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Kashka-Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 11:15 AM Response to Reply #36 |
66. how? |
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Jim Warren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 06:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. Not saints |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 07:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
46. None of us are saints, but many of us |
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Sapere aude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
27. What you have described is the reality of life here. It isn't going to go |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. Exactly. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
28. Lived in mixed neighborhoods all my life |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 07:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
54. Agree |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
40. There certainly is a cultural clash here, and it's very interesting |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 07:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. Nasty generalizations |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 09:03 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. Um, my family is Salvadoran and we have been in Mexico |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 09:19 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Um, were you in Mexico illegally? |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-02-06 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
65. Speaking out against illegal immigration |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 01:17 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Word. |
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brindis_desala (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
68. The problem with this post is that you are conflating two separate |
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adwon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
69. Just a thought |
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