KOEB 11/9/2005 (The Future of News Edition)

[Berry Cool]

Here he is, our Edward R. Murrow:



There may be no Bay Airs, perverts or cheerleaders having sex on tonight's show...but even if not, it should be good.

Enjoy.

[Olney Blue]

1. Hi Berry!

omg- did you hear Tweety say in a disgusted voice: I bet I know what
Keith's number one story is?!!!!!!

[RevCheesehead]

2. The male Bay Airs have been naughty.

I'll take Keith, thank you. :loveya:

[Olney Blue]

3. Hi Rev!

:hi:

[SharonRB]

5. Hi, all

Love the poll numbers!

[Olney Blue]

8. Hi SharonRB!

It sure is sweet, isn't it? I've been happy all day.

:dem:

[SharonRB]

10. Me, too, except for the Detroit mayoral race

I went to bed thinking Kwame had lost and woke up today to find out he pulled it out in the wee hours. Not that I live in the city, but it really affects the whole metro area.

On edit: And speaking of the Detroit election, I really had to bite my tongue this morning. I was talking to the gal in the office next to mine, who I've mentioned here before is a very ardent Repub (her dog's name is Reagan). We were talking about the Detroit City Clerk who got voted out. There has been a huge scandal going on about her recently having to do with absentee ballots and how she abused the system by having absentee ballots "filled out" by dead people, how she sent "election ambassadors" to nursing homes to "help" people vote, etc. Then Pamela (my co-worker) said she didn't understand how people could vote for anyone who so obviously abused their power. I really had to control myself to not say anything about her voting for *, seeing that he's abused his power over and over again.

[Olney Blue]

31. Poor dog!

maybe you should call PETA......

[SharonRB]

32. LOL

[RevCheesehead]

9. me, too.

Poor Ahhnold. Not as much of the Governator as he thought he was, huh?

:hi:

[Clark2008]

17. Dana's correct - until 2006, that is... when we CAN

impeach His Chimpness.

Check out the polling numbers out of Tennessee for the Ford Jr. race:

(NASHVILLE) -- The latest poll for Tennessee's upcoming U.S. Senate race shows Congressman Harold Ford, Jr. leading all rivals in the campaign.

According to the survey taken by Global Strategy Group, Ford leads each of his possible Republican opponents for the November 2006 election. Ford leads failed 2002 Senate contender Ed Bryant 38 percent - 37 percent, failed 2002 gubernatorial nominee Van Hilleary 40 percent - 38 percent and failed 1994 Senate candidate Bob Corker 39 percent - 36 percent.

"I have been conducting survey research in Tennessee for years and the results of this poll, coupled with current national trends, show that Congressman Ford can win," said Harrison Hickman, Partner at Global Strategy Group. Harrison Hickman served as senior political advisor recently for U.S. Senator Mark Pryor, when he was elected in 2002 and former U.S. Senator John Edwards, when he was elected in 1998. Hickman’s current clients in Tennessee include 8th District Congressman John Tanner and State Senator Roy Herron – he also served as pollster for former Tennessee Governor Ned McWherter in both of his gubernatorial wins.

The survey results show marked declines in Tennesseans' favorability towards President George Bush and U.S. Senate Majority leader Bill Frist. However, the poll also reported that Tennessee voters did not penalize Harold Ford, Jr. because of their feelings about his uncle, State Sen. John Ford. In fact, Ford's position is stronger in this survey than Global Strategy Group's last poll in March.

In the Democratic primary, Ford leads State Senator Rosalind Kurita 5-to-1. While Ford's strength among Democrats has increased since the last poll in March, Kurita's has declined.

"The Global Strategy Group Poll clearly shows that the people of Tennessee are unhappy with the direction of the country. They want change; change in leadership, change in policies, and especially change in the character of government and many of the people in it. They are concerned about issues that matter most in their lives. They are not being distracted by irrelevancies and see in Harold Ford, Jr. a hopeful change for a better future," said Jim Hester, Harold Ford, Jr.'s Campaign Manager.

http://fordfortennessee.com/media/Ford1005PollMemo.pdf


:woohoo: in 'red' state Tennessee!

[Olney Blue]

27. That's great news about Tennessee!

GO FORD!!!!!!

[bleever]

30. Don't it turn your red state blue.

Great news!

:hi:

[Clark2008]

37. LOL!

You make Crystal Gayle proud.

And she's from Kentucky. :)

[RevCheesehead]

7. Olney!

Are you ready for some good SNARK? :hi:

[Olney Blue]

11. Yes, bring on the snark!

[Berry Cool]

4. So have the pandas!

But at least they're doing the honorable thing and getting married!

:hi: from Berry, now wait for After the Show!

[RevCheesehead]

12. and staying away from bad novelists.

Hiya, Berry after the Show (you know, you might want to change your screen name to that!). :hi:

[bleever]

6. Visualize Impeachment.

:hi:

[RevCheesehead]

13. I've been visualizing Whirled Peas...

but I'm getting kinda dizzy from that, so, OK. :)

[bleever]

15. I'm dizzy from watching Chalabi the crook return as honored guest.

:puke:

[Botany]

16. Chalabi

"Too many people have said said too many things and much have been said."

What a piece of crap! SOB hid in a car trunk fleeing Jordan after stealing
20 million plus from the national bank ..... no wonder he and Cheney get
along so well.

[bleever]

19. U of Chicago advanced math degree in "knot theory". He has

run circles around the neocons and played them like a cheap fiddle.

Why isn't he in handcuffs? My guess: the drunk person who leaked to Chalabi that we had broken that Iranian code was our own commander cuckoobananas. He's got 'em by the balls.

[Botany]

25. you might be right

An Iranian spy walks into Rice, Cheney, and Rummy's offices???

[RevCheesehead]

21. Well, since I can't get that pic linked directly, here's another:

Visualize Impeachment:

[SharonRB]

22. LOL

:rofl:

[bleever]

33. Telethon for Scooter! "Please help George's Kids".

:rofl:

[WolverineDG]

75. LOL rev

that's a good one! thanks for the :rofl: I really needed it tonight.

dg

[SharonRB]

76. Hi, DG

A bit late, no? I think I'm going to hit the sack early tonight. Nothing else on TV.

See all you folks tomorrow.

[WolverineDG]

81. had a meeting to go to

my killer headache came back around 8 so i begged off the rest of it. will be watching the tape in a few as soon as i'm done reading the thread.

dg

[RevCheesehead]

77. Hi, Wolvie

Bad day at the office?

Have a hug - it usually helps. :hug:

[WolverineDG]

80. oh god where to start

(1) still feeling icky
(2) electoral proof i'm surrounded by ignorant bigots
(3) broke up w/bf

:(

dg

[RevCheesehead]

82. Well then, you might want another hug:

:hug:

1. You'll get better, with lots of rest and fluids.
2. You're in America, Missy - that's who we are.
3. Now you're available for Keith - or the Maitre de. :)

[WolverineDG]

96. thanks rev

:hug:

dg

[Berry Cool]

83. Aww, Wolfie.

As Keith says to Dan, "Do you need a hug?"

:hug:

Sorry about all this.

And I really understand #2. Hey, I'm in Ohio, how can I not??

[WolverineDG]

97. thanks berry

:hug:


dg

[Botany]

14. Hi KO

And high above Gull Bay the mother Bay Air played with her cubs
and told them of KO, tranq darts, snark, EDVs, and what a sick pud
of a man Scooter Libby was.

BTW nice job KO "selection by the supreme court or a rigged
election." Ed Murrow is smiling somewhere!

[Olney Blue]

20. Hi Botany!

Nice bay airs.

[Botany]

58. did I ever tell you ....

that ....... ?

:rofl:

[Catherine Vincent]

18. Roger Cressey sure is a good looking dude!

Hi everybody! :hi: Both of them together like that just boggles my mind! :crazy:

[Olney Blue]

23. Hi catgirl!

:bounce:

How 'bout them Dems?

[SharonRB]

24. Hi, cat_girl

:hi:

[Clark2008]

28. Hi cat_girl.

:hi:

Welcome to the KOEB (at least from me - I don't think we've both been here on the same night).

[Catherine Vincent]

71. Thanks!

I used to visit more when it first started but got lazy after a while. I like to pop in every now and then just so Keith will know that I still dig him now that Patrick Fitzgerald has made it on the scene. <giggle> ;-)

[SharonRB]

26. Phony baloney balance...

:rofl:

[SharonRB]

29. Thus proving Darwin's theory of evolution

That was a great story in Dover, PA.

[Olney Blue]

34. "Save Scooter Fund"

won't be giving to that one.....

[Olney Blue]

35. I'm furious that Rove still has security clearance.

:grr:

[SharonRB]

36. You and me both

[SharonRB]

38. I almost forgot -- today is my one-year anniversary on DU

and yesterday was my 12-year anniversary at my job.

[Botany]

39. Congrats

I think this calls for a gift ....

You give me your U of M v OSU tickets? :rofl:


Ohio results .... funny we went against the national trend

Issue #1:
Poll: 53% YES, 27% NO, 20% Don't Know
Actual: 54.1% YES, 45.9% NO
YES was 1.1% off
----------------------------------------------------

Issue #2:
Poll: 59% YES, 33% NO, 9% Don't Know
Actual: 36.5% YES, 63.5% NO
YES was 22.5% off in favor of Blackwell

----------------------------------------------------
Issue #3:
Poll: 61% YES, 25% NO, 14% Don't Know
Actual: 33% YES, 67% NO

YES was 28% off in favor of Blackwell
----------------------------------------------------

Issue #4:
Poll: 31% YES, 45% NO, 25% Don't Know
Actual: 30.2% YES, 69.8% NO

YES was 0.8% off in favor of Blackwell
----------------------------------------------------

Issue #5:
Poll: 41% YES, 43% NO, 16% Don't Know
Actual: 29.8% YES, 70.2% NO

YES was 11.2% off in favor of Blackwell


Poll Link:
http://www.dispatch.com/election.php?story=dispatch/200...

Actual Link:
http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/ElectionsVoter/Results20...

Funny how the poll was accurate in Issue#1 and TOTALLY off for all but one of the election reform issues 2 thru 5, huh?

[SharonRB]

40. How did I know that was coming...as soon as I saw your post

How come men never know that "no" means "no"?

[Botany]

47. We know what you mean ......

:rofl:

[Olney Blue]

41. Congratulations!!!!!!

:toast:

[SharonRB]

44. Thanks, Olney

[RevCheesehead]

42. Ah, but which do you enjoy more?

Congrats, Sharon! I'm sure glad you found DU! :toast:

[SharonRB]

45. So am I

It has saved my sanity and kept me much more informed than I'd ever be without it. Also, I never would have "met" all you fine people had I not been here.

And, which do I enjoy more? They each serve their own purpose. I really enjoy my job, but I enjoy my time here with you people, too.

[bleever]

49. Here you go:

[SharonRB]

51. Thanks, Bleev

You remembered my favorite drink.

[WolverineDG]

79. happy anniversary, sharon!

you know what the traditional gift for the 1st anniversary is around here, right???

PAPER BALLOTS! :evilgrin:

dg

[SharonRB]

100. LOL

:rofl:

[RevCheesehead]

43. Oh, goodie - Gidget's back.

I love whatever she did with her hair. Very nice. :thumbsup:

[bleever]

46. Hi Monica. Please have my child.

He keeps interrupting me while I'm watching Countdown.

It's always great to see you.

:hi:

[RevCheesehead]

48. Were you propositioning Perky Girl?

:rofl:

How are ya, Bleev - and why don't you send the kid to mom? "Dad's busy with the news right now..." :)

[bleever]

57. Alas, I don't have enough class for an east coast girl like that.

And besides, I'm probably too tall for her.

But a feller can dream.

[Botany]

61. Awesome Pix!

I bet if Perky wasn't married, younger, rich, and not blind she would
be all over you!

[bleever]

66. She'd be all over me like Cheetos dust.

:rofl:

[RevCheesehead]

70. You mean Funyuns Dust.

Hey, pass me a slice of that pizza, wouldya?

[bleever]

72. Here ya go. It's from Monday, but it's still pretty chewable.

*Urp*

Scuse me. See, I got SOME class.

[RevCheesehead]

84. Mmmm... pretty good.

Are those capers?

[bleever]

88. Whoa, dude, those aren't capers, they're...uh...yeah, capers.

Here, have another piece.


(She's eating it!)


:rofl:

[RevCheesehead]

89. That's OK.

I just used your bathroom, and - um - you need some potpourri, man.

[Patsy Stone]

95. Aren't you missing something?

[bleever]

105. Now THAT'S something that the chicks really dig.

:)

[Botany]

50. KO so reads this ....

Funny just last friday I asked for some Perky

and we get Perky!

Thanks Keith.



News Quiz?????? this friday?????????

[bleever]

54. KO was the only one who responded to your thread!

Now THAT'S service.

:thumbsup:

[Botany]

56. It is my world .... and don't bring any meds into it.

You know the ones that keep my thoughts from being so scattered.
The ones the head doc gives me after i tell him about Bay Airs and
EDVs.

:rofl:

[bleever]

59. Reality is waaaay overrated.

Go with what got you this far.

:thumbsup:

[Berry Cool]

65. OK then, I guess I just have to ask Keith for what *I* want.

Keith, I want...

...no wait, I just realized, I can't ask him for *that* here, in front of God 'n' everybody. :blush:

[bleever]

67. Mary Mapes on Larry King right now.

[bleever]

52. House with wife: sounds like central vacuuming.

Sounds like a good idea, maybe, but eventually it'll break and become a nuisance.

[gkhouston]

101. yeah, but in the beginning

there's suction in every room in the house... ;-)

[bleever]

104. LOL.

The perfect comeback.

:toast:

[gkhouston]

106. no, dearest...

some would call it the perfect come-hither. :7

[Olney Blue]

53. Looks like Cindy Bradey is selling her house and herself....

:wtf:

[spooky3]

55. it's a pretty clever idea--Keith seemed to like her!

[Berry Cool]

60. Ah, he was genial as always

but I don't think he's into her.

Actually, I was surprised at how old she looked on TV vs. her photos. The photos on her Web site look either very flattering, or as if they were taken about 10 years ago...

As for Worst Person: LOL, I knew that story about the woman who smuggled a parrot in her bra was too good for him to pass up.

[spooky3]

63. I thought she looked good for 48!

[Berry Cool]

68. I said "Too much tanning, too much hair processing in her youth"

But I'm sure she's a very nice woman for all that.

And the house...well, that's cool.

[gkhouston]

102. she did look good for 48, but she looked different in the photos

could be that the pictures were old, or that she's spent too much time in the tanning booth recently or the studio lighting was harsh. Also, the light-colored lipstick/gloss was an unflattering choice, IMHO.

[bleever]

62. Hi, spooky.

Don't miss the article about Keef from today's SF Chron, posted by muffstser.

:hi:

[spooky3]

64. thanks for the tip, bleever!

:hi:

[Berry Cool]

69. It's an excellent article.

It's as if the guy channeled us all before he wrote it!

[bleever]

73. I assumed this was the source of your "The Future of News"

reference.

:hi:

[Berry Cool]

85. You assumed correctly. Bleev.

Right on the ball.

[spooky3]

74. I just read it and agree. But I'm afraid it KO did

"go network" they would constrain him so much (so as not to "offend" the redder and/or dumber parts of the audience) that he would lose his keefiness.

[bleever]

78. I'm watching Mary Mapes and boy, does that reinforce your point.

Stay on cable, Keef! That kind of heartache, you don't need, buddy.

[Berry Cool]

86. I would not be happy for Keef to go network if it meant restraint.

They'd have to let him go on being Keith, or there'd be no point to putting him there at all. It would be useless to put him on network and then expect him to do the exact same stuff in the chair that anchors have been doing since TV began...and only for a half an hour. Uh-uh.

What I'd like to see is someone get visionary enough to imagine what it would be like to have a network news hour like Keith does his hour. Not just take Keith and plop him down in the Dan Rather or Peter Jennings role.

It's about time someone suggested it might even be a GOOD idea. I was getting pretty sick of hearing people tout Jon Stewart's name, for heaven's sake, as a potential network news anchor while no one even mentioned Keith. I mean, he's great at what he does, but come on. Let's not get carried away.

[RevCheesehead]

87. Hell, I think NBC should put Keith on primetime NETWORK.

Full hour. Up against something stupid and vapid, like oh - Trump or The Dukes of Hazzard Reunion.

[bleever]

90. Here's the thing:

Never, ever in the world we live in will KO get a full hour on network news, and the guy needs a big field to play on, with all he brings to the game. The only thing I would wish for him was many millions of more viewers, as he deserves.


But maybe you're ahead of me, and fuck "network news" and have a program that just happens to track the news and have fabulous media and political contacts in addition to being entertaining and informative in a less corporate-news-megaphony way.

The Network News model is broken. Put him on in prime time, when the grown-ups are watching TV.

YEEEEEEAAAAAAARGH!

[RevCheesehead]

91. Yeah - pull those viewers away from Loofah King.

Or Larry O'Leilly. Or whatever.

I'd still recommend the same time-slot. KOEBers need constancy.

[Patsy Stone]

94. If for no other reason

than we're not so good with change. :hi:

[RevCheesehead]

98. Well, well, well...

Lookie who popped in this week! Hiya, Pats! :hi:

[Patsy Stone]

92. Never say never...

Stranger things have happened: The Tony Danza Show. 'k? I think I've made my point. :hi:

I read that Chronicle article. Quite lovely. So proud of him and us for spotting talent wherever it hides in the deep recesses of cable.

[Berry Cool]

99. Well said, bleev!

And I like the Howard Deanism thrown in at the end too!

Can't you almost see the youthful Keith, right now?...

"Look! It doesn't MATTER that I had to load up on credits insanely in my final year at Cornell just to graduate on time. Know why? Because I'm goin' RIGHT to RKO Radio! And THEN I'm goin' to CNN! And THEN I'm goin' to a station in Boston! And THEN I'm goin' to a couple of stations in LA! And THEN I'm goin' to ESPN! And THEN I'm gonna piss everyone off and THEN I'm goin' to MSNBC! And THEN I'm gonna get tired of covering Monicagate and THEN I'm goin' to Fox Sports! And THEN I'm gonna get tired of working for the Evil Empire and they're gonna get tired of me and THEN I'm gonna go to ABC Radio! And THEN I'm gonna do some radio reports on 9/11 and win some more awards! And THEN I'm gonna go back to MSNBC!...And THEN I'm goin' to network TV, and I'm gonna TAKE BACK PEOPLE'S EYEBALLS!!!!! YEEEEEEEAAAAAAARGH!"

...Well, even if the last part doesn't come true, we still :loveya: Keith.

[gkhouston]

103. I can't see him agreeing to "go network" without some

contract language that would allow him to retain his Keefiness. There was a time when I didn't think the broadcast networks would be desperate enough to go for something like that. Now, I'm not so sure.

[Patsy Stone]

93. That was a great article.

I missed the show, but if I'm awake, I'll try and catch the rerun.
Hi all! Nice to stop in a say hi, even for a minute, out of sync.


For KO, the future of broadcast news. :loveya: