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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:21 PM
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Holy Crap - found this nugget on Yahoo News: IS GWB WORST PREZ EVER?
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 08:23 PM by WildEyedLiberal
IS GEORGE BUSH THE WORST PRESIDENT -- EVER?

By Richard Reeves Fri Dec 2, 8:13 PM ET

PARIS -- President John F. Kennedy was considered a historian because of his book "Profiles in Courage," so he received periodic requests to rate the presidents, those lists that usually begin "1. Lincoln, 2. Washington ..."

But after he actually became president himself, he stopped filling them out.

"No one knows what it's like in this office," he said after being in the job. "Even with poor James Buchanan, you can't understand what he did and why without sitting in his place, looking at the papers that passed on his desk, knowing the people he talked with."

*SNIP*

"He (Buchanan) was the guy who in 1861 passed on the mess to the first Republican president, Abraham Lincoln. Buchanan set the standard, a tough record to beat. But there are serious people who believe that George W. Bush will prove to do that, be worse than Buchanan. I have talked with three significant historians in the past few months who would not say it in public, but who are saying privately that Bush will be remembered as the worst of the presidents."


Is George W. Bush the Worst President Ever?
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:25 PM
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1. He is
Seriously. I don't think he's done anything positive. No Call List, big fucking deal!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:28 PM
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2. Excellent find!
From the article:

"He has taken the country into an unwinnable war and alienated friend and foe alike in the process;


He is bankrupting the country with a combination of aggressive military spending and reduced taxation of the rich;


He has deliberately and dangerously attacked separation of church and state;


He has repeatedly "misled," to use a kind word, the American people on affairs domestic and foreign;


He has proved to be incompetent in affairs domestic (New Orleans) and foreign ( Iraq and the battle against al-Qaida);


He has sacrificed American employment (including the toleration of pension and benefit elimination) to increase overall productivity;


He is ignorantly hostile to science and technological progress;


He has tolerated or ignored one of the republic's oldest problems, corporate cheating in supplying the military in wartime."




Four score and a decade from now, history will show Bush as the worst president ever. No need to rewrite the above list.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:02 PM
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4. Also, the cronyism!
It's one thing for a president to be an incompetent leader, but then he adds to it by surrounding himself with incompetents! From Rice to Rummy to Bolton to Cheney---nobody is fit to cover for anyone else's mistakes. And they seem to have so few ideas among them that they need to lift them, at times, from Dems like Kerry.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 08:54 PM
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3. I do compare Bush to the likes of Buchanan and Grant .
Buchanan was terrible he never seemed to want to work to hard, he liked to party. And Grant, well he was in over his head and honored loyalty over competence. Some of those he trusted most were in fact very slimmy and place him in the middle of a corruption scandel. Grant was also know to be a heavy drinker and would sometimes go on binges.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 10:06 PM
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5. Bush sounds so like Grant - though he supposedly doesn't drink anymore
and Grant served in war without going AWOL.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:14 PM
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6. Grant would stay sober for long periods of time then drop ffrom site
for a day or two.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:48 PM
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8. well Bush goes to Crawford
only to emerge with bruises from falling off his bike.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 11:35 PM
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7. and the thing is that he is President during a time when he could
have been considered one of the greatest. there were many times when he had the chance to do this, something most Presidents don't get. the first was truly being a uniter after Clinton left office and helping to put behind us all the crap that went on with the fighting (mostly the fault of republicans).

the 2nd of course was 9/11. despite the fact that he has some blame for ignoring the warnings and not doing anything. he still had a chance to bring the world together. in fact the world was already uniting but he ruined it all.

the other time was with Iraq. if he had allowed the inspections to continue it would have been declared a great victory in itself. he was able to get inspections in with the backing of the world. it would have been a first step in controlling these things in other nations like Iran and North korea.

but it's because Bush is not just incompetent but a horrible person that he missed all of these chances. it's not a matter of wanting to do the right thing but just being bad at it. it's that he just doesn't care. he doesn't feel for others. a lot of this can be seen in Barbara Bush's comments about not wanting to waste her beautiful mind on these things and how those hurricane victims didn't have much to begin with so they should be happy with what they got.

his comments about hitting the trifecta after 9/11 so he can have an excuse for the bad economy are another thing. and joking about wmds under his desk.

never once does he care for the victims of HIS "mistakes".
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