*** Photo Contest Rules Poll #1: Frames ***

[JeffR]

Visual aid for choice #4:



Visual aid for choice #5 (edited to add that I used a <center> tag on this):

[Mira]

1. Before I head out allow my opinion

I think the gray DU box is very elegant. Never considered it would work for a photo.
Wonder how it would look with a vertical layout?
I think it's gorgeous because it sets it off gently without intrusion and it centers it on my page.
It could be because the framing lends itself to that extremely beautiful photograph, but that depiction would get my vote.
To me, it does not look like "framing" - it looks like "presenting".

I like the white border situation, I think that would be so rare an occurrence that the host and the artist could come to an agreement without rules beforehand, considering the Csar-Csarina powers they have.

I think a polling of GD about frames is not that appropriate.
We are the photographers and decide that sort of thing amongst ourselves, imo.
They vote on emotion and in ways we don't always grasp (BUT damn if they don't hone in often on our very best work)
I still think they might be consulted on size, and given a trial run in a larger size and a poll about it.
They are the ones with the monitor sizes and the dial ups.

About Rob's desk:
I forgot the question, but I'm all for it, if it's positive and appreciative.

Don't know how to mark a poll with these answers, except to say i am against arbitrary framing. Imagine the hodgepodge and visual clutter this could produce.

Thanks for reading this.

[JeffR]

2. Thanks for your thoughts.

I just edited the poll to point out I used a <center> tag on the photo in the blockquote.

[Schema Thing]

3. I really like the "DU quote-box" idea... except if I'm hosting, lol.

It is a little extra work for the host.

It would go a long way towards *equalizing* verticals and horizontals, and even size differences would be equalized somewhat (such as my picture in this last contest).

[Celebration]

4. the extra trouble is why I didn't vote for it

It seems like a LOT of extra trouble.

[Mz Pip]

12. Me, too

I've had problems getting the gray box around text in the prelims. Wouldn't want to try to do it for 30 photos. Ugh.

[JeffR]

8. It might help set each image off, though the links really need to be centered

or they'll look silly on a wide monitor. And by the way, your picture in this last contest, I meant to comment on how great the exposure is in what must have been a tricky light. Over and above the wonderful aliveness of the model and a perfect framing of the scene. It's special.

[ManiacJoe]

5. I like the gray-quote idea.

However, I have no problem letting some pics have frames for the purpose of offsetting their light background from the white page background (option 3).

If we go with the gray-quote idea, I can see where some gray pics could need a frame for the background offsetting.

[CC]

6. you have a point there

and remind me why going through the rules again was something I was so happy Jeff took up.

Truthfully to do each photo in its own gray box is allowing 30 more chances of making a mistake somewhere. Don't the host have enough stress worrying about mistakes already? I mean missing a simple enter can realign photos.:blush: Just thinking out loud and making Jeff's life a bit difficult.

[Tindalos]

7. I don't like the quote box

It looks too blocky and contrived. I think a whole page of them would be ugly. The small grey border around the top photo looks better, but it wouldn't necessarily work with all pictures.

I haven't decided how to vote on the framing "issue" yet.

[Adsos Letter]

9. Hey! I like these photos! Have we seen them before?

I pretty much agree with Tindalos on this one; it isn't so much the size of the frame, but the color. The second one seems distracting to me, while the first one works because the frame helps accent the tones in that Spiegelau Crystal vase. If white backgrounds were allowed a choice of color for that frame style it could work very well, but might just overly complicate things.

Whatever it is should at least be uniform in size and, I would think, very minimalist.

ON EDIT: yeah...actually, I guess it IS the size of the frame...along with the other stuff I blurbled my way through.

*sigh* (considers option of drinking a cold one, or going to bed...maybe both, and not necessarily in the order mentioned)

[CaliforniaPeggy]

10. I'll be the curmudgeon...NO frames.

I'm just lazy, and not technically proficient at these...

:shrug:

[blueraven95]

11. In this case,

I voted for the no frames, except for photos with a white background, but I think it also needs a set standard acceptable frame.

[MattSh]

13. My thinking...

A subtle frame like the first one should be allowed for any picture. Just state that it must be no more than 10 pixels on each side, then let people decide whether to do it, and if so, how...

[JeffR]

14. Kick. Leaving these up until Sunday.

:kick:

[Sheepshank]

15. didn't I write a long well thought our commentary?

pretty sure I did, and I think it was on the amazing side. Insightful, clever free use of three syllable words...it had everything, wit, concern, pictures, diagrams and a chart. Not that I was trying to say anyone to my way of thinking ;). But since it's not here and I absolutely can't recreate the original, I'll paraphrase.

"No" on the frames unless the backround of the picture disappears and the picture looks like it's "hanging" in free air.....unless the photographer is going for that look.

[BrightKnight]

16. The quote block is distracting and ugly.

I would never put a image behind a pastel, blue gray mat. Also, I would never choose a weird shape like that.

Presenting an image is not like finding a tie that matches your suit or jewelry that enhances your appearance. Presenting an image is about eliminating all distractions and letting the image speak for itself.

The simple, clean, standard white border works very well. I wouldn't have a problem with a line or bevel if the image needed it.

[HappyCynic]

17. Block quote problem...

Probably not an issue given the vote tally so far but there's a problem that I see with the block quotes.
If your browser window is wide, the block quote sides are extended, so it no longer "hugs" the sides of the photo like this:



For really wide browser windows, the block quote extends with the window for Opera but eventually stops extending out for IE and Firefox (still well away from the sides of the photo, though).

[JeffR]

18. Kick! Another 24 hours to vote, comment and/or snark.

:dunce: