Hey, God, why are you letting the polar bears die?

[mtnsnake]

WTF do they have to do with your failed experiment on Adam and Eve?

Messin' with humans I can understand, but leave the animals out of this, will ya. How about you at least start freezing up the polar ice caps again. The bears had nothing to do with this, so you might wanna get to work on the Arctic one first. thanks

[mikita]

1. agreed n/t

[Beaverhausen]

How about an article for those who don't know this is happening

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Science/story?id=1407585

By BILL BLAKEMORE

Dec. 15, 2005 -- NASA has just announced that for the fourth year in a row, it has recorded the hottest annual global temperatures since reliable records started in the late 1800s.

This year, 2005, tied for the hottest year ever with 1998 — and 1998 was "an El Niño of the Century year — and El Niños always make it hotter. If this had been an El Niño year, it would surely have been the hottest year of all," Dr. James Hansen, NASA earth sciences director, told ABC News.

As is well-known by now, NASA reported at summer's end that, over the last 30 years, the Arctic's summer sea ice cover had melted back 30 percent. As a number of scientists have calculated, it could be completely gone long before the end of the century.

That's why three environmental groups have filed suit against the U.S. government to get the polar bear listed as an endangered species.

Drowning Polar Bears

The polar bear's Latin name is Ursus maritimus — which means "sea bear" — because it is almost entirely dependent on the sea ice for its food. It spends almost all its time roaming the frozen sea surface hunting its favorite sustenance — the seal — and training its cubs to do the same. On land, polar bears are clumsy hunters so their existence is threatened as the Arctic keeps melting. Already, field researchers have reported disruptions in the polar bears' well-being — a growing number of females now failing to gain enough weight during the summer to be able to breed.

A survey by the U.S. Mineral Management Service has recorded elevated numbers of polar bears drowning. Some have been found swimming far out in the warming Arctic sea as the sea ice pulls back farther from land and the bears try to swim to shore.

MORE AT THE LINK

[mtnsnake]

31. Yeah, I had heard how some of them are exhausting themselves & drowning

because of what's going on with how much further they try to swim now due to the changes in distances brought on by all the warming. It's really sad to think of one of these majestic creatures trying to get back and not making it all the way and then struggling until it loses all strength. It also makes me really pissed off at that miserable excuse of a president we have and how he couldn't give a shit about any of it.

Thank you for posting this article.

[rodeodance]

2. To its credit, Cnn has been running a good story on this past 2 wks or so.

[rodeodance]

16. cnn special here:

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2005/changing.earth/

Scientists may argue over climate change, but for some, global warming is already changing their lives.

• Gallery: Climate change
• Audio Slide Show: Kivalina, Alaska | Tuvalu
• CNN Presents: Melting Point

[Deep13]

3. They're sinful, perverted polar bears.

[BlueEyedSon]

13. Nah, just DEMOCRAT polar bears!

[roguevalley]

45. I can't watch stuff about what is going on up here now. Bears are

out early and they are hungry. Pray for all the animals. They are helpless against the fucked up human race.

[givemebackmycountry]

4. Clearly...

God hates Polar Bears.
Which is puzzling.

You think GOD would have a hard on for Black or Brown Bears.
Not the white, polar bears.

[Karenca]

5. .........

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Fierce]

6. God had little to do with it.

We, however, have quite a lot to answer for.

[bdamomma]

9. God has nothing to do with this

mankind is it's own worst enemy. damn george bush, he plays a big part in this. not signing the Kyoto protocol. this guy is a menace to the world.

[leftyladyfrommo]

7. Boy do I agree with you on that one.

[wtmusic]

8. Ask Fred -- it's because of the sins of America's homosexuals nt

[SteppingRazor]

10. The arctic one first? But think of the penguins!!

If he does the arctic one first, they're doomed! Doomed I tell you! Do you really want to make this guy cry:

[patrice]

11. Amen.

[Speck Tater]

12. Hey God, why did you let the dinosaurs die?

Life would be so much more interesting if T-Rex were still roaming the street of New York.

In our short lifespan as humans we don't see much in the way of global change, but global change is the only constant. The climate has been much colder than it is now, and the climate has been much hotter than it is now. Florida was once under water, and will be under water again, and then dry again, and then under water again. It just keeps going on and on.

Animals go extinct and new animals evolve. Expecting that to change just because we humans are here to observe it it shear folly. Change is inevitable, and will go on, with or without man's interference. That's just the way it is.

[mtnsnake]

17. Climatic change by nature is 1 thing, but when it's by man it's disgusting

and unnecessary. If a volcano blows up on its own and changes the scheme of things, I can accept that, but when the polar ice caps start melting because of our greed and ignorance, that's unacceptable. When certain people, like Bush for example, refuse to acknowledge what's happening and refuse to do something about it, then that's a fucking crime of the highest magnitude.

[DoYouEverWonder]

38. NW Colorado

had palm trees 60,000 million years ago.

Climate changes.

It's just that it's changing a lot faster all of a sudden.

[Marie26]

14. I don't think it's God's fault.

He'd probably just tell us to stop letting the polar bears die.

[The2ndWheel]

15. Satan, not God

Come on, what better cover than the arctic? This is a brilliant plan. Satan gets all these polar bears to die because he's funny that way, gets the environmentalists to cry about the poor polar bear, and nobody likes environmentalists, so then that's one less species we have to worry about when we finally have complete control of the Earth, and all who dwell on it.

Wait, that's what God said we should do. Son of a...they're working together. Oh, you clever supernatural entities. Well played.

[KittyWampus]

18. Why are you supposing God is a personality akin to your limited sense

of personhood?

Seems like a rather infantile view of how Unlimited Conscious Energy operates...

[mtnsnake]

19. If I really thought that, I wouldn't be talking to him that way. lol

Anyway, I do remember many years ago in catholic religious instructions how they said something like he created man in his own image or something to that effect.

I would have thought from the tone of my OP that you'd realize that I don't buy into what you think I did.

[KittyWampus]

27. I got your tone very well and am questioning why you think "God" is a

person in the same manner as you are a person.

You have kindly explained that your impressions stem from Catholic dogma.

My poorly worded reply was an attempt to point out that you can abandon the Catholic conception of what "God" is (a personality) without abandoning the concept of "God" entirely.

People seem to have a very hard time thinking of God without imagining a Person or Being.

It's a great thought experiment to consider what God could be if not a person!

From mine own meditations it seems God in Conscious Energy and primarily expressed through Universal Principles (like Gravity).

Obviously I took your OP WAY more seriously then you intended.

[mtnsnake]

30. See post #20

especially the part about irony and satire. No problem, though, and I do find your input of interest.

Peace

[Goblinmonger]

20. Holy crap

You might want to look up irony and satire. I bet you don't get a lot of things that are funny if you missed this one.

[mtnsnake]

24. Thank you!

:toast:

[NervousRex]

25. I hope that...

Mr.(Ms.) U.C. Energy is pleased that you capitalized his/her name. Is it infantile to think that such a being gives a shit about proper English grammar/punctuation/spelling rules?

[KittyWampus]

26. again, why personalize Universal Energy & Consciousness?

YOU are the one inserting "being" and implying god as person.

I am emphatically against it.

[Pacifist Patriot]

33. Why capitalize it?

Just curious. :)

[NervousRex]

41. We'll never get an answer....n/t

[NervousRex]

36. Then why capitalize?

....in English grammar it means something to do so... It is you who choose that form. I was merely pointing it out. U.E.& C.(sic) is your fantasy, and you are entitled to it. Capitalizing it is your way of personalizing it as something that requires such a grammatical acknowledgement. Who are you to define the way the U.C.& E. shall be referenced...if at all?

[The Stranger]

21. K&R

[The Revolution]

22. Because bears are Godless killing machines!

As least that's what I heard.

[Coyote_Bandit]

23. Can't blame "God" for this one

People have brains that they can use and the ability to choose their actions. The likely environmental consequences of our energy consumption patterns have been understood for some time now. But our behavior patterns largely remained unchanged.

Whatever you think of God (or don't, as the case may be), the polar bears are dying because of the behavior of the people on this planet. God gets a pass on this one. Put the responsibility where it belongs.

[Pacifist Patriot]

34. See post 20

[AllieB]

28. I saw a scientist who said he had never seen a drowned polar bear

until 2 years ago, and this guy has been studying them for 30 years. :cry:

[Beaverhausen]

29. Unbelievable

It will be drowning people soon if we don't do something.

Oh yeah, there are people who drowned from global warming. (see: Katrina)

[BrklynLiberal]

32. A lot of innocent creatures will suffer due to man's carelessness.

[Pacifist Patriot]

35. I think I'd amend you statement to "all" rather than "a lot of"

I can't think of any place that will be immune to our muck ups.

[BrklynLiberal]

40. You are right. Thank you for the correction.

:thumbsup:

[mtnsnake]

43. Very true, Brklyn, & ditto to what Pacifist Patriot said, too

We all know that this isn't the first time that man has screwed up nature and ended up bringing different species to extinction or to the brink of extinction. We've already lost countless species of animals due to our lack of concern and greed.

Having said that, the plight of the polar bears epitomizes just how far overboard we've gone this time by refusing to acknowledge what scientists have been trying to tell us all along. The polar ice caps are melting....fast. We're not talking an act of nature that normally takes thousands or millions of years to take place. We're talking decades, and that is downright scary. Things are changing drastically as we speak, and here we've got a drastically inept president who doesn't know his ass from a melting ice cap!

[Pacifist Patriot]

37. *sigh* Sadly....

your satiric irony (ironic satire?) would go sailing over my fundie relatives' heads. In fact it might leave them scratching their heads. But then they'd probably just shrug and figure that it's all part of Jesus' plan so why bother their little heads with it.

[Sequoia]

39. Don't blame God for man's folly.

[AuntiBush]

42. God is not Allowing this..

It's the absence of God in a humans soul that allows this sort of thing to happen. Not God.

Think about it. Faux-Christian rhetoric to rev-up a base, any base at that. Been done for many a centuries, historically.

And still people fall for it. Thankfully though, not many any more. It helps to own and control mass media. SADLY!

[Miss Chybil]

44. Why'd God let the dinosaurs die?

He didn't. They just did. Shit happens. Of course, we're making some shit happen, (like melting the ice caps by contributing to greenhouse gasses and killing the polar bears and other Artic wildlife), but shit happened before we ever existed and shit will keep on happening long after we're gone. The earth has frozen over and melted many times. It will right itself in its own time.

[mtnsnake]

46. Yes, but because shit happend before we existed, it doesnt justify mankind

causing future shit to happen DESPITE nature.

What nature might do in a million years, mankind might be doing over the course of a hundred or so, maybe less.

As to the dinosaurs, I can accept that they met their demise naturally by way of a huge meteorite or whatever it was, but I can't accept what man is doing to our planet through total neglect and greed. It just ain't natural, and we should at least TRY to do more about it. Contributing to the entire mess, we have this arrogant imbecile named Bush who doesn't give a rat's ass about majestic animals or any animals for that matter. He wouldn't care if there was an animal or plant left on this planet as long as he and his greedy ilk could live out their pathetic lives in comfort.