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blueinindiana Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:22 PM
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Bin Laden … Is he really alive or dead.

I know there have been audiotapes of ‘Bin Laden’ that the CIA and others say is likely him but that is not proof. I will not be satisfied he is really alive until he surfaces on tap directly talking about new events or showing a newspaper or something verifying the time and date.

As far as I can remember the last proof of his existence was the one tape where he talked about the towers falling or at least that is what I have been told.


I can think of only a few reasons he has not showed up on videotape. One he is dead, two he is very ill or his appearance has changed.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:23 PM
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1. Yes, he really is.
;)
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:29 PM
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7. yep, I agree
"Who knows" according to Rumsfeld

"I don't know, I don't spend alot of time thinking about him" according to Bush
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:31 PM
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8. That's hard to avoid
sometimes, just to tempting.

Sometimes I want to answer that way when someone asks if it was a boy or a girl. "Yes, it was". OK, I have done that.
The world is so full of straight lines.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:24 PM
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2. Strolling through the bluebells in Crawford, perhaps?
They have a swell guest house....much more comfy than a cave, and no prying eyes about!
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:25 PM
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3. Either way....it's just another sign the * cabal screwed up this
whole thing. They had an opportunity to mitigate any impact that he would have and they blew it...or they intentionally didn't remove him so they could use the fear card.....

Just another failure...move along folks nothing to see here...
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:26 PM
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4. If he were dead and the White House knew it....
hell, Bush would milk it for all it's worth.

Bin Laden is still very much alive.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:27 PM
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5. Frankly, I think that he's long gone
In whatever fashion that may be BUT he sure conveniently pops up when it serves this regime.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:27 PM
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6. He's alive... and pigged out on my Guacamole the last time he stopped by
...bad house guest - did I mention he failed to lift the toilet seat? bin Laden wizz all over my toilet - what an asshole!!!!:evilgrin:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:34 PM
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9. I don't know. He easily culb be hiding in open site in
the mountains of Pakistan, and getting his daily laughs watching Shrub, Rummy and the troops in Iraq.

It's possible he's dead, but I find it hard to believe is followers would have kept that silent. Don't ya think they'd want to openly honor their fallen leader????
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:35 PM
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10. I think that video of him talking about the towers was faked
for a couple of reasons. First, he wrote something down using his right hand, and he's left handed. Second, there is a shot of him wearing a gold watch. Strict Wahhabists like bin Laden don't wear gold.

Whether or not he is alive is a moot point. What is more relevant is when "he" makes pronouncements-they always seem to be planned so that Bush comes out ahead.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:36 PM
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11. Probably alive and at home in Saudi Arabia
The Cabal doesn't care, he's served his purpose for now.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:43 PM
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12. I have no doubts he is alive
and so are the other top leaders responsible for 9-11. Bush would certainly take advantage of any credit he could get in his capture. The fact that Bush is so quiet about it means he is still alive and doing fine.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:44 PM
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13. I don't even think he's real to begin with!
Not anymore real than Emmanuel Goldstein.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:49 PM
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14. He is at Cheney's secret bunker
making tapes for Rove to trot out as needed.
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Cant_wait_for_2008 Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 04:56 PM
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15. Emmanual Goldstien=Osama Bin Forgotten
Orwell had it all right there, back in 1948.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 05:03 PM
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16. Dead
His funeral was in December 2001.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 05:24 PM
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17. For a long time I thought he was alive
and living in San Diego but my vibes are now telling me he is deceased. If I had time I would also tell of my vibes on Elvis but that will have to wait for another day. Cheers!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 05:25 PM
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18. Alive. n/t
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 05:32 PM
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19. Dead as a dodo?
Dead as a dodo? Not necessarily
Anna Salleh, ABC Science Online

Thursday, 20 November 2003

...Just because an animal hasn't been seen for a long time, doesn't mean it's extinct, according to statistical research that sheds new light on the plight of the dodo.

...Accurately estimating when a species becomes extinct is difficult as rare individuals can survive undetected for years after they are last seen. While the idea that an animal is not necessarily extinct just because it hasn't been seen for a while may seem obvious, extinction dates have traditionally been set as the date of last sighting.

...To work out the 'new' dodo extinction date the researchers used actual sightings of the animal but Cooper said that fossil data could be used as a substitute.

However he said he would "be inclined to raise my eyebrows" at the idea of applying the concept to the extinction of the dinosaurs because he did not think there would be accurate enough data.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s993634.htm
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 05:38 PM
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20. Probably dead.
Pretending he's alive helps the bushies hang onto power, and it helps Al Qaeda, so they're not telling either. I believe the December 2001 death scenario.

Whenever the bushies need a boost, poof! up pops another tape. :eyes:
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:33 PM
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21. I think he's been dead a long, long time
and his buddies have a lot of fun pretending to be him.

And I think the CIA probably knows or at least suspects it but for whatever reason, they don't admit it.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:38 PM
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22. wonder how they'll use Bin Laden for up coming elections?
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Cant_wait_for_2008 Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 02:27 AM
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24. Fear, fear and more fear, thats what we are going to see B4 November.
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 06:44 PM
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23. Drives a cab in Brooklyn...
or does it matter after all?
There are only two schools of thought remaining about this affair:
either the idiot president is even more stupid than we thought (entirely possible),
or bin Laden is not meant to be caught for political reasons (also very possible).

There certainly seems to be more here than meets the ear.

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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 02:42 AM
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25. What nonsense.
Just because the fascists ruling the US are liars does not mean that nutcases like bin Laden or Falwell or Dobson are imaginary. Unfortunately, religious fanatics are rather commonplace and all too real.
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