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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 04:08 PM
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Tay Tay, whome, rox
Why do all the MA peeps here dislike Kerry? I posted a thread over in the state area cause I was curious. Hope you don't take my thread about trading Kerry for the Cat Killer Frist seriously. I was being sarcastic.

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 04:14 PM
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1. they don't "all" dislike Kerry
many of them do like him. you are letting the ones with the negative things get to you. looking at all the comments it's the same few who attack him. and that's how it's always been.

but overall it's pretty fair.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:07 PM
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2. ALL the MA peeps???
Sometimes, politicasista, I just don't get where you're coming from. You may as well have posted "bash Kerry here". IMO.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:11 PM
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3. I didn't know what to say
Edited on Sat May-07-05 06:16 PM by politicasista
I just went to the MA fourm and was just curious as to why Kerry was disliked in his own state. Sorry everyone. Is there a way the mods can delete this?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:18 PM
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7. i think she is referring to the way you dwell on the negative
Edited on Sat May-07-05 06:19 PM by JI7
you take a few people who say negative things about Kerry and then ask "why does everyone hate Kerry". even though there are people coming into this forum many times who like Kerry and he is getting great turnout at his events.

but when you make posts like that one it just attracts the same few Kerry haters to come on and bash. there will always be people who don't like Kerry. Kerry never had much support on DU. but why dwell on it ?

this isn't an attack on you but rather helping to explain how things are viewed and taken.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:28 PM
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8. The people who like to whine
Edited on Sat May-07-05 06:29 PM by whometense
like to bash. It's their MO. They're jerks, but they aren't representative. Most people here are extremely proud of Kerry.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:30 PM
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9. You are right
I ignored them till today, but sometimes they make me mad.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:14 PM
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4. I've noticed that it's
Edited on Sat May-07-05 06:16 PM by whometense
lefty freeperville, plus. Sometimes it's the stupidest who speak the loudest.

You always see these idiots saying something like, "Well, I'm from Massachusetts and I think Kerry is a flip-flopping right-winger who hates gays. No one in Massachusetts likes him."

I find that interesting, seeing as Kerry was elected Lt. Governor and Senator - FOUR TIMES. Too bad no one likes him. :sarcasm:

It is the New England way to be outwardly unenthusiastic about such things. So you'll hear people say disparaging things about Kerry (and, I might add, Kennedy too). Here's a case in point. Charlie Pierce is a wonderful MA-based writer who is a huge Kerry supporter. He wrote one of the three best pieces on Kerry during the campaign, and my personal favorite. It was published in Esquire, and is still available at the Kerry reference library, The Misunderestimation of John Kerry: Beware of this man. He's won every race that he was supposed to lose. Highly recommended. Here's a bit:

John Lewis looks down from the stage at John Kerry, who's shaking every hand and smiling a craggy smile that's not in any way easy or glib, but no less genuine for that.

"Look at him," Lewis says. "He's doing fine, isn't he? I mean, he's getting better, and we're working on him. We're working on him."

Lewis then gives me a grin, and it's the same damn grin that Chris Greeley gave me in that Falmouth saloon twenty years ago. Go on, this grin says, underestimate him. Lose yourself in the surface bull"expletive deleted"—the moneyed wife, the plummy accent, the windsurfing. Go ahead, it says, throw yourself into the national cartoon in which it's a story every time the guy receives communion because he's getting heat from a bunch of Roman Catholic bishops who ought to be lighting candles every day for the next decade in thanksgiving that they weren't all hauled off in a RICO proceeding. Go ahead and do all that, the grin says, and there he'll be at the end of it—stubborn, willful John Kerry, with his Ent-like presence and his drifting periods of political walkabout, dipping into the crowd until he looks something like a pol.

Does he feel it coming back at him again? you wonder. Does he feel the heat as well as see the light? The magic is there, a gift, right there in his hand. Does he have it in him to close his fingers around it? And if he does, will he notice that he's made a fist?


That's a native talking. Notice the blend of affection, jabs, and dry humor? That's the true MA attitude towards its pols. Just because we're not drooling at their feet doesn't mean we don't love them.

Those assholes out there claiming to represent the state? Not so much.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:15 PM
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5. I am totally sorry for posting this
I don't want to offend anyone. I am just tired of good people whether it's Kerry, Edwards, or Clark being slammed for either speaking up or just doing the right thing.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:17 PM
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6. I'm not offended.
I actually thought it was a reasonable question. If I heard some of this crap spouted about a pol from another state I'd want to know what the truth was, too.

No offense taken.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:36 PM
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10. OT
Edited on Sat May-07-05 06:38 PM by fedupinBushcountry
Could you answer this for me ? Why in the world are certain posters allowed to post ridiculous flame bait threads like this.

Original message Poll question: I don't want John Kerry to be the 2008 pres. nominee. Who's with me?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1768929

This is getting ridiculous, and especially in a main forum, for all the world to read. What would happen to that thread if his candidate was in the question, would it be locked?

I alerted, but nothing, even a moderator has posted in it. I don't know what to think of DU anymore, and to me it is not helping Dems but hurting Dems.

:banghead:
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:37 PM
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11. it's locked now
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:41 PM
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12. Thanks
Must have happened when I was posting. At least some in there, had my same feelings.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 06:57 PM
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13. Locking at OP's request
n/t
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