I've been hosed by nascar...

[catnhatnh]

they ran a race Saturday night in Phoenix that ended shortly after midnight.Many of us who live on the DU board and like go-fast turn left cars arrange small parts of our lives around these events...that means that normally, I expect a race on sunday afternoon.....it normally brings out pizza buffet stuff or taco bar stuff with toppings galore...But instead my bro and I sat up and watched last nights event and scored our 10 person pool...Mom won because some people ran out of gas...so the 79 year old lady beat us-but my point is that you can be many things and still democratic

[TomInTib]

1. Well...I am guessing that you still have most of your teeth, so that

plus the democratic tendencies make you a slightly less than typical NASCAR fan. Do NASCARs have air conditioning? If not, I suspect this might be a good reason for a sundown race in Phoenix.

Our washer and dryer are out on our verandah and I vote dem too.

[Renew Deal]

3. Since when was Nascar an arm of the RNC?

Most of the tracks are in red states, but not all. There are tracks in NH, NY, CA, PA, IL (IIRC), as well as Virginia which is borderline. I am a NASCAR fan and so are some of my other Dem friends. I am not the biggest fan, but I am familiar with some of the drivers and tracks.

[TomInTib]

11. See my reply to #4

Thanks

[RB TexLa]

14. I'm waiting to see how many people the Staten Island track is going to

hold.

[Renew Deal]

15. There are rumors on

SI, the Meadowlands and Long Island. SI would be on the bottom of my list. It is completely inaccessible. Is SI a lock?

[RB TexLa]

16. The people who own the land are close to the France family

I'd say that makes it pretty close to a lock. Plus they really want to have the track/race in NYC.

[napi21]

4. Awe comeon now, that's a very unfair charachterization of a

NASCAR fan! I'm sure, many years ago, it may have been true. After al, NASCAR was born from the tallents of the white lightening runners, but that's long gone.

[TomInTib]

10. That was a joke

from my girlfriend.

I am a huge NASCAR fan.

I have been since the days of Cale Yarborough and King Richard Petty.

I also have a washer and dryer on our veranda overlooking SF Bay (really).

And NASCAR people make huge fun of one another. I was at a NASCAR licensing seminar where Terry Bradshaw was the keynote speaker making horrendous fun of the fans.

[jmowreader]

5. They run night races for the TV ratings

The Southern 500 was run at Darlington, South Carolina, on Labor Day weekend for decades. It always started at 1pm...and in those cars, not only are they not air conditioned, the exhaust pipe is under your seat. The 200-pound Dale Earnhardt usually weighed 180 at the end of the Southern 500 due to water weight, and I remember one Southern 500 that Ricky Rudd won...they had to drag him out of the car by the epaulets on his firesuit and he celebrated his victory by sitting on his ass, leaning up against the car and chugging water as fast as he could.

They do a certain number of races in prime time because people will watch night races on TV; the cars under the lights are fun to watch. They'd be even more fun if they'd put taillights on them; imagine the long red streaks behind all the cars.

[napi21]

2. I agree! I love the races, and although I don't have much chance

to go, I often watch on TV.

[JesterCS]

6. *shrug*

I still goto a few races at the Kentucky Motor Speedway and watch almost every race on TV ( except roadcourses and shorttrack, yuck )

But im no repub. And yes I have all my teeth lol

[dhill926]

7. yepster...

we watch racing while drinking chardonnay on a Sunday afternoon. And go to the the Brickyard 400 every year. It's like hockey, live it's unbelievable. A waste of natural resouurces to be sure, but shit, ya gotta have some kind of fun.

[necso]

8. I was channel-surfing

a time or two recently, when I stumbled across programs of this genre.

I listened briefly, and I was rather pleased to hear talk of things like patience, teamwork, tactics and strategies. (The action in the pit is rather interesting, but I would have liked to have heard more about the larger logistics/maintenance issues.)

I think that these are good things for people to hear -- and to think about and discuss. It's a quantum leap above most of thoughtless, titillating drivel on the idiot-maker box (and elsewhere), including that which purports to be "news".

[yorkiemommie1]

12. my husband's nephew was on a pit crew

his father, my BIL, voted for Kerry, totally hates *.

[necso]

13. I see nothing inherent in nascar

that makes fans into bush-bots.

Except, perhaps, for the contempt and scorn heaped on such things by self-identified (and so-called) "leftists" and "intellectuals".

Indeed, people who spend time critically thinking about the actual practice of principles (and the skilled, effective use of practical tools), as opposed to hypocrisy, posturing, bloviating and the hard-sell, would seem to me to be candidates to be (become) anti-neocon.

[TahitiNut]

9. I saw a 'tricked out' pickup truck the other day, with NASCAR stickers ...

... and an IMPEACH BUSH sticker on the back window. In the Detroit area, that's nice to see.