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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:44 AM
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Comments that would make you want to weep.
Edited on Mon Jun-13-05 08:48 AM by SemiCharmedQuark
Or beat the shit out of someone, whatever floats your boat. I haven't seen this movie, but I've been going through the messageboard because, as a I work at a movie theater, I have heard a lot of kids come out talking about "that fat girl" referring to America Ferrerra

IMDB only verifies these thoughts with comments like this:

"It's "Guys" because the way girls thinks makes them too ignorant to recognize when a fat girl is fat.

America is a porkhound, get over it and stop whining at people HONEST enough to point it out."



Yes, look at her. Truly a porkhound.




America Ferrerra was also the star of "Real Women have Curves"

That message board was also full of hatred towards her.


I wonder how much of it is hatred against women and how much is racial bias. Not all races value the same traits and this is especially true about Hispanics and Whites. Either way, if I see one more 5XL guy in a 'no fat chicks" shirt, Im going to scream.

This isn't about thin vs. fat, it's about the double standard. When "Hitch" came out, there wasn't an outcry that Kevin James should not have been cast because he was fat.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:02 AM
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1. It's pure misogyny, loathing of anything faintly maternal
She's not fat, at all. She's NORMAL, ferkrissakes, which is why she's not built like a drag queen, all bones except for big fake boobs.

We've gotten to a truly sad state when women with absolutely normal bodies are despised. Why don't these juveniles just go after the real thing, the drag queens? I can tell them where to find them hustling in Boston. I'm sure people on this board could direct them in other cities. Once occupied with the true objects of their dearest fantasies, maybe they'd have little time for message boards and for making normal girls feel like shit.

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LisaLynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:12 AM
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2. Sickening.
Once you get over (as much as you can in this culture) thinking that this ultra-thin, sickly look is "normal" in any way, all of those skinny actresses really start to be hard to watch -- they're all bony and look like they're about to fall over. It's painful.

I think that on some level these people who would make comments like that just can't stand it that a woman is not starving herself. They can't stand to see a woman who looks healthy and powerful and secure in herself. They have to tear that down. You're going against society!
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 01:30 PM
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3. And I suppose they hold men to the same standard?
I see a lot of men on TV with beer bellies and insufficiently cute butts. Are they being criticized for that?
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Lady President Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:14 PM
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14. No, that's humor
An obese, rude man and his skinny, beautiful wife is a staple of situation comedies. :eyes:
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 09:50 PM
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16. I think it's been that way since the dawn of TV, too.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-05 12:51 AM
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17. Oh...but....but
Thats demeaning to men! Don't you see them complaining about it on this and other boards? Men are being portrayed as incompetent idiots on sitcoms wah wah. But yeah, you're right, obese rude men are shown with skinny pretty wives. I'm waiting for the show where a chubby, clumsy, and socially inept female ends up with a hot guy.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 03:04 PM
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4. These are the same kind of morons
who said Titanic-era Kate Winslet was "well-padded" or even fat. Only one of the most gorgeous women walking the earth, and they called her FAT?!

I think that young lady is just lovely. I thought so when I saw Real Women Have Curves, too. I thought how nice it was to see someone who didn't look like they just came out of a concentration camp.

Ever meet a movie or TV star (female) in person? I met Cynthia Nixon at the Democratic National Convention last year. On the TV show Sex and the City, she often looked the most "normal" of the four women (the least anorexic), but in person, holy mother of god, she is SKINNY! She's very pretty and very sweet, but oh my word, she's so thin she's downright scary. Is that what we're supposed to all aspire to? For some people, that degree of thinness is normal, but not for most of us - for most of us, it's unattainable and trying to attain it is horribly unhealthful.

Why can't people accept and enjoy the diversity of body types in the world? Why do we all have to look alike?
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 03:11 PM
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5. Respectfully, Cynthia Nixon looked normal (on tv) to you?
All the SAtC actresses looked about as anorexic as any other woman on t.v. looks to me. Not surprised to read the part of your post about her being ultra- skinny in real life.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:29 PM
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7. I meant "the closest to normal of the 4"
Edited on Mon Jun-13-05 04:29 PM by geniph
not quite the same thing. ;-)

I actually was talking to someone a few weeks ago who said they thought she looked kind of "chubby" on the show. Um. WTF???
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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 04:48 PM
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8. After the birth...
a couple of episodes dealt with her losing the "baby weight" so she was heavier in those episodes.

I didn't think the actresses were unrealistic as far as weight--not anorexic or implant queens for sure.

I think "healthy" is what we as feminists(everyone) should strive for.
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Vladimir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 03:22 PM
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6. What people can't accept is that a large part of
what we percieve as beautiful, if not all of it, is a social construct like anything else. And currently society in most of the "developed" world wants its women, by and large, anorexic - I have no idea why, but there you go.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:27 PM
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10. Yes, a few centuries ago, reubenesque women were the
Edited on Mon Jun-13-05 05:27 PM by Bunny
standard to match. Now, it's bony and skinny, but preferably with massive hooters. Weird. :shrug:
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Lady President Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:18 PM
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15. I met her too and completely agree
Cynthia Nixon is one skinny woman. Even if I starved myself, there is no way my body could look like that-- her collar bones are the size of straws.

If we accepted our bodies, then we could use our energy for real purposes. How scary would that be for some men?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:11 PM
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9. Loved the movie. Love America
I think she's beautiful!


"Either way, if I see one more 5XL guy in a 'no fat chicks" shirt, Im going to scream. "

I usually have to fight the urge to slap them.


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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 06:12 PM
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13. Just repeat the words of my favorite horndog
"Going to bed with one of those supermodel types is like trying to bed a bag of antlers."

The visual helps avoid violence.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:40 PM
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11. It's a lack of control over women when women are strong enough
to choose health over what a male dominated society wants them to do.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 05:50 PM
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12. So many posts here make me want to read The Beauty Myth
Edited on Mon Jun-13-05 05:51 PM by redqueen
I need to make time to do so this summer.
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