Has anyone seen this article before? From Dec. 3 2003?

[LittleClarkie]

Pretty soon after the war started isn't it. For those who think he didn't say anything right away about how the war was going. Is 9 months soon enough?


http://www.cfr.org/publication.html?id=6576

Making America Secure Again: Setting the Right Course for Foreign Policy

An excerpt I found interesting.

"Today we have an administration that has turned its back on those values and principles. We have a president who has developed and exalted a strategy of war -- unilateral, preemptive and, in my view, profoundly threatening to America's place in the world and to the safety and prosperity of our own society.

Simply put, the Bush administration has pursued the most arrogant, inept, reckless and ideological foreign policy in modern history. In the wake of the September 11th terrorist attacks, the world rallied to the common cause of fighting terrorism. But President Bush has squandered that historic moment. The coalition is now in tatters, and the global war on terrorism has actually been set back. The president had the opportunity to unite the international community and hold Saddam Hussein accountable and, in doing so, to perhaps have avoided war altogether. But he refused to take the time or to expend the true effort of diplomacy. He went to war in a rush, and he rushed into war almost alone. Now the United Nations is divided, years of work is torn apart, and we are fighting an increasingly deadly guerrilla war in Iraq almost single-handedly. We have lost the goodwill of the world, and over-extended our troops, and endangered rather than enhanced our own security.

I believed a year ago and I believe now that we had to hold Saddam Hussein accountable and that we, the United States, needed to lead in that effort. But this administration did it in the worst possible way: without the United Nations, without our allies, without a legitimate plan to win the peace.

So we are left asking: How is it possible to liberate a country, depose a ruthless dictator who at least in the past had weapons of mass destruction, and convert a preordained success into a diplomatic fiasco? How is it possible to do what the Bush administration has done in Iraq: win a great military victory yet make America weaker? "

[JI7]

1. the war started in April

and Kerry has always spoken out about it including during the IWR vote.

for those who were on here during the primary campaign anytime someone posted about something Kerry said the same bunch would reply with "so why did he vote for the war, too late , go away etc".

and most of those complaining in those threads don't really care for the facts anyways. so no matter what you post it's not going to stop what they say.

[LittleClarkie]

2. Still, it's a nice article to add to my arsenal

So I think I will bookmark it for future reference.

Yeah, some folks won't have their minds changed. They've formed a conclusion and stopped thinking right there.