the Cherokee "chopped ear"

[donsu]

http://www.thisspaceforrent.org/archives/000500.html


I Am Not My Cock

And neither is any other man. There's been a lot of discussion about this on the blogs in the last few days. Apparently, there seems to be a widley held belief amongst even liberal men, that male humans are first and formost nothing but a cock. After that, balls, then eyes, then rage, and somewhere way down the line, they become capable of speech, thought, and memory.

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Hell, you'd think that most guys WHO HAVE NEVER RAPED ANYONE would think to themselves "Hey, I don't go around assaulting people. I don't rape women. When a girl says no, or turns me down, I handle it like an adult. And now that I think about it, I think I'm kinda normal. I guess being able to not hurt and murder and rape is the norm. Gosh, that means rapists are fucking evil freaks. Golly gee willikers, who'da thunk it!".

And honestly, why would ANYONE want to go on record as justifying sexual assault? Are you fucking insane? What's next, going on record as "seeing how NAMBLA has a point"? Rapists, like murderers, are the bad guys. However, unlike murder, there is never, ever, ever a point where raping someone is a defensible response to a crisis. You can kill someone who is trying to kill you, and even the law thinks so. there is no such analogue for rape. Rape is, simply put, evil inflicted through sex. There is no justification for it, and anyone who goes looking for one out to be ashamed.

It's true that most guys are raised in a horribly sexist culture that considers their cock's perrogatives to be of utmost cultural importance. They're taught to look to the male perspective first, as though admitting that rape is evil will somehow ruin things for all men. Men see their needs as normal, and female needs as either scary or as an inconvenience.
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at the end of the article there is a comments forum:

(scroll down)

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"In Cherokee culture (where women were equal to men in government and society thank you very much) if a man raped a woman, they cropped his ear. By doing this, he was not only marked with the shame of what he'd done for the rest of his life, but also a woman could see him coming and stay away from him. If a man raped a woman a second time, they cropped his other ear. If a man raped a woman a third time, they hung him. Needless to say, rape was not a major part of Cherokee culture because it was not tolerated, PERIOD! There is absolutely NO REASON to have 8 to 15 time rape offenders. Thank you for having the stones to call evil out for what it is."
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thought you all would find this as interesting as I did

[Warpy]

1. It looks like the Cherokees tolerated rape THREE TIMES

Honestly, how bad does rape have to be before the rapist is DISARMED?

And yes, sexism damages all of us. However, the benefits are awarded disproportionately to men, so men are the ones who are going to have to deal with the damage that it does. I'm not being cruel here, I just have my hands full with my own emotional shitwork, much of it the result of sexism that I don't benefit from.

As for never committing rape, I'm sure most men have never held a knife or gun on an unwilling woman, nor drugged her to force sex. However, men also have to own the times an exhausted or otherwise unwilling woman "gave in" under emotional blackmail or threat of abandonment. Although not technically rape, it leaves a woman feeling used and resentful, at best.

Maybe when men figure that out, we'll be able to dialog on the subject.

[cally]

2. The first part of this is important

Maybe you should post this in GD. More need to see this. (The Cherokee info is interesting.)