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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-28-07 10:46 PM
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Anybody debunk "A History Lesson"?
I got a much forwarded email titled "A History Lesson" Of course, it's RW bullshit. I taught history, and I know bullshit when I see it. I don't have the time to go thru it point by point, and I can't find it on snopes. Does anybody out in DU-land have a pre-canned debunk? It's much longer than this, but this selection should help identify the particular RW rant.

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SOME OF YOU ARE NOT OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THAT NEARLY EVERY FAMILY IN AMERICA WAS GROSSLY AFFECTED BY WW II. MOST OF YOU DON'T REMEMBER THE RATIONING OF MEAT, SHOES, GASOLINE, AND SUGAR. NO TIRES FOR OUR AUTOMOBILES, AND A SPEED LIMIT OF 35 MILES AN HOUR ON THE ROAD, NOT TO MENTION, NO NEW AUTOMOBILES. READ THIS AND THINK ABOUT HOW WE WOULD REACT TO BEING TAKEN OVER BY FOREIGNERS IN 2007.

This is an EXCELLENT essay. Well, thought out and presented.
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We have four options:

1 . We can defeat the Jihad now, before it gets nuclear weapons.

2 . We can fight the Jihad later, after it gets nuclear weapons (which may be as early as next year, if Iran 's progress on nuclear weapons is whatIran claims it is).

3 . We can surrender to the Jihad and accept its dominance in the Middle East now; in Europe in the next few years or decades, and ultimately inAmerica.

OR

4 . We can stand down now, and pick up the fight later when the Jihad is more widespread and better armed, perhaps after the Jihad has dominatedFrance and Germany and possibly most of the rest of Europe. It will, of course, be more dangerous, more expensive, and much bloodier.

If you oppose this war, I hope you like the idea that your children, or grandchildren, may live in an Islamic America under the Mullahs and the Sharia, an America that resembles Iran today.
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Americans who oppose the liberation of Iraq are coming down on the side of their own worst enemy!

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Raymond S. Kraft is a writer living in Northern California that has studied the Middle Eastern culture and religion

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Please consider passing along copies of this article to students in high school, college and university as it contains information about the American past that is very meaningful today -- history about America that very likely is completely unknown by them (and their instructors, too). By being denied the facts of our history, they are at a decided disadvantage when it comes to reasoning and thinking through the issues of todaybi They are prime targets for misinformation campaigns beamed at enlisting them in causes and beliefs that are special interest agenda driven.

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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 09:41 AM
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1. Ah, the old "Eurabia" bullshit
I don't know enough to debunk this point by point, but it bears repeating that Muslims only make up around 5% of Europe's population, and most 2nd and 3rd generation children of Muslim immigrants are pretty well assimilated into European society. The boogeyman stories about Europe being under Sharia law in 35 years are simply a rehash of the same things the RW used to say about Catholics and Jews.
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 10:46 AM
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2. Nothing to debunk here
It's nothing but a bunch of redneck speculation. The only actual history is that bit about WWII rationing, and how this relates to "stomping out the Jihad" is completely beyond me. :shrug:


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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-13-07 10:28 PM
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3. try here.
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