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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 11:40 AM
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selling Indian artifacts on eBay!!
Damn it makes me angry as all hell!

I guess the powers that be on eBay don't know what the hell they are doing and what the FEDERAL laws are regarding Indian artifacts. I just wrote them a letter telling them what I thought and I site the following:

There is a FEDERAL law that pertains to selling Indian artifacts. These items MUST be returned to the tribe that they belonged to. This person selling Indian artifacts on eBay is committing a felony by selling items that belong to Indians that were likely killed/murdered! This makes me so mad I could spit! I am an archaeologist and I know all about the laws that protect these SACRED items.

You eBay need to learn a few things!

and I quote:

"OREGON

Citation: Indian Graves and Protected Objects (Or. Rev. Stat. §97.740 to §97.760); Archaeological Objects and Sites (Or. Rev. Stat. §358.905 to §358.955).

Date Enacted: 1981

Summary: The law states that no person will willfully remove, mutilate, deface, injure or destroy any cairn or grave of any Native American. Anyone who inadvertently disturbs a native Indian grave, including by construction, mining, logging or agricultural activity, will at their own expense reinter the human remains under the supervision of the appropriate Indian tribe. It is illegal to possess any native Indian artifacts or human remains taken from a native Indian cairn or grave on or after October 3, 1979. It is illegal to publicly display or exhibit native Indian human remains or sell any native Indian artifacts or human remains taken from any native Indian cairn or grave. The law does not apply to possession or sale of native Indian artifacts from sources other than native Indian cairns or graves or artifacts removed from cairns or graves by other than human sources. Any discovered remains suspected to be native Indian shall be reported to the state police, the State Historic Preservation Officer, the appropriate Indian tribe, and the Commission on Indian Services. A professional archaeologist may excavate a native Indian cairn or grave and remove material objects and human remains, if it is necessary to protect the burial from imminent destruction. Any person who disturbs native Indian remains or a funerary object at or associated with an archaeological site shall reinter at their own expense those remains or objects under the supervision of an Indian tribe. Written consent of the appropriate Indian tribe in the vicinity is required, as is written notification to the State Historic Preservation Officer, prior to excavation. Failure by the tribe to respond within 30 days will be deemed consent. All material objects and human remains removed during an excavation, following scientific study, will be reinterred at the archaeologist's expense under the supervision of the Indian tribe. Indian tribes are those that are recognized by the Secretary of the Interior, listed in the Klamath Termination Act or listed in the Western Oregon Indian Termination Act.

Jurisdiction: All native Indian cairns, graves and burials on lands in Oregon.
Statute of Limitations: Civil action must be brought within two years of the discovery of the violation.
Areas Covered Under Act: Only native Indian cairns and burials and the human remains and grave goods within them.
Ownership: Not specified.
Review/Consultation Committee: Consultation with Indian tribe in the vicinity of the action is mandated.
Liable: Anyone who knowingly violates the law by willfully removing, mutilating, defacing, injuring or destroying any cairn or grave of any Native American. It is illegal to possess any native Indian artifacts or human remains taken from a native Indian cairn or grave on or after October 3, 1979. It is illegal to publicly display or exhibit native Indian human remains, sell any native Indian artifacts or human remains taken from any native Indian cairn or grave.
Penalties: Civil penalties are the most common penalty for violations. Criminal action may be filed using general criminal penalty statutes.
Exemptions: The law does not apply to possession or sale of native Indian artifacts from sources other than native Indian cairns or graves or artifacts removed from cairns or graves by other than human sources.
Permitting: The SHPO in consultation with the appropriate Indian tribe will issue permission for a professional archaeologist to excavate a native Indian cairn or grave if the burial is in imminent danger of destruction."

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Do yourself and eBay a favor. Do not allow Indian artifacts to be sold on eBay. It is like selling remnants of the holocaust to the public for God's sake! Does greed have no bounds?

:grr: :grr: :grr:

:dem:

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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-19-06 02:49 PM
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1. more on this *ack!!!!*
Edited on Fri May-19-06 02:56 PM by CountAllVotes
http://reviews.ebay.com/INDIAN-GRAVE-DIGGINGS-FOR-SALE-ON-eBAY_W0QQugidZ10000000000691070?ssPageName=BUYGD:CAT:-1:LISTINGS:2

>> Update 5/12/06
Probably one of the most despicable examples of grave digging and looting is that by the grandfather of President George Bush,Prescott Bush and his cohorts and Army personnel when they dug the bones of Geronimo the Chiricahua Apache Chief from their burial place at Fort Sill,Oklamona.They captured bones and other grave items in an apparent college prank to found the infamous and controversial Yale Skull and Bone Society. Type those words in any search engine and you will discover well documented article after article about this secret society and its members. The most recent is by Stephen Singer,who writes in Common Dreams News Center May 9,06,and quotes a letter found by Marc Wortman a reasearcher,that was written by Winter Mead in 1918, it reads and I quote,The Skull of the worthy Geronimo the Terrible,exhumed from its tomb at Fort Sill by your club.....is now safe inside the (Tomb) together with his well worn femurs,bit,&saddle horn.Absolutely despicable in attitude and intent! It is a well known fact that both President George Bush and Sen.John Kerry belong to the secret Skull and Bones Society. Perhaps the root of the personal difficulties of both aspiring leaders are directly related to their involvement in this society and the fact that even though they are now very powerful people they have apparently done absolutely nothing to return the burial remains or loot to the Geronimo family or the Chiricahua Apache tribe. President Bush certainly could come clean on this issue as a matter of business and order these remains and loot to be returned to the family for a safe burial. He could right a major intergenerational and intercultural wrong that has existed since the 1900's by his simple act. What if the moccasins were on another foot and someone had dug up his Grandfather Prescott Bush's skull to place in a secret vault at Harvard to kiss in a weird secret ceremony of aspiring fearful runny nosed graduates?
Respectfully,
Woody <<

Woah!!! Unfreakinbelievable!


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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 04:23 AM
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2. damn
just no bounds...:(
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-23-06 01:00 PM
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3. I couldn't believe that statement I found on eBay's site
:wtf: is wrong with this people? I guess the answer is simple - greedy SOBs! :puke:

Return these objects to the tribes! Enforce the damn laws - they are FEDERAL laws! This is so disgusting I can barely think straight!



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