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errorbells Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-14-07 10:07 AM
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Scientists Seek Better Tests for Lyme
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-HealthBeat-Lyme-Disease.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

President Bush's recently revealed treatment for Lyme disease makes him part of an unfortunate trend: The tick-borne infection is on the rise, with cases more than doubling in the past 15 years.

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Furious patient groups say the guidelines prompted some insurers to quit paying for some patients' only relief -- and that the recommendation instead should have been there's not enough data to know what works. Diane Blanchard, co-president of Time for Lyme, points insurers to still other guidelines, from the International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society, doctors aligned with the patient groups who back more antibiotics.

''The last thing many of us want to do is ingest an antibiotic,'' says Blanchard. ''We are basically sitting on our hands watching this disease expand its ill effect ... and doing very little except for taking sides, and essentially that's not helping anyone.''


>>Dr. Eugene Shapiro...

is the "Karl Christian Rove" of LD doctors.
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kickysnana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 11:13 PM
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1. Same reason they don't have a yes/no test for MS.
LymeRix was based on Osp C protein in the Lyme bacteria and the vaccine produces the same immune response as the disease. You cannot have a test that does not differentiate between the vaccine and the disease. Big profit potential in the LymeRix vaccine. Steere and others in the NIH-CDC had their money and careers invested in the vaccine (not a cure). Great minds met in Dearborn Michigan and dumbed down the then current Lyme tests that caught more than 50% of the disease when a person was making antibodies to it (see below). When they dumbed it down it dropped to 39%. Great test.

Lyme is a deep tissue disease and does not like oxygen and being killed by the immune system so it burrows its way into deep tissue and hides out until your immune system goes down. Most tests measure blood system immune response. Needle in a haystack test.

LymeRix was withdrawn at least 7 years ago and they were never sure how long the vaccine would test positive in the blood anyway so why didn't they restore the old tests with current technology.

IGENEX has the best tests and the Corpratists have tried to shut them down several ways. Congress intervened twice. But if you do not count the 2 bands that react most positively in Lyme because that is the same two bands that reacted with the vaccine you might as well flip a coin.

Lyme today has to be a clinical diagnosis and treatment should continue until the symptoms are gone. 7000 children treated by Dr Chas Jones and Dr Fannon's Columbia long term study proved that. Another one in Canada also proved it but it was never allowed to be published.

Hey why is Lyme considered one of 34 bio weapons if it is so easily cured? Because it isn't and corporatist are practicing medicine in America.
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errorbells Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:34 PM
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2. Thank you.....
for all you said.
>Hey why is Lyme considered one of 34 bio weapons if it is so easily
>cured?

and why don't Vets complain about antibiotic seeking dogs?
You have read "Lab 257"?

It has gone on so long, I can hardly believe it.
So many people are infected with this disease and will never
know, because of the politics and corruption that exist around it.

I will never be cured, but I still treat myself.
Had I not found out in the early 90's (I was infected in the 70's)
my diagnosis might have been MS or one of the dozens of other misdiagnoses.
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