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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-05 09:11 PM
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Because of overt and covert anti-feminism, I have divorced myself from
DU for about a month now. However, since I am posting on DU this evening to get more specific directions to Crawford, I had to come by here to say howdy-do to the wonderful women on this site. What do you think of the efforts of Cindy to reconcile her son's death with the words of bush that he died for a "noble cause"?
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 12:13 AM
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1. Howdy friend!
Well, I think that it's quite INnoble of Bush to tell a society that their sons and daughters are fighting for a "noble cause" and ultimately dying for it. There is nothing NOBLE about attacking a country whose weapons we made SURE were destroyed before we invaded. There is nothing 'noble' about occupying a sovereign nation that was never a threat to us. There is nothing 'noble' about wreaking not only havock upon a civilization, but havock upon ageless historical and archaelogical ruins--not that belonged to the Iraqi's, but the WHOLE of mankind.

There is nothing 'noble' about allowing libraries, museums, and historical sites to be looted because we couldn't afford proper protection, yet we made sure we were able to protect the oil fields.

THere is nothing noble about dying in vain. And that is what every soldier who has died, and every Iraqi who has died has died for--NOTHING. Greed. Profit. Industry. Global Domination. Nothing noble about that.

Now, I'm not bashing the troops at all. They are fulfilling their obilgation and honestly, I wouldn't do it if I were in their shoes. I could not ever quantify killing another person in any situation save for a very few, special situations. I'd much rather die myself than to kill a child, or a man, or a woman who posed no threat to me other than being born in the wrong country.

I find his "noble cause" platitudes to be as emtpy as his head. What the FUCK would he know about noble causes? He's not done a noble thing in his bastardly worthless life. Everything for him has been about greed and power and nothing more. He wouldn't know noble if it slapped him in his roseola fucking face.

He's not even had the fucking GONADS to visit a soldier's funeral. THAT would be a noble cause--to show your stinking fucking ass at a funeral and have to LOOK into the eyes of the mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, wives, husbands, and children of those who died for his profits. But he can't do that.

If he ever put his life on the line for ANYTHING---ANYTHING, then perhaps, perhaps he could speak about noble causes.

As it is, him speaking about noble causes is like me speaking about the joy I felt as I walked on Mars for the first time. Complete lie based on no realisitic facts.

Good luck in Crawford. Take pictures, take notes, and be aware that you are a part of history in the making. Stay safe, my friend. You're in my thoughts and I wish I could be with you in person. Since I can't, though, please know that I"m with you in spirit.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:22 PM
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6. You are always so eloquent and to the point in your posts. I miss
you all but I see that the trend toward misogyny is still strong at DU and shows no signs of being curtailed.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-10-05 03:58 PM
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2. I think very highly of Cindy -- she was 1/2 of my post on
Edited on Wed Aug-10-05 03:59 PM by Eloriel
Women Warriors.

I've missed you, and am glad to have an explanation. I'm also jealous that you're going to Crawford. HOOOOOORAY!!! Good for you! Stay safe.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:19 PM
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4. Oh, so just try to mess with this old Texas lady. I know, understand,
work with and command those good old boys all the time. It is so fun to play them like the fools that they are.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-05 11:50 AM
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3. We need your voice here...don't stay away
and Cindy is a complete hero. Mr Bring It On is exposed for the coward he is by a grieving mother.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 08:20 PM
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5. Wed. was great and I will probably go again this Wed.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-05 10:40 PM
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7. I will be there on Wednesday!
We MUST meet. DancingBear, MaddyMcCall, Proud2Blib and I will be there. We are all staying in the same hotel in Waco. PM me and I will send you me cell #, I would love to meet you.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:16 AM
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:47 AM
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9. Welcome back, if only for a short time. You know Cindy's quest has
succeeded beyond all expectations when the RW machine has gone to such lengths to try to discredit her.
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