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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 07:26 AM
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Kerry demands US troop pullout - BG
We have the mandatory minimum of snark coming from the Boston Globe, but aside that, the article articulates the problem:

1/ Kerry has stated his position and his position is clear.
2/ Some Democrats are afraid of the GOP
3/ The GOP is too happy to exploit the dissension among Democrats.

Good to see the Kerry is negotiating with other Democrats to have more support.

And a good sign too (and a lot of thanks to Boxer): She co-sponsored Kerry's amendment.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/06/14/kerry_demands_us_troop_pullout/

Regrets his vote for war resolution

By Rick Klein, Globe Staff | June 14, 2006

WASHINGTON -- Senator John F. Kerry is placing himself at the center of congressional action over the war in Iraq this week with a crisply worded resolution to require President Bush to withdraw almost all US troops by the end of this year.

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``My friends, war is no excuse for its own perpetuation," Kerry said before a group of cheering liberal activists who had gathered in Washington yesterday for a ``Take Back America" conference. ``It is essential to acknowledge that the war itself was a mistake -- to say the simple words that contain more truth than pride. . . . It was wrong and I was wrong to vote for that Iraqi war resolution."

It was a concise distillation of principles that Kerry, the Massachusetts Democrat, did not produce in the presidential campaign, during which his language on Iraq prompted attacks from the Bush campaign that he was weak and inconsistent.

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The proposal would keep US troops in Iraq to train Iraqis and a significant force elsewhere in the region. But the provision to withdraw almost all other troops from Iraq by the end of the year appears to be certain to fail in a lopsided vote. Democrats control only 44 of the 100 Senate seats, and even many Democrats say they do not believe setting a firm deadline for troop withdrawals is advisable, because it could encourage the insurgency. ...

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Kerry said he is working with Senate Democratic leaders to negotiate possible changes to his resolution that could unite the Democratic caucus; a vote is likely to be held tomorrow . Several prominent Democrats have endorsed a gradual drawdown of troops, which they refer to as a ``phased redeployment," with a looser deadline than Kerry would set.
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Yet Kerry said he is adamant that there be a firm date for troops to leave Iraq, so that responsibility for Iraqi security will clearly shift to Iraqis. Kerry's insistence on bringing his proposal up for a vote puts some Democrats in a difficult spot, and is likely to be viewed as an early test for 2008 Democratic presidential contenders.



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Kerry's push for a quick withdrawal could help him with liberals, but it could also play into Republican hands. Republicans are eager to knock down Kerry's proposal -- particularly in the wake of the president's visit to Baghdad yesterday and the killing of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi -- as a way to exploit Democratic divisions and portray the Republican Party as steadfast in its commitment to defeating terrorism.
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Kerry said he is tuning out Republican criticism as ``scare tactics" designed to avoid a real discussion of the Bush administration's war position.

``It's time to stand up and make clear to them we're not going to get pushed around," he said in the interview.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 07:59 AM
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1. Thanks for posting this. Encouraging news!
Good to see that Boxer is now supporting him and that he is working with other Dem's.
It is also obvious that some Democrats are frightened of the GOP, but they need to finally understand that going along plays into their hands. As Kerry states, "It's time to stand up and make clear to them we're not going to get pushed around". The media is out playing up the Rove fear factor and already has the Dem's as being to weak and without ideas to go up against him.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:28 AM
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2. Post in GD, kiddo - this one really lays it out. GB finally acts decently
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:49 AM
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3. This is very nice
Yay Boxer!
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 08:51 AM
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4. Excellent news about Boxer!
Restores my faith in her - I was surprised to think she'd have taken sides against JK.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 10:29 AM
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5. Great stuff!
Boxer is on board! Cool!
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 12:11 PM
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6. More Biden on the issue (this guy is a pompous ass)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,199481,00.html

I'm glad. Will you oppose what Senators Kerry and Reid and Levin and Feinstein are apparently putting together and will propose Wednesday?

BIDEN: I don't know. I was part of the group with Levin, my staff and his are meeting. To the best of my knowledge, Reid is not proposing a hard date to leave. I believe Sen. Kerry announced in his speech Tuesday he wanted all the troops out by the end of this year. I understand his frustration, but I don't think that's a plan.

What my hope is, that we lay out a consensus amendment among Democrats saying: Look, we have to do, we find the following three things have to be dealt with, boom, boom, boom, and if we do that, then give the military 18 months to plan a rational exit based upon leaving something stable behind.


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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 12:35 PM
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8. He is a pompous ass - and his answer is stupid on the surface
Why do we find 3 things that have to be dealt with - what if there are 2 or 4 and since 2003, shouldn't Biden have identified them. Also he puts them first and then he gives the military 18 months to plan a rational (?) exit. This is as much a non-plan as Bush's and it won't have the soldiers out till 2008. Kerry articulated a plan with a coherent diplomatic piece and an exit plan. There can be no consensus plan with Biden putting in 18 months of wasted time.

Biden is the type of politician who is willing to let soldiers die.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 12:33 PM
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7. Thanks for posting. Good for Barbara Boxer!
She has to be one of the most sincere Senators we have. She speaks her mind and votes her conscience.

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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 03:31 PM
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9. Posted about this on the Dem Daily
Included a smack down of some of Klein's snark and more - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=3309
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 09:50 PM
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10. reak good coverage on your piece. I really enjoyed it. n/t
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-14-06 11:15 PM
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11. Do you have any more info on Boxer?
The Congressional record does not list any co-sponsors.

Thanks!
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