Armando doesn't like boiled bunnies

[LittleClarkie]

"That's funny as shit.

Yeah kos ripped Kerry to shreds during the election campaign right?

Course AFTER Kerry lost, kos was really looking to sidle up to him.

What's funny is you don't even get it. kos didn; make the story up.

Somebody told it to him. You mad at the Senate sources who told him? No, it is better to live in denial and yell abou kos.

You are really pathetic. "

[WildEyedLiberal]

1. I hope you replied

"Who told him, Armando? His buddy Doug at the Dupont Circle Blockbuster Video?"

How pathetic is Kos that he can't even do his own dirty work. Actually, how pathetic is Armando for being some blogger's bitch?

[LittleClarkie]

2. No, I just said "Down Smithers, down!"

and posted this picture.



Btw, there is quite the war going on in this thread. I clicked on the OP's profile, went to his website, found his email, and thanked him for saying what he said. Because he's getting attacked for it right now.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/12/1/04819/9355#103

Kos may be bad, but Armando is worse. I called him Kos' rottweiller.

My apologies to the rottweillers.

[WildEyedLiberal]

3. Armando is either Kos's pet bitch, which is pathetic

Or, as I suspect, he IS Kos.

[LittleClarkie]

4. Ooh, a sockpuppet. That's why I called him Smithers

which would make Kos Mr. Burns.

Poor Smithers. Will Mr. Burns ever notice the poor lad and return his love?

[WildEyedLiberal]

5. BTW great pic!

[ProSense]

14. Great job!

What a bunch of loonies. Don't they realize there is a difference between being totally supportive of someone and obsession. I guess not because they don't know the difference between constructive criticism and the kind of mean-spirited, tongue wagging, d*** jerking, self-involved obsessive behavior they engage in.

Kerry is hurting himself? Give me a effing break.

[jenndar]

6. I think it's cute how Armando keeps

talking about "Kerry fixations" and "carrying a torch for Kerry" (Armando, if you're reading this, "Kerrying a torch" is ever so much more clever).

I think somebody's jealous.

[LittleClarkie]

7. Why is there never any time for MEEEEE! Sob!

I'm just amazed at how he can take ordinary discourse and make it hit the gutter in 2.5 seconds.

Thank GOD for Skinner and the mods here. They're nice! They're fair (mostly)! They're level-headed!! They're neutral for the most part!

I LOVE DU!

As bad as it can get here, DailyKos can get ten times worse.

[jenndar]

9. I agree.

And I have to give a shout-out to the intelligent, C-SPAN watching, more-often-than-not-really-well-intended Democrats who post here. Sometimes the debates over here drive me nuts, but they are debates, and that's something. So, yeah, I love DU, too!

[Dr Ron]

21. True in comparison with mods

While we don't like a lot of what is said here, we can't blame the mods for the views held by members. At least their actions are directed towards discouraging the worst. This is in contrast to Kos where Kos and Armando are the ones fueling the lunacy.

[WildEyedLiberal]

8. BTW how pathetic

It's like he expects you to praise Kos for not being overtly hostile during the presidential campaign. Utterly pathetic.

[saracat]

10. What makes any of them beleive Reid would have to go to Kos to reprimand

Kerry, if that were the case? Unbeleivable. The ego that would believe he was sooo important. Like Reid has no influence outside of this stupid blog! And as if Reid would be that childish.(And I am NOT a Reid fan , as y'all know. The Bankruptsy Bill , along with anti-choice did it for me. I don't give a crap what Reid thinks about anything anymore. He will NEVER have my respect but he is still a Dem, and will get my public support as Minority Leader.

[Mass]

11. In another diary defending Kerry, Armando says his source is Reid himself

These guys have such an ego that they would be dividing the party just to defend it.

[TayTay]

12. Armando expects us to believe that Reid

the minority head of the Senate, would put this information out to undercut another Senator, just for spite? Armando expects us to believe that Harry Reid is that dumb? This is another Crispin Miller thing where unverifiable things are said just to forward the agenda of fringies. I don't believe it. I don't believe that a smart pol like Reid would do this or, more to the point, allow Armando or anyone else to use his name publicly if he did. (I have some issues with Sen. Reid, as does Saracet, but I don't think he is stupid.)

Yeah, right! Harry Reid, Minority leader of the US Senate wants to pick a fight via a little blog site with one of his Senate Dems. (Particularly one who donated a cool million to the DSCC and will probably do more in '06.) Riiiiigggghhhtt!

[Mass]

13. I would not make that past some of Reid staffers though

Who knows what the rivalities between these guys are and what are the agendas of some of these people.

But I am sure Reid is not the source, whether he liked the idea that Kerry was spokeman or not.

[TayTay]

15. That just doesn't make any sense.

They would have to be very insecure people to do this. First of all, that was a successful appearance that garnered a lot of national media attention. Both Sen. KErry and Sen. Reid were well-spoken and having them appear as a team and having their military bona fides mentioned was a very good idea that came across well. (They really complimented each other, I thought. And I really like Jack Reid, he's a great Senator. He worked with Sen. Kerry on the LIHEAP stuff just recently.)

It is just difficult to believe that the need to undercut someone for petty political reasons or personality differences trumps the desire to make a credible alternative stand before the national media against Bush's War. If this is true, then maybe Harry Reid shouldn't be Minatory leader because he is undercutting his own message. (But I don't think so. I really don't. I bet it is the usual Kos crap where some remark was twisted to mean something that wasn't intended. I do have problems with Sen. Reid, but I never thought he was stupid. Far, far from it, actually.)

[Mass]

16. It works like a telephone game - Reid makes a mild remark in front

of a staffer. The staffer is called by kos who asks why Kerry was the Democratic rebuttal and answer something based on Reid's remark off the record. kos uses that to make a novel out of it.

I am sure that Reid (Harry) is not the source for that, and obviously Reed is not (kos's remarks do not make any sense given Reed's position on Iraq and how they should withdraw and anyway, it was obvious during the press conference that there was no tension).

And yes, Reed is a great senator. No doubt about that.

[beachmom]

18. Thanks, guys, from saving me from the negativity

I will not go to the Kos site, and will not watch TDS. They have absolutely nothing to say regarding Kerry, but tired old jokes and petty gossip. I realize that everyone has feelings in DC, just like anywhere else, and maybe some Senators ARE jealous of Kerry and his name, but in the end, these people are grown ups and can live with it. But dailykos, on the other hand, is just a screaming mob, declaring "off with his head" for allegedly disobeying Reid. I guess it's slightly interesting, if true, yet really has no relevance to the debate on Iraq. And we don't know if it's true or not -- it's just gossip. The true test is to see if it ends up anywhere in the MSM (that skirmish between Kerry and Reid back in January was published in Time, so I'm a little more pursuaded to believe it).

You know, constructive criticism is alright with me. For example, if someone came along and said, "This aspect of Kerry's plan will not work because . . . " And actually, I will say I'm not sure that his assertion that if the U.S. leaves, that al Qaeda will too, will work. I mean, they lived in London, they can, of course, lay low in Baghdad and continue to wreak havoc on the country for years to come. So I differ with him on that point. In fact, in a sense I am highly pessimistic on Iraq. I think the mistakes * made at the beginning were so devastating that there is now no way to fix it, as the civil war gains more traction.

[Dr Ron]

17. Kos was just misinformed then

Just like when he misquotes Kerry in his attacks. Sources are just providing Kos with the wrong quotes. Kos wouldn't alter them himself.

Or just like when Kos says Kerry supported the war. Some other source just told him this.

Poor, poor Kos. People just keep telling him untrue things about Kerry and he has no choice but to post them in his blog.

Maybe we shouldn'tcriticize Kos, but feel sorry for someone who keeps hearing such voices in his head.

[TayTay]

19. I just can't believe that someone hasn't called him on his lies yet

This is a disaster waiting to happen. Kos is going to blow some day and really get in trouble. Really, I sense that meglomaniacal strain in him and those types of people always eventually believe themselves bullet-proof (or press-proof) and make embarrassing mistakes.

I really think it's just a matter of time. He will say something so outrageous that it will make the MSM. Then people will disassociate from him and he will further implode in an effort to make enough publicity to hang on to his prominence. Just watch. (Not like it hasn't happened before.)

[Dr Ron]

20. Something outrageous

There's always his comment supporting the killing of paid Americans working in Iraq ("screw them") which led to the link to his blog being removed from the official Kerry blog.

He is often cited in right wing blogs as an example of left wing hatred, etc. Unforunately I can't argue with that as Kos's actions support their case.

[Dr Ron]

22. Misses the point

Let's say for the sake of discussion there is some truth to this, and Kerry was pushy to get to speak out against the war. Still, why bother posting on this unless you are waging a vendentta against Kerry? The important thing is that we have people speaking out against the war.

Imagine if Dean had stepped on the toes of a few Democrats in order to speak out against the war, Kos would be commending him for doing so.

[beachmom]

24. You're exactly right, Dr. Ron!

It's pretty minor stuff even if it was completely true, word for word. It seems that Kos's only goal is to divide Democrats. He's like the new pope, trying to purify the party until they meet his standards until the pews are empty. I will continue to reiterate that he and his ilk are more of a threat to the Democratic party than any right wing site. It's not his positions I have a problem with; it's his methods and smear tactics. Maybe he IS Rove's protege!

[TayTay]

26. You mean doing his job?

Isn't speaking out and stuff supposed to be a Senator's job. (I mean I don't think there are any shrinking violets in Congress.)

Horrors! Kos would be outraged. (Unless of course it was another outspoken Senator who also gave a press conference about an hour after Sen. Kerry. In that case it was perfectly all right.)

[beachmom]

23. One more point, which WOULD have been fun blog speculation

As I said in a different thread, Kerry talked about coming home in 1969 from Vietnam, but not demonstrating until 1971, "when a lot more names went on the Wall". Here's my speculation. What he's saying is, "I'm not going to support troops in Iraq indefinitely, especially if the casualties continue to mount, AND especially if there is no plan or strategy to succeed." He's still in the mode of "let's try to make this work" although he is moving the conversation toward an exit strategy while still trying to leave behind a stable Iraq. However, if things get worse and the administration still does nothing then I don't see him supporting the war. I just don't. Of course, he may cling to it if he runs for president, sort of a "Help is on the way part 2", but by 2007/2008 it may be too late, and the situation simply not salvageable. It won't be "cut and run"; it will be "cut our losses".

[ProSense]

25. What I see is

Kerry is going to keep at it until the job of getting the troops home is done.