Kos Convention ?

[JI7]

Kos Convention ? HAHAHHAhahAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH there is a fucking Kos Convention ???????????? HAHAHHAHAHAHHAhAhAHHAHAHAHhaha

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2655505

[ProSense]

1. I saw that!

This is who they're pushing:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2659076&mesg_id=2659076

An interesting article:

It shouldn't be so surprising, then, that the lead architect of the YearlyKos convention is a married, 36-year-old Memphis native named Gina Cooper, who until recently taught high-school math and science. (Moulitsas lent his trademark to the conference, but the whole enterprise was proposed and organized by some 25 volunteers.) Though she had never before been involved in politics, Cooper began to blog, in between classes and when she came home at night, during the weeks before the invasion of Iraq. In just a few short years, at the dawn of the online age, Cooper has gone from banging out her first musings on politics to speaking from the dais of a hotel ballroom, standing alongside the Democratic Party's most powerful figures. She says she hopes the convention will show politicians that the bloggers are just ordinary Americans — and vice versa. "I think we need to see leaders as people," Cooper told me recently. "If we keep seeing leaders as magical and distant from us, then we have every reason in the world not to see ourselves as leaders too."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/28/magazine/28wwln_lede.htm

[beachmom]

7. Forgive me -- where does it say they're supporting Warner?

These people are unbelievable -- I thought they're all against the war. Warner doesn't seem to know what to do, which shows his lack of expertise on FP. I'm telling you that he was an awesome governor, but seems over his head on Iraq. Please don't think less of him in domestic issues; he got all the kids in Virginia on health insurance. Nobody can take that away from him, even a poorly worded "position" on Iraq.

[JohnKleeb]

8. Jerome Armstrong- the so called blogfather

and friend of Markos is part of Warner's campaign. I agree with what you're saying about Warner though. He did a lot of good for our state though he doesn't know much about foreign policy, more than i do of course but its me we're talking here.

[ProSense]

10. In the article about Armstrong, and

Kos has said it too:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=273&topic_id=85362&mesg_id=85362

No taking Warner's accomplishments away, but his position on the war is horrible.

[JohnKleeb]

11. If they give him a Trippi style makeover the same way

Trippi did with Dean by that I mean they'll make a moderate democrat out to be a big liberal and attack the ones who are more liberal than him from the left, I'll laugh and cry some.

[JohnKleeb]

2. Yep

and honestly if Kos can sell Dean as being more to the left of Kerry, he'll try to do that with Warner much to my eternal laughter.

[paulk]

3. well, looks like Warner's chances have just gone right out

the window!

What's KOS, like 0 - 16 in backing candidates?

[JohnKleeb]

4. Yeah that or 17

Which is one of the reasons why I don't take him seriously.

[paulk]

5. I wonder if Warner is really aware

of who Kos is? Does he really think the support of Kos will help him?

[JohnKleeb]

6. Ya got me

I wish he would stay away from him. If I were running for office here I wouldn't go near him and if possible distance myself form him and those like him. I think the best campaigns often are run by people who know and understand the candidate best. I know that a lot of Kerry's high campaign ops were people who have been with him since the early years.

[demdiva]

13. I wanted to like him

One of my friends is working for him and LOVES the guy, but I was not at all impressed when he was on the MTP this spring. I really wanted to like him ...Maybe he will be a better candidate in a year or two ???

[JohnKleeb]

14. Who Warner?

I kinda admit htat my bias towards him is because I am a Virginian.

[demdiva]

16. Yeah ... from the way everyone was talking about him

I really thought I'd like him way more then I did.

on edit ... sorry I think I said that like five times in three posts!

[JohnKleeb]

20. He's more a domestics guy

I guess this is why I'll still support Kerry over him because I thikn Kerry has the better grasp on foreign policy and these days like it or not you need a grasp on foreign policy if you want to do well. Perhaps Warner could end up knowing foreign policy well because two of our biggest foreign policy buff presidents, Wilson and FDR were governors and intially wanted to be all about domestics. I read that Wilson had going in to office wanted to focus on domestic issues then he became the president that started the change of the presidency form isolationist on foreign affairs to internationalist.

[demdiva]

23. He does seem to have done a great job in Virginia

[JohnKleeb]

26. He did

Kaine's doing a great job too. The real battleground in Virginia seems to be in the state legislature where moderate republicans (yeah they exist down ehre) and democrats fight conservative republicans. Main issues are tazes. Not all of our delegates and state senators have taxaphobia.

[demdiva]

17. Oh p.s. I totally understand the bias

I'm the same way with Obama

[JohnKleeb]

18. Yeah

It's no wonder why the old time conventoins used to have "favorite son" candidates. Obama and Durbin are great by the way.

[demdiva]

19. I'm very lucky

Too bad since I live in DC now I really have no Senators ... so I still claim them as my own

[JohnKleeb]

21. DC needs to have senators and a voting representive

I mean their votes count in the electoral college but they don't get representation.

[demdiva]

25. yeah....even if we did get them i'm not sure i'd want to claim them

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/01/AR2006020102363.html
http://www.dcolympicteam.org/

A friend of mine is working on this DC Curling Team campaign ... it cracks me up

[BlueIris]

46. Snerk.

Truth is, though, if I can't have JK, I'd rather have Warner than Feingold. And I think Kos knows that.

Shithead.

[demdiva]

9. Kos and Armstrong are on Tim Russert now ... and making my blood boil

They (meaning Kos ...Armstrong only spoke a couple of times) said a couple things I agreed with ... I was actually starting to feel encouraged.

They pretty much said that Kerry ran on the right issues and the right message but it was the Democratic Party's infrastructure that failed him. (not quite that directly of course). I personally think Kerry campaign made a couple mistakes, as all campaigns do, but I mostly blame the Democratic Party, both not for building an infrastructure and not for doing their part to support the Kerry Edwards campaign. So I was happy he said this too. Kos did critique the democrats tendency to over complicate messages, but that was fine .... a constructive criticism.

However then they started going off about the DC bubble stuff...all these DC bubble democrats are ruining the party. They are totally out of touch. They are doing everything for sunday morning shows (this of course made Tim chuckle). Only Russ Feingold, Mark Warner and Harry Reid are liked by bloggers because they are not DC insiders (huh???the majority leader).

Basically, Kos has decided that his bloggers represent the entire Democratic Party. He doesn't buy that there is a progressive wing and a DLC wing to the party, he thinks we are completely a unified party and most of the DC democrats are ignoring most of non-DC democrats. While, I would like to think that we are a unified party, I just don't want to be a unified DailyKos party. For that matter I don't want to be a unified DU party either.

Blood is a boiling....

[blm]

12. I posted about that, too, out in GD-P. Seems to me Kos is planning on

using the Feingold internet support to coopt it later for Warner. I get mad sometimes at Feingold and some supporters but I sure as hell don't want them used, they're still a sort of family here.

[demdiva]

15. True that

I like Feingold for what he represents in the party ... his voice is a worthy one. But I certainly don't want to see him or anyone like him be our President. And no matter what Kos thinks, most "real Americans" don't want that either. I think Kos is the blogger bubble.

[ginnyinWI]

44. cynical and arrogant

That was my impression of them on that show! Ugh. Who would want to be Dems like they are--not anybody watching that show last night.

And speaking of bubbles, those guys are in one themselves, and they don't even realize it. I will NOT be reading their book. They kept going on and on about Washington politicians. While it may be true of some, it isn't true of Kerry, especially after he did get out and see the country. He and Edwards got a better education about what America is all about than anybody else in recent times.

But no, they want "fresh blood". Why is that so good? It makes no sense. :shrug:

[demdiva]

45. i totally agree with you

[demdiva]

22. What will you all give me if I write a post for DKos

called the "The Kos Bubble" and post it on DKos???? I might have death threats taken out against me.

[JohnKleeb]

24. Hell may as well bring up his record

He's like the '62 Mets,
For oyu non-sports nerds, they're the worst team in modern baseball history.

[globalvillage]

27. I'll give you $20

and your pick from my Kerry campaign button collection.

Doesn't seem worth a possible death threat, but the offer's on the table.

[demdiva]

28. LOL ....I'll settle for a rec

Although that JK button is tempting .....

[globalvillage]

33. I have quite a collection.

The only one that I wouldn't part with is the one DD made and that I wore when I met JK.
LOL. I still can't believe I was wearing an "I *heart* John Kerry" button. I blame it on the Guiness.

[demdiva]

34. you're too cute!

[JohnKleeb]

35. Since you brought up the Burgh in another thread

You need to make if you can a Steelers Fans for Kerry button.
Since after all, Art Rooney II, Mel Blount, Franco Harris, and even Swanny have given to him, and Teresa I thikn is a fan too since she was married to John Heinz.

[globalvillage]

36. Great idea.

I think I'll ask DD to do it, though. She's much better at it than I.

[JohnKleeb]

37. If it's done, have it be in the Black and Gold

and include the logo somehow. The logo is more than just about the football team, it's my mom's family's background. Another neat thing I found out is Art Rooney grew up in the same part of Pittsburgh that my dad's mom did and he was my Uncle Bill's age around so who knows they mave known each other.

[globalvillage]

38. I never met Art.

But I have met Dan. Did they live on the North Side? I'm not sure where the Rooneys lived in the early years, but they had a great house near the stadium. A friend of mine did some work there, and the old man gave him a cigar and an autographed pic.

[JohnKleeb]

39. The part near Three Rivers

Actulaly I am wrong, his bio says he was form Coultersville but I could have sworen the Steelers history DVD said that he grew up near what became Three Rivers. How is Dan? I always get a positive impression of him whenever I see him and hear him quoted in the papers. He just seems like a classy guy and his father too. I like that the team has stayed famly owned for all this time. You can't say that about a lot of teams.

[globalvillage]

40. Wisteria and I met him

At the American Ireland Fund dinner on St Pat's day. Didn't get to talk much, but he seems like a great guy. It is nice that the Steelers have been a family for all these years.

edit, the Steelers get their rings tomorrow. Big deal here. They were on the front page of the paper with the chimp today, which grossed me out, but they're excited about the rings. Lots of interviews on local news, about the rings, not about the WH visit.

[JohnKleeb]

41. Take it you're of Irish decent too?

I am only a quarter and don't look it at all but it's probably the part of my heritage I have the most pride with. I wish the Orioles were owned by someone like Rooney. I don't care if Angelos is a Democrat, he's a terrible owner and he's backing that dick, Bob Ehrlich's reelection because he has some stupid axe to grind with Marty O'Malley, not sure what he thinks about Doug Duncan though. God I am a geek lol, I am a Virginia and this is Maryland politics.

[globalvillage]

42. Well, I claim to be adopted.

We've been to Ireland twice, and it's our favorite place on earth outside of Pittsburgh.
But sadly, we're not even a wee bit.
Slovak, mostly.

[JohnKleeb]

43. Well I'll be damned

My grandmother's Slovak. Nothing wrong with being Slovak. One of my big heroes outside of US politics was Slovak. Alexander Dubcek. I read some his autobiography the past year. The Soviets invaded Czechoslovakia because he wanted to put a human face on Communism. I don't like the ideas of Communism but this guy was sincerely one of the good guys.

[demdiva]

29. OK ...Tim Russert on at 10pm

I'm recording the whole show so I can make sure I don't misquote them

[JohnKleeb]

30. Good

Hopefully you bring his ego down a few points.

[demdiva]

31. I'll post it here for some advice too

I think you all know more about Kos then I do

[JohnKleeb]

32. All I know is that he's 0-16 in elections and primaries both,

that he criticized Armstrong Williams for taking money from the Bush admin to promote No Child Left Behind but he did the same thing with the Dean campaign.

[beachmom]

47. C-SPAN is going to carry it live

I admit, I want to watch just so I can see what Armando looks like, plus some of the others. Warner is also throwing a lavish party for the bloggers; a personal worth of $200 million CAN come in handy. Hmmm . . . should Kerry have made an appearance at this thing? Well, I suppose you can't be at 10 things at once (about that cloning technology . . . )

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/7/12335/21157

[TayTay]

48. Ahm, Sen. Kerry is speaking at the Take Back America Conf

next week in DC. Karen DC, KG, me and some other folks from around these parts will be in attendance. We hope to be able to secure some live-blogging on some of the keynote speeches. You can see the lineup here: http://home.ourfuture.org/tba06/agenda.html

One interesting note: Sen. Hillary Clinton will speak on Tuesday at 8:15 AM. Sen. Kerry will speak at 9:15 am. It will be interesting to see both of these accomplished people speak so close together. (Yeah, I got my little electronic tape recorder on me. I plan on going into geeky 'compare and contrast' heaven with that setup.)

(Ahm, I have to give a shout-out to my brother. He is letting me stay with him in DC. Without that help, me no go, too expensive. Oh, the wonders of $49 each way airfare ain't bad either.)

C-Span covered this conference, which is also sponsored by Air America, last year. Maybe they will cover some of it. I wish Air America would sponsor the wireless connection like they are doing for YearlyKos because I hear it is not-so-good at the hosting hotel. Ah, I'll find a way to post stuff anyway. (Ahm, starbucks?)

It really does sound like there is fun to be had. (Then again, I like Fisheries hearings.)