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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 06:42 PM
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 07:38 PM
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1. This is quite a buildup
over the Senator's statement that he would bring it up on Monday.
I'm not sure this was the intended consequence of his remark. It's been said already on this forum that some folks are building up for a letdown and I'm afraid that might be true, which will no doubt get him bashed unmercifully.
I hope I'm (we're) wrong. I'd love to see him kick some ass tomorrow.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 08:31 PM
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2. Sometimes circumstances offers opportunities
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 08:50 PM by TayTay
I really can't imagine a circumstance in which Senator Kerry wouldn't want to take a whack at The Idiot King. I really don't think this was planned to be a 'big event.' I think the Senator planned to go back to DC and 'bring this up' as an issue, possibly in the Senate Dem Caucus. But the word got around that he had something to say on it. Well, hell, there is going to be an audience tuning in, the Rethugs have baked cookies and set out traps, everybody has their dancing clothes on, so, what the f*ck, have at 'em. It's not like he doesn't want to. He was bashing the hell out of the Rethugs in his MA trip, just make up a hell of a speech, put all the amazing passion that went into the NYU speech last year and have at it.

This could be fun. Sometimes the world hands you opportunities. You'd be a fool not to take them. This could be great, as some sort-of unplanned events are. I intend to repress my native New England urge to assume the worst and just relax and see what the hell happens. This could be fun.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:39 PM
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3. Oh, you know he wants it...
but I think the Senator's likely to come off a bit more cautious than a lot of folks would like. Damn, I'd love to see him give another speech of a lifetime tomorrow. I keep thinking about the parallels with '71 and wonder how much of that is running through his mind as he prepares. "No pressure, sir, but could you possibly give a speech that we'll remember for oh, say, the next 35 years or so?"

I'm on pins and needles. How can you relax?
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 09:57 PM
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4. All the tension just went away
When I realized that this could be fun. I read that thread over at DKos and realized that the Rethugs have begun to set out traps and spin bullshit about impeachment talk and other mindlessly stupid things. Then it just hit me, I think John Kerry is emminently qualified to make a good/great speech about how * is the worst Pres ever and that his actions in as revealed in the Downey Street Minutes need explaining. I also think that Sen. Kerry has a 'moment,' hell he should have some fun and make the best of it.

Treat * as if he were a pinata. The knives are out for Kerry no matter what he does becuase the Rethugs hate him. Screw them, just give the speech you want to give. We got your back in MA, we love, love, love it when you go medieval on his butt, so just have some fun.

And that's it. I am now completely relaxed about this. It could be lots of fun. I'm just wondering who else is gonna want in on this. Any bets as to who has Kerry's back on the floor.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 10:27 PM
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5. Great question.
Edited on Sun Jun-05-05 10:28 PM by whometense
Teddy, Boxer, Durbin. Feingold? REID??? Byrd. Maybe. Lautenberg.

Hillary and Biden should, but will their personal ambitions allow them to back up John on this??
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-05-05 11:35 PM
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6. Fascinating question
Byrd, Lautenberg, Kennedy, Durbin and Boxer seem likely. Feingold has been mentioned as a liberal possibility for 2008, if he is interested might almost have to speak out. (He's too liberal to move to the center)

For Biden and Clinton, it might actually force them to decide now on which way they are betting on Iraq. I think both have been more supportive of Bush's actions than Kerry. If they stay silent and the proof that Bush lied, which seems pretty likely they might have trouble in the primaries. But, if they feel the MSM and the Republicans will debunk the memo, they might stay out or make very weak, "We should investigate this" statements. (Edwards may be glad he's not in Congress, so he doesn't have to decide.)

Kerry has less to loss because, contrary to the Republican (and some Kos) comments he said Bush misled us into war many, many times and sounded very angry each and every time. He also has a huge paper trail of speeches and editorials - all consistent with what he says his reasons were. So, he is not changing his position on the war but in some ways shifting the blame more firmly on the Bushies.

Reid as minority leader is in an interesting position - in that as a relatively conservative Democrat and the leader, if he speaks out, it's almost like the Democrats saying "It's your war".
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 03:01 AM
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7. It would be fun if Reid backed him. He likes to shoot off his mouth
occasionally. It would be a nice followup to the "liar" remark!
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-06-05 03:06 AM
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8. Great post, TayTay! n/t
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