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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:10 PM
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The 6 Weirdest Things Women Do to Their Vaginas
A humorous look at some of the silly "fixes" for something that isn't broken.

http://www.alternet.org/news/145461/the_6_weirdest_things_women_do_to_their_vaginas

What the hell is vaginal rejuvenation? Who would want their vagina bleached? Here's a list of the strangest ways to make your genitals meet the demands of the beauty industry
January 30, 2010 |

What's wrong with your vagina? If you answered "nothing," you're probably wrong. According to the beauty-industrial complex, it's ugly, and it smells bad. But don't worry-- there's nothing that money can't fix.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:24 PM
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1. I failed to find "dyeing what remains of pubic hair an outrageous color" on that list.
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 04:25 PM by BlueIris
Or is that a trend that has passed?

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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 10:56 PM
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2. That doesn't make me cross my legs like the other things on the list.
:rofl:

The things listed were cringe-worthy, but is there something unfeminist about having a little fun with the hair "down there"? If you use dyes especially made for that, I mean. Otherwise, bad idea.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:41 AM
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3. There's nothing antifeminist about it, and to each her own,
but it's definitely something that doesn't, er, "resonate" with me.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:05 AM
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8. lol.
agreed. :blush:
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 11:49 AM
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4. "Vagina mints"
From a perspective that is NOT from shame, dislike or disgust of my own natural vaginal scent, I have to say, I could have some fun with that one.

You all know I'm a nurse and my personal first rule is NO UNNECESSARY SURGERY. Other can choose to do whatever, but I get to see the poor outcomes. I'm just sayin'.

That being said, why would a women want to remove sensitive and sensual tissue from her genital area ala labiaplasty? I say just get a better fucking lover, or at least one that is willing to learn. These poor women have no idea what a gift female genitalia is when it comes to good sex, all contortionist porn aside. (For instance, being held upside down with legs spread at a 180 degree angle getting pounded manfully is an admirable display of agility, but good sex it's not)

As far as vaginal tightening? One word. Kegals. Do them. Often. You won't be disappointed.

The dangers and destructive nature of douching are well documented, (Fun DU fact; objecting to calling someone a douchebag on that premise is a guaranteed flame war) not to mention douching is completely unnecessary. Your own healthy natural scent is one of natures aphrodisiacs, and a damn good one.

And those goddam sprays? Jesus Christ on a crutch, could anything be more useless and stupid? Well, maybe scented tampons I guess.

I ain't dying my pubic hair for much the same reason I don't paint my fingernails. I keep things short and clean. Plus I'd never keep it up, and ultimately I have more important things to do. I like that idea better than the barbie doll look though.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 12:24 PM
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6. I'm stunned once again at how effective marketing is at convincing people there's something wrong
Edited on Fri Feb-05-10 12:38 PM by Gormy Cuss
with a natural state. Vaginal bleaching? Holy Hell.

BTW, I remember the epic douchebag battle in GD. As I recall one of the arguments in favor of it was that Jon Stewart says it on the air all the time. Yeah, that follows -- because a comic who says it with the tone of an adolescent it's acceptable on a progressive web site. :eyes:
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 03:39 PM
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7. Right along with anal bleaching
Something I will never, ever, ever 'get'.

Anyway, I pulled out "Woman an Intimate Geography" by Natalie Angier, and thought I'd post this part. I'm sure I've posted it before at some point. I need the typing practice anyway. I wish I could do the whole chapter.


"The crux of the vaginal ecosystem, said Hillier, is symbiosis, a mutually advantageous and ongoing barter between macro-environment and microorganism. Yes, the vagina is full of germs, in the sense of bacteria; it swims with life forms, and you hope it stays that way. But there are germs and germs. When conditions are healthy, the germs, or rather bacteria, in the vagina do a body good. They are lactobacilli, the same bacteria found in yogurt. "A healthy vagina is a clean dn pure as a carton of yogurt," said Hillier. (Why do I suspect that we're not likely to see Dannon picking up on this slogan anytime soon?) And so the smell "A normal vagina should have a slightly sweet, slightly pungent odor. It should have the lactic acid smell of yogurt." The contract is simple. We provide lactobacilli with food and shelter--the comfort of the vaginal walls. The moisture,the proteins, they sugars of our tissue. They maintain a stable population and keep competing bacteria out. Merely by living and metabolizing, they generate lactic acid and hydrogen peroxide; which are disinfectants that prevent colonization by less benign microbes. The robust vagina is an acidic vagina with a pH of 3.8 to 4.5. That's somewhat more acidic than black coffee (with a pH of 5)but less piquant that a lemon (pH2).In fact the idea of pairing wine and women isn't bad one, as the acidity of the vagina in health is just about that of a glass of red wine. This is the vagina that sings; this is the vagina with bouquet, with legs


Nor is ordinary vaginal discharge anything to be mortified about. It is made up of the same things found in blood serum, the clear, then sticky liquid that remains behind when the solid components of blood, like clotting factors, are separated away. Vaginal discharge consists of water, albumin--the most abundant protein in the body--a few stray white blood cells and mucin, the oily substance that gives the vagina and cervix their slippery sheen. Discharge is ont dirt, certainly, and it is not a toxic waste product of the body in the sense of urine and feces. No, no, no. It is the same substance as what's inside the vagina neither better nor worse, pulled down because we're bipedal and gravity exists and because on occasion the cup runneth over. It is the lubricant beneath the illusion of carapace, reminding up that physiologically, we are all aquatic organisms.

But gals, there's no denying it: sometimes we stink and we know it. Not like strawberry yogurt or a good Cabernet, but like, alas, albacore. Or even skunk. How does this happen? If you haven't bathed for a week, I'll let you figure it out for yourself. But sometimes it's not a question of hygiene; it's a medical issue, a condition called bacterial vaginosis. For a number of reasons the balance of flora within the vagina is upset and the lactobacilli start to founder, In their stead, other organisms proliferate, particularly anaerobic bacteria, which thrive in the absence of oxygen. They microbes secrete a host of compounds, each fouler than the last. Here is where the unflattering comparison to seafood comes in Distressingly, the microbes make trimethylamine, which is the same substance that gives day-old fish it's fishy odor. They make putrescine, a compound found in putrefying meat. The made cadaverine, and I need not tell you from whence that chemical was named. The amount and combination of these rank byproducts depends of the severity of the vaginosis.

In other words, if you're having a problem with unspeakable "feminine odor," that syndrome so coyly referred to in all those ass for douches and feminine deodorants, you could have an infection, often a low-grade chronic one, with no symptoms beyond the odiferous. Some of the causes of such infection are known. Among the biggest is...douching. In an effort to get fresh 'n' clean, and to look like the dewy, virginal women pictured on the packages of Massengill, women can make themselves dirtier than ever. Douching kills off the beneficial lactobacilli and paves the way for infection by anaerobes and their trails of cadavrine. So, while I rarely dispense medical advice this one is easy; don't douche, ever, period, end of squirt bottle."
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:40 AM
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11. I tend to have issues
w/how "women's issues" are handled by male animators. The one exception I've noticed is the rare occasion that one of the female producers of Family Guy sneaks something in.

Anyway, one week they kind of spoofed those awful "douche" ads. The daughter asked the mother if she ever has that "not so fresh feeling....you know, down there."

The mother responds--bluntly,"...no. I don't know any woman who ever has. If you do, there must be something wrong w/you and you should go to the doctor." I laughed and silently thanked Alex Borstein for that one.

:rofl:
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 06:22 PM
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12. That was a great bit on Family Guy...
especially since it's a perfect depiction of the bluntness common in parts of New England. For that matter, most of Lois's character is a perfect depiction right down to the accent. The other Griffins, not so much.
:D
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 07:48 PM
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13. oh wow...
...didn't expect to encounter a Family Guy viewer here (in Feminism). :blush: it's kind of my guilty pleasure (and secret shame). Given the way the show frequently (seems) to view domestic violence as worthy comedic subject matter. :shrug::crazy:

I especially dislike the way the only female child in the family (Meg) is the family scapegoat. I'm still not sure if that is a comment on the way females are viewed by many in society as less desirable offspring, as opposed to male children (i.e. think asia for an example)... or just something they (the writers/creator/producers) think is cute/funny.

Thanks for sharing about New England, and Lois's character, as I wasn't aware of this. :hi:
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 08:43 PM
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14. It's a not so guilty pleasure of mine too.
I remember one episode when Peter says to Lois, "Listen Lois, I know you're a feminist and I think that's adorable, but this is grown-up time and I'm the man." The show may be full of moments like that which out of context that seem offensive but in the context of the show you realize the writers agree that viewpoint is wrong.

One thing that has disappointed me about the show after it came back from cancellation is the lack of character development for Meg. I've seen some overall improvements this last season but there has been quite a bit of lazy writing and relying on gimmicks especially where Meg is concerned since the show came back. I've read that the show's writers blame this on having trouble writing for a teenage girl. To a certain extent I can understand because the more recent episodes that have focused around her didn't revolve around typical teenage themes but the show's been around long enough for them to figure out how to write for her.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 11:10 PM
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17. I remember that one...
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 11:33 PM by bliss_eternal
Cracked me up! As well as the one where Lois demands to drive, (because dumb ass is blindfolded while driving) and Peter says something like,"...you know it's illegal for women to drive" and laughs at her.

Or the one where they go to the sex shop and Peter watches one of those old, wind up movie peep shows..."...awww HOT, she's voting! You vote for Taft you Dirty Girl!" :spray:

It took me a while to tune in to it, but my other guilty pleasure is American Dad. Do you ever watch that one? Lots of offensive (but hilarious) stuff on that one--as the main character is a staunch conservative, CIA agent. Like you said, clearly the writers are commenting on that point of view.

Like the ep where they're having a costume party. Lois' friend shows up all bloody. Brian asks what she is...
"I'm a victim of the liberal agenda. I'm a murdered fetus." Oh and Lois is the guy Laura Bush killed in a hit and run accident.

The daughter on American Dad is more developed--but she's older than the Meg character. She's also used more as a foil to the father because she's a staunch liberal. Well, her and Roger (McFarland paying tribute to the late, great Paul Lynde). ;) You make a great point on Meg, though. :thumbsup: As far as her storylines being gimmicky. Here's hoping they do something more interesting w/the character.

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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:23 AM
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19. I love American Dad!
Edited on Sun Feb-07-10 12:25 AM by jmm
I like how the show's not just about zany situations. The characters within the episodes and throughout the series are forced to reexamine their views. Did you ever see the episode where they move to Saudi Arabia? I've read it was banned there. I love Francine's song about it being the worst place in the world. She has her stepford wife tendencies so when she goes off like this you know something's wrong-

http://www.hulu.com/watch/1142/american-dad-worst-place-in-the-world
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-08-10 06:49 AM
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20. "...It's a land of joy ...."
"...if you are a boy."
"But if you are a girl, it's the worst place in the world!"
"...if you have a vagina, a clitoris...(you see where I'm going w/this)...or a labia, stay the hell out of Saudi Arabia."

:spray::rofl:

Love that one! Gee, who knew that Stan would fully embracing Saudi Arabia and take on another wife (naming her ThunderCat). lol. Yeah, right. That's totally his scene (sexism to the nth degree).

Francine has a Stepford thing, but a few episodes have revealed she was once a "wild child." Like the Morning StraightJacket episode where she get's Stan backstage. (No longer available on hulu.com :( )

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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 08:44 PM
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15. I know. Part of me thinks that I shouldn't watch it at all, part of me needs to hear
the sounds and attitudes of home (Lois's attitude that is, not Peter and his bar buddies.) I think Lois must be modeled after MacFarlane's own mother.
For the most part the show isn't any more evolved than South Park but it's guilty pleasure for me too.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:35 PM
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16. i prefer the early eps...
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 10:41 PM by bliss_eternal
...of south park. i feel matt and trey got a bit too full of themselves. my tv tends to tilt a bit to the right during many of their later seasons. their so full of their right wing sympathizing (couched in libertarianism).

in contrast, mcfarland is a dem. and i see that in the show. he blasts conservative issues (but pokes fun at the left, too). whereas the colorado boys seem rather heavy handed toward the left. ever notice they've never spoofed "w" on the show? but they've done clinton a few times (during his admin), and heard they recently featured "obama."

in the beginning, they seemed equal opportunity offenders (no one was safe)---and i appreciated that. as the bush admin. faced stronger criticism, they seemed to make more episodes that were critical of progressive stances. (they've made no mystery of the fact they liked "w"...as the creators of "that's my bush").

i found their katrina themed show particularly offensive. with few exceptions, i stopped viewing the show after that one. the early seasons are in syndication outside of cartoon network, so i tend to revisit those.

their weird fascination (and mocking of) menstrual issues and abortion, is disturbing to me. mrs. cartman's character is blatant misogyny--given that she's based on one's ex gf (who allegedly left him at the altar :eyes:).

though i have to admit, i liked the paris hilton episode....in spite of the name...i think it was called,"stupid, spoiled whore". i liked the message and the point made, despite having mixed feelings about at least one of the dudes behind that message. lol.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 11:36 PM
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18. I never watch any of that shit
Not because of any true cultural or political objection, but I like weird anime or computer generated shows a lot better than American adult cartoons. Some anime of course, is pretty bizarre. AND offensive to say the least.

But I'm an art freak, so if it's artistic to me, I like it even when it's disturbing or even disgusting, topic matter. (A bit OT, but Piss Christ still cracks me up. It was a beautiful piece though) I've managed not to become a 'graphic novel'(ie comic books)fan. Although I'm tempted at times, at my age for goodness sakes. I can just see me spending all that money like a kid. (I liked horror comics when I was a kid. What I wouldn't give for a few of those now old comics have quite a bit of cash value)

So, I've missed South park, the Simpson's AND Family Guy. My loss, I'm sure. I hear the shows are very funny and clever much of the time. I heard that South Park went from the very topical, clever, ironic and deeply cynical to the kind of hateful and a bit bitter. But what do you expect when the authers are Libertarians? (read it in an interview) Hard to sustain that certain level of Schadenfreude and still REALLY enjoy it, unless one IS a bit bitter.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:34 AM
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10. speaking of douche...
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 02:42 AM by bliss_eternal
a female ob/gyn shared w/me that she tells patients to NOT douche. typically women do so when they think they have an infection. she said this is the worst thing a woman could do--as they are literally shooting the bacteria farther within. which can cause greater problems in the fallopian tubes, etc.

on the subject of unnecessary surgery, i posted a link to a thread where we had a discussion about some of the insane surgeries women were getting (in 2007). not much has changed as far as women, and unnecessary surgery in a few years (sadly). :(
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 12:08 PM
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5. "if you really cared, you'd make your vagina smell like a poisonous island. "
:rofl:


Seriously though, this shit is SAD.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 02:27 AM
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9. Here's a thread and article
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 02:42 AM by bliss_eternal
from October, 2007 (this forum) related to this issue (please excuse my subject line typo/error :blush:):

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=341&topic_id=11336

kind of interesting to see the way these stories make the rounds, every few years or so. I'm linking to provide a sense of how much (or how little) this issue may have changed in three years.
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