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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:34 PM
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Poll question: Death penalty for Al-Qaeda conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui ?
Edited on Mon Apr-24-06 12:58 PM by IChing
Prosecution says Moussaoui does not belong 'on this good Earth'


ALEXANDRIA, United States (AFP) - Prosecutors demanded the death penalty for Al-Qaeda conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui but the defence told jurors Moussaoui was "baiting" them to make him a September 11 martyr.

Launching closing arguments before the jury retires to consider the Frenchman's fate, prosecutor David Raskin said: "There is no place on this good Earth for Zacarias Mousaoui.

"He is delighted that he and Al-Qaeda murdered 2,972 innocent people on September 11."

Raskin highlighted the lack of remorse shown by Moussaoui during the six week trial and added: "It is time to put an end to his hatred and venom ... it is time to sentence Zacarias Moussaoui to death."..........snip (is there no irony in that statement?)


http://www.afp.com/english/news/stories/060424163849.dbf4n59r.html
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:39 PM
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1. A fate worse than death: Life in prison with no parole
Part of me really wonders is this man is insane (schizophrenia ...). As much as I deplore his "suicide attacker wanna be" role; I have real concerns r/t to his sanity.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:42 PM
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2. he is insane and prosecution is with holding info he is lying about it all
or is deluded and what he is saying IS NOT REAL.. it is a Delusion:tinfoilhat:
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:46 PM
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5. My understanding is that he has a strong ...
... familial history of psychosis (schizo).

I have no doubt that the government wants to convict someone for the heinous acts of 9/11 ... He's the only one they've got so it is no surprise that they would declare him sane (w/out regard to reality)
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 01:34 PM
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22. And he is of so little value that killing him is no loss.
They have other high level al qaeda prisoners who they aren't even going to bring to trial it seems, let alone execute. If this idiot were of any real value at all he would be in some rendition center getting his daily torture.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 09:37 PM
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27. I wouldn't expect him to survive very long
Unless he was put into solitary confinement, I would expect to see him dead in prison within a year. Someone will put a shiv in his back, and it will most likely be another prisoner.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:43 PM
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3. He didn't actually
Edited on Mon Apr-24-06 12:45 PM by CJCRANE
murder anyone.

Maybe Colleen Rowley and the other FBI fields workers could've prevented or reduced 9/11 if the FBI higher-ups had listened to them.

On edit: IMO he should be locked up for his own and the public safety due to his mental health. But taking the blame for 9/11? No.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:44 PM
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4. What the hell is his actual crime, anyway?
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:46 PM
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6. It seems that he got pleasure from watching people die on 9/11.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:47 PM
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8. A trophy conviction for the BFEE, thay can't convict anyone else
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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:49 PM
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10. A thought crime is his crime
He thought about joining in on the 9/11 terrorist acts, thought about how he could say he was the "5th plane" and thought about how to tie his name into the terrorism that we experienced.

He is a psychiatrist's wet dream of scheophrenia (?).
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:54 PM
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16. schizophrenia. And, yeah, from what I can tell, he's a nutcase that didn't
really commit any crime other than undergo training, I reckon, at an Al Qaeda camp.

Just deport his arse. Why the hell should my tax dollars go to keep this nutcase housed and fed for the rest of his life?

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:53 PM
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14. He approved of the 911 attacks, thought crime
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:54 PM
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17. That is what I don't understand
Is he "guilty" of associating with bad people?

Is he "guilty" of hating the US and wishing to bring harm to her citizens?

Are either of the above mentioned crimes? :shrug: I don't understand.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:47 PM
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7. Don't make a martyr out of him
Fundamentalist Islam is driven by martyrs
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:49 PM
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9. Agreed...and the fact that he may be mentally ill...will make him
more of martyr.....

This administration has no clue what the fallout will be if they execute this guy....Osama is just waiting to use him and his name.....as a holy warrior....
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:50 PM
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12. I know, why martyr him unless we want more killing
That's the problem, *'s popularity is linked to killing & destruction. Bush likes death.

The jury will probably do the stupid thing.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:50 PM
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11. Something about this trial just seems bogus to me
I don't believe anybody really believes that this nut job was capable of having anything to do with the planning of the 9/11 attacks. And he couldn't have anythin to do with carrying them out since he was in jail at the time. So what's the point of frying him? To scare other potential suicide bombers? To show the public how tough on terra they are? The more he opens his mouth the more obvious it is that he is either crazy or a mental defective. And it appears the public reaction to the whole thing is a big yawn.
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gandalf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:52 PM
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13. You should not believe everything
than you read in the papers.

"Al-Qaeda conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui" ???
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:53 PM
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15. ( on edit) Added a new vote sorry for the delay n/t
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:54 PM
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18. Add a vote option for Deportation and I'll vote.
;)

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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 12:57 PM
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19. OK n/t
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 01:13 PM
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20. "It is time to put an end to his hatred and venom ...
DEFINITELY! Bush has been allowed ot spew his bigotry and perpetrate his war crimes long enough!!!

OOPS, you mean MOUSSAOUI, don't you?

Naw. Any reasoning person doesn't give two shits about this clown. Why are we wasting enough money to fund a series of inner city health clinics even having a TRIAL on the PENALTY??? Just throw him in jail. Save a buck.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 01:27 PM
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21. This guy did little if anything criminal.
At worse he conspired to be available for some future al qaeda mission. He was simply not involved in the 9-11 attacks. Life in prison, let alone the death penalty, seems a bit out of proportion to acts committed.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 03:10 PM
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23. Guilty for being in the wrong place at the wrong time
The only right thing to do is to send this man home. France might be a more humane place than the cell in Alexandria, Virginia, but in the unlikely event he is deported to France, he might have to look after his poor, and I do mean poor, old mother. She has been driven mad by the mad insanity of this sham kangaroo cout trial. His presence might be able to help her recover.

You can convict a man for doing something he didn't do to make the scared uniformed citizens feel better, but it doesn't make it right.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 03:13 PM
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24. The Bible doesn't say 'sometimes'
it says 'thou shalt not kill' it leaves no exemptions, no asteriks, nada
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 08:54 PM
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25. for the evening crowd n/t
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 09:02 PM
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26. Deportation
The 9/11 story is so confused that I'm not even sure about the major ideas, much less this. But we know he means no good will on the U.S.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 09:40 PM
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28. I don't believe this guy did anything to warrant the Death Penalty.
I think he's a fringer and a grandstanding liar. Life in prison should suffice in this case.
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