What is wrong with Reid? And what is wrong with our Dems? How

[saracat]

could we allow them to pass CAFTA? 10 Democrats New Mexico's Jeff Bingaman, Washington's Maria Cantwell, Delaware's Tom Carper, California's Dianne Feinstein, Arkansas' Blanche Lincoln, Washington's Patty Murray, Florida's Bill Nelson, Nebraska's Ben Nelson, Arkansas' Mark Pryor and Oregon's Ron Wyden as well as Vermont independent Jim Jeffords, who caucuses with the Democrats, voted for the president's proposal.

As a result, CAFTA was approved on a 55-45 vote.
This is almost as bad as the Bankruptcy Bill. Why are we not getting our people to hang together? Reid is certainly not a Leader in the mold of LBJ.LBJ never would have allowed these kind of defections . I am really angry. This kind of thing really causes me to lose hope, and before people point out that these are Senators in conservative area up for reelection Blah! Blah! Blah!, what good is it having Dems that don't vote with us? Even if we gain the majority and set the agenda, if they vote against our ideals, we haven't accomplished anything. I am really disheartened. It is only people like Kerry and Boxer and Kennedy who give me hope. I hope they and some others are enough.

[rox63]

1. Those Dems in conservative states should remember

that people in their states also want jobs. I think this vote will come back to bite them in the butt.

[TayTay]

2. House Dems are more sensitive to this issue

Because they all have to go before their voters next year. NAFTA (not that it's a sore spot or anything with me, you know, bygones be bygones and all) got 102 Dem votes in the House. CAFTA might get 10. A lot of those changes are in the South.

Don't lose hope. Things are changing in the Dem Party, but slowly. A lot of people thought that the pro-business New Democrats were going to be the wave of the future. Then came outsourcing and bad child labor laws and the lack of any teeth in the trade laws that would ensure a way of verifying fairness and obedience to labor law and presto-chango, you kind of have Old Democrats again. (Welcome back Dems. I neer believed in that New Democrat crap to begin with.)

[saracat]

3. Boy I hope you are right Tay Tay. I am just so steamed. It just doesn't

look good to the rank and file! And I didn't buy the New Democrat bullcrap either.

[JohnKleeb]

4. Cant believe it either

I have a feeling it wont pass in teh house though. Its not even really about liberal vs conservative to tell you the truth. BTW I was shocked to find that Jimmy Carter supports this crap.

[saracat]

5. Maybe it is tied up with his concern for the poverty stricken nations.Why

doesn't anyone notice we are becoming one ourselves!

[JohnKleeb]

6. I dont know