Think DU has trolls and flamewars?

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Check out this Canon fanboy flaming on a Nikon user site...Halfway down the page. BTW: The OP is pretty wrong. Nov only has 30 days in it.;)

http://www.nikonians.org/dcforum/DCForumID124/145.html

[DS1]

1. Eh, the Nikon sensors always look washed-out to me

:-)

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2. Yeah? Well Coward also starts with a "C"

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5. Only because Canons over-saturate as bad as a point and shoot

toy :) :) :)

[RagingInMiami]

3. The Canon and Nikon wars are notorious on photo websites

The Nikon users are the traditionalists because Nikon has long been the choice for pros. But the Canon users consider themselves on the cutting edge of photography because Canon has revolutionized the digital camera.

To use a college football analogy, it's like the Nebraska, Oklahoma and Notre Dame teams compared to the Miami Hurricanes, Florida State Seminoles and Florida Gators. The first three teams were powerhouses for decades while the Florida teams were just average or even worse.

Then came the 1980s and the Florida teams began dominating with their speed and long passes, leaving fans of the older teams complaining that the Florida teams have no "tradition."

When I decided to buy my first film SLR just over six years ago, I was torn between Nikon and Canon. I spent weeks researching both brands and I finally settled on Canon because I read Canon was equally as good as Nikon, but a little more user friendly.

Now I shoot with a Canon digital SLR and I have no regrets.

[regnaD kciN]

4. Which is interesting, because...

...my twenty-plus-year-old "film" :wow: camera is a Canon, but when I went digital, I went with a Nikon.

[RagingInMiami]

7. You just had to be different

Didn't you

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6. Really, the deciding factor for me was the way it felt in my hand.

I couldn't afford a pro-level camera, and the 350D was the only Canon in my price range. When I held both it and the Nikon D70, there was no question which felt most comfortable to actually use.

Another motivator was that the Nikon, unlike Canon's newer models, can use Nikon lenses going back a very long way. Canon switched their AF system a while back and anything made before that won't work with the newer cameras.

So, I have easier access to used glass. . . . of course if used glass was my only motivator, I would've gone with Pentax . . . you can use every Pentax lens ever made on a *ist D (or DS or DL).

If I'd had more money to spend, Nikon probably would have been out of the picture and Minolta would have been my first choice because of the integrated AS.

[RagingInMiami]

8. That's the bottom line, right there

If you google "canon vs nikon" or "canon nikon flamewar" in both "web" and in "groups" you will get all kinds of hits, and if you read through all jabs at each other, you will read posts by people saying go with what feels better in your hand.

When it comes down to it, both brands are winners.

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9. Exactly. If it's not comfortable, you won't spend as much time using it.

Both systems are equally capable of generating outstanding photographs.

Knowing that, it's up to the photographer to use the equipment as best he can.

I posted links to some threads a while back of a guy using a Nikon D100 that blew away most shots I've seen from newer/higher resolution/higher tech dSLR's (look here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=280x8000 ). It's more about having quality glass and a knowledgeable/skilled photographer than it is about which camera you use.

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10. After being a student of photography for 15 years or so...

...I have yet to come to the point of such massive skill where I can tell which brand of camera took which shot. Most of the major brands are so good, that comparisons of image quality between them are really moot.

It's not the toy, it's how you use it that matters.
I've got co-workers with new Canons/Olympei (is that the plural?)/Nikons, etc. with all the full kit shit that online stores are giving away, including extra lenses and cheap tripods. They show me their pics of sunsets, clouds, back yards, etc. and I say..."Please tell me you didn't spend $1000 just so you can take pictures of the sky. Get out! Take it with you, and break out of your safety zone. You bought it, now REALLY use it." Some people buy all this equipment and never take a picture. It's sad really.

I think it really comes down to people want their purchasing decisions validated, and they see others who chose differently as a criticism of their choices, so they kick into fanboy mode as a defense. The sports teams analogy is spot on too.

Remember..."My Colecovision can beat up your Intellivision", crap from years ago in high school?

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11. Absolutely - more people need to try something differnet with their

cameras - and as a result I've gone from taking pictures of football games in the stands, to taking pictures on-field AND have been contracted to build the school an entire library of digital photos of campus, students, professors - basically anything photogenic :D

I have smallish hands, to the Rebel fits will for me, but if I could get my hands on the enormous 1Ds, I'd own it forever

[F.Gordon]

12. That seems pretty tame

I don't "do" other photo forums anymore but I've seen flame wars that are far more abrasive than that one..... and I've even participated in a few myself.
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Nothing pisses me off more than selfish subjective priority snipping. I recently saw a photograph posted in a critique forum that I really liked... it was immediately blasted for being so bad that nothing could be done to "fix" it. I thought that was pretty harsh... so...

I played with it and gave the photog the info on what I did with it in my own unique style. ;) In doing so I kinda' sorta threw a few digs in toward the techno-photo-freaks.

Nikon vs Canon? **yawn**

I'll search forums for info... if I'm trying to figure out how to remove the lens cap or which end of the camera I'm supposed to look in.... but I don't "do" other photo forums anymore.

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13. It is, but it's not the first time I've seen it.

Canon vs. Nikon thing is so silly. **YAWN* is right.

No matter what brand they use, I'm just happy to be around people that don't say..."Oh' GAWD! Not again? Do you have to get that thing out everytime I get a slurpie at 7-Eleven or pee at a Sinclair station? You're like a damn Japanese tourist. Not one more pic-*snap*- Hey! I mean it Dammit. No more...*snap*...HEY! Want to sleep on the couch?"

Then I put it away.