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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 11:13 PM
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For politicasista, with love
Edited on Sat May-07-05 11:16 PM by TayTay
This is one of my favorite articles about Massachusetts and how she considers her Senators in DC: (And yes, we do have a high opinion of ourselves. Except when we don't. And only we know when that is. Which is maddening in the extreme. And we're too sensitive. Now get serious and get some work done. And remember to be chummy and nice. Oh, any feel free to fall on your sword for principle's sake. Which is a dumb idea, except when it isn't. Are we clear now?)

Published before Kerry's first Senate race. My favorite early article, bar none.

NOW IS THE TIME FOR. . .
BOSTON GLOBE, N, Sec. NEW ENGLAND MAGAZINE 06-03-1984
By BY CHARLES KENNEY AND ROBERT L. TURNER

NOT ALL OF THE 47 SENATORS MASSACHUSETTS HAS SENT to Washington have been involved in such passionate drama, of course. Nor have they all been as brilliant, as courageous, or as possessed by a single issue as (Charles) Sumner. But the tradition has held that, in general, Massachusetts' senators have mattered; they have made a difference. Looking back into the thicket of most major political issues, the chances are good that in the middle of it was a senator from Massachusetts.

The profile of Charles Sumner outlines the type of man the state has chosen. Two Massachusetts senators, for example - John Quincy Adams and John Fitzgerald Kennedy - went on to serve as President. Harrison Gray Otis, during his remarkable career, served not only as US senator but as representative in the US House, Speaker of the Massachusetts House, president of the state Senate, district attorney, United States attorney, judge, and mayor of Boston. Daniel Webster was one of the nation's greatest orators and statesmen. Henry Cabot Lodge, who served five terms in the Senate and rose to the position of majority leader, was a leading isolationist and played a role in keeping the United States out of the League of Nations. Lodge's grandson Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr., took the extraordinary step during World War II of resigning from the Senate for combat duty in the Army; he later returned to the Senate, held numerous ambassadorial positions, and ran for Vice President with Richard Nixon in 1960.

Edward W. Brooke, the first black elected to the Senate since Reconstruction , became an important moderate Republican voice opposing the Vietnam War and Harold Carswell's nomination to the Supreme Court. Paul E. Tsongas, even as a freshman senator, played an important role in the rescue of the Chrysler Corporation and was a signficant force in Central American and African issues. And needless to say, Edward M. Kennedy has played a pivotal role in national politics for a generation.

"They've been men of serious purpose," says Senate historian Richard Baker in describing Massachusetts' senators through the years. "They have been a distinguished lot."

As the campaign progresses, Massachusetts voters will take a hard look at the candidates - and will set lofty standards for them. Or that, at least, is the opinion of the best-qualified observer, Tsongas. The Senate is "a very different world," he says. Compared with the US House, where he spent four years, the Senate "has much greater visibility . . . much greater power, and intellectually it is more stimulating." It is the most prestigious political address in America, save the White House. It is the only body entrusted with the power to approve treaties, to try impeached Presidents, and to confirm or reject presidential appointments to the Cabinet, the Supreme Court, and other high offices.

"I've always felt a sense of specialness" about the Massachusetts seats, Tsongas says. "I don't think the senators from Massachusetts should be average, because the state's not average. . . . It is a very well-educated, very issue-oriented constituency." And, Tsongas says, this is widely understood in the Senate.

Several of the candidates for Tsongas' seat, both Democratic and Republican, have mentioned the special situation of serving with Kennedy, a formidable colleague, but Tsongas says the "Kennedy shadow," while large, has not been overpowering. "At first, I was the other senator from Massachusetts,' but I haven't heard that in a long time," he says. In particular, Tsongas warns that candidates cannot be concerned only with Massachusetts matters, leaving Kennedy to take care of the rest of the world. The seat, says Tsongas, "requires someone who cares about Chicopee and Fall River, but also about Managua and arms control. I think it would be fatal for any candidacy to imply a disinterest in national and international issues." Any such candidate, says Tsongas, "won't get elected, and won't be worth electing."

While this is the first Senate seat to be open in Massachusetts in 18 years, the race has other special characteristics as well: The fall election may well decide which party controls the US Senate. Republicans now hold a majority, with 55 seats, but Democrats say they have a reasonable chance of winning enough seats to regain control - including the committee chairmanships and all their attendant power. Massachusetts is one of few states in which a Democratic seat might go Republican.


I didn't know whether to applaud or gag or laugh out loud when I finished reading that. But it is true. Massachusetts wants to be special and send special and gifted people to the Senate. (Because we can. We have those sort in abundance around here, don't you know.) On the other hand, dear Lord, how can anyone live up to that without superpowers? Do you see, even at the very beginning, how hard it would be for any mere mortal to satisfy that constituency. Yet Kerry has been elected 4 times.

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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 11:16 PM
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1. Massachuetts is great. Come on now...
you have some of the greatest presidential candidates ever! (RIP Tsongas, RFK) The closest MD has ever gotten to president is Spiro Agnew, yuck! Or how about Alan Keyes, who was a Maryland talk show host.
:toast: to MA
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 11:24 PM
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2. Yeah, but that article is so funny
because it was sooooo deadly serious. (We are so great, yada, yada, yada.) Hahahahahahaha! I found that hilarious.

However, at the same time, I agreed with every word. Every friggin word. So, as insight, I found it helpful in figuring out why your garden-variety Masshole Dem Lib was so annoying. Well, it was ever thus. We are all pains in the arse.

Sometimes I wonder why the rest of you don't just saw us off into the ocean. (Because you love us and need us and we are very smart and entertaining and produce good national pols. But still.) It's like looking at someone who is too cool to admit that they aren't cynical. So they feign a cynicism they don't really mean. It's so odd. The true mark of a Masshole Dem is that they truly do believe in a better world and in a better America. (Just don't make fun of us for it, okay?)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 11:29 PM
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3. I LOVE MA! Come on it is so beautiful!
But also there is no place like home...

Baltimore Mayor Martin O'Malley, declared that Baltimore was "The Greatest City in America." It's all over the benches. That is an example of intense hometown pride. But I am sure Bostonians would laugh at that. We are dirty, falling apart little city compared to Boston.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 11:37 PM
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4. Bostonians never, ever express undying love for Boston
That would mean we cared too much and were too full of ourselves to live. We have a decent city, but it could be better. That about sums it up. Anything else is prideful speak. (And that cometh before a fall, as we all know.)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 11:44 PM
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5. So is Baltimore in even more trouble since
the mayor put us down as "The Greatest City In American?" Greatest Homocide rate in America is more like it, which is a sick joke, but it is just sad to say we or any other city is the greatest. But Baltimore can be wonderful, too.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 12:31 PM
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9. RFK wasn't from Massachusetts. He was from NY!
Granted , he was born in Massachusetts but still, He was the senator from NY! ! A little known fact is that the Kennedy's also spent half their growing up time in Bronxville NY. I only knew this as Jack and Bobby grew up with My Dad and his brother! But Hey , I love Mass. My grandmather was from Boston and It is my very favorite city on earth. I want to move there someday! Imagine , most want to move to Phoenix when they get older, I wan to move to Boston from Phoenix!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 01:23 PM
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10. But RFK went to Harvard.
And he was a Kennedy. We had first dibs on him.

I am, of course, joking. All of these people, if they do their jobs correctly, belong to the world. That is the point of sending good people out into the national political world. They get respect and standing and recognition from others as good people. Sigh! But we still want them to be ours. It is strange.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 07:55 PM
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12. Giggle. I agree but I did want to point out RFK wasn't a Massachusetts
Senator, for the record! I love Massachusetts and it richly deserves all the credit it gets. Sigh. I am soo jealous of those of you who live there. I am even jealous of snow! I always loved winter!
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:42 PM
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13. Sorry!
:(
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 12:03 AM
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6. Can I repeat this?
I liked this post, but the thread got locked, so forgive me (please??) for re-posting.

It is the New England way to be outwardly unenthusiastic about such things. So you'll hear people say disparaging things about Kerry (and, I might add, Kennedy too). Here's a case in point. Charlie Pierce is a wonderful MA-based writer who is a huge Kerry supporter. He wrote one of the three best pieces on Kerry during the campaign, and my personal favorite. It was published in Esquire, and is still available at the Kerry reference library, The Misunderestimation of John Kerry: Beware of this man. He's won every race that he was supposed to lose. Highly recommended. Here's a bit:

John Lewis looks down from the stage at John Kerry, who's shaking every hand and smiling a craggy smile that's not in any way easy or glib, but no less genuine for that.

"Look at him," Lewis says. "He's doing fine, isn't he? I mean, he's getting better, and we're working on him. We're working on him."

Lewis then gives me a grin, and it's the same damn grin that Chris Greeley gave me in that Falmouth saloon twenty years ago. Go on, this grin says, underestimate him. Lose yourself in the surface bull"expletive deleted"—the moneyed wife, the plummy accent, the windsurfing. Go ahead, it says, throw yourself into the national cartoon in which it's a story every time the guy receives communion because he's getting heat from a bunch of Roman Catholic bishops who ought to be lighting candles every day for the next decade in thanksgiving that they weren't all hauled off in a RICO proceeding. Go ahead and do all that, the grin says, and there he'll be at the end of it—stubborn, willful John Kerry, with his Ent-like presence and his drifting periods of political walkabout, dipping into the crowd until he looks something like a pol.

Does he feel it coming back at him again? you wonder. Does he feel the heat as well as see the light? The magic is there, a gift, right there in his hand. Does he have it in him to close his fingers around it? And if he does, will he notice that he's made a fist?


That's a native talking. Notice the blend of affection, jabs, and dry humor? That's the true MA attitude towards its pols. Just because we're not drooling at their feet doesn't mean we don't love them.

Those other nitpicking assholes out there in DU claiming to represent the state? Not so much.

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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 12:19 AM
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7. I loved this!
I am so glad you reposted. My original post in hre was in response to this, more than anything else.

I just loved the MA Senate piece in the Globe. It was just so perfectly representative of what we want. (And some can effedtively argue, have.)
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 12:30 AM
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8. Absolutely.
I thought you were responding to that post, but I wasn't sure.

The Globe piece was great. It's pretty difficult to verbalize the complicated relationships people here have with their politicians.

Another aspect is how very political MA is. I think probably there are other places in the US where politics is less communal bloodsport than it is here.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 06:19 PM
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11. Thanks Tay Tay!
Edited on Sun May-08-05 06:19 PM by politicasista
Thanks for cheering me up and the article. It's people like yourself, whome, and rox who rightfully send people like Kerry to DC every four years to do a real man's job unlike the criminal in chief that occupies the WH.

Hope you are feeling better and Happy Mother's Day!

:hug: :hi:
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