Didn't the RW machine try to say that Kerry had an affair?

[elshiva]

How was this connected to Teresa's "Shove It" comment?

Kerry is one person I can never imagine having an affair. Other people who I can't ever imagine having affairs: Jimmy Carter and Howard Dean. Kennedys and Clinton do not surprise me, although I am not happy with it, of course, but aren't they finished anyway?

In a way it matters and in a way it doesn't. The personal is political, but just cos someone is faithful to their spouse does not mean they are a good politician.


Just on my mind cos my grandma grumbles about Kennedy and Clinton's affairs sometimes...

Good night all!

[GRLMGC]

1. How is it connected?

Well, I forgot what newspaper it was (it's based in Pittsburgh and owned by Richard Mellon Scaife), has been after her forever. They tried to perpetuate the idea of an affair. Anyway, that asshat got in her face and she got sick of it. I'm sure many other people would have reacted teh same way.

[wisteria]

12. I'll second that.

The paper is the Tribune Review and it is the most biased, misleading smug newspaper available in the area I live in. Scaife uses it as his soap box taking pleasure in spewing his vile nasty biased opinions and untruths. It is not beyond this paper to twist the truth so it favors their own view points. They still attack Teresa whenever then can. I think they resent her for changing parties and not supporting Santorium. (I knew there was a reason I really like her).

[JI7]

2. yeah, much of it goes back from stories when he was single

i think they tried to use those things to claim he was cheating on Teresa which makes no sense as they were from before he met and married Teresa and he WAS a single guy then.

i'm not sure about the connection to Teresa's shove it comment though. the shove it comment was because of all the horrible things Scaife had said about Teresa , many of which had nothing to do with any rumors of affairs.

[GRLMGC]

3. I read somewhere

that they printed some random rumors of Kerry spending time w/ some chick on like Christmas or something like that. It was just a blurb with no evidence.

[JI7]

5. i remember that

the person they said had an affair with him wrote something about it. she did deny it though.

i was on DU then and it was during the primary elections when Kerry had won some states and seemed to be in the lead. some supporters of other candidates got excited and were hoping the affair stuff was true. the entire board was filled with the affair rumors. and some talked about it as if it was known to be true .

[LittleClarkie]

4. Drudge heard about a story with an intern

The intern was at a friend's house, she called Kerry's office, he called her right back, the friend commented "Gee, he must like you." That got blown into an affair.

There was an article somewhere of the woman tracing where the story came from. She got an apology out of Drudge, but I think she went after one from the Washington Post, and they weren't as gracious as Drudge in acknowledging their mistake. I'll give Drudge that one kudo. Just the one mind you. Otherwise, he's an asshat.

I'll see if I can find that article.

[JI7]

6. Drudge doesn't deserve anything

Drudge intentionally makes up shit hoping he doesn't get caught. it wasn't a case where he truly thought it was true.

he made up the crap about Sydney Blumenthal beating his wife also. i don't care if he apologized later on. the fact is he makes up shit and hopes he doesn't get caught.

[LittleClarkie]

7. And people like Rush and other Conservative pundits use him

it makes me cringe.

I couldn't believe it when I heard he had a radio show. Gak!

[JI7]

8. not just Rush and other Conservatives but CNN does also

and so do many on DU . DU was filled with this affair stuff and talked about it as if it was true. and it was all based on Drudge.

and it happens other times also. Drudge posts something and people get nervious or scared and start whining about what we are going to do.

[LittleClarkie]

11. Like when they believed in the fake tan

Amazing how they will accept a faulty source if it's about someone they don't like.

[karynnj]

9. She also wrote a very long article for New York magazine

In which she totally denied having an affair. She did briefly date a single staffer and had met both Teresa and John. The article mainly was about how hard it was on her, her family, her fiancee and his Israeli family (who lived in Africa -I think Kenya). She basically couldn't leave her fiancee family's house for days because the press would have mobbed her.

Being the center of all of this was apparently completely awful for her. Kerry and his staff (including the guy she had once dated) were credited by her with handling the whole thing very well. She even said that her dad, who was pretty conservative, was convinced to vote for Kerry.

(On one of the DU boards, there was a thread that the original story on this was by Gannon that was then highlighted by Drudge, but I've read this nowhere else, so it may be absolutely not trus.)

[europegirl4jfk]

10. What's about this girl who wrote a novel about him?

That was before he met Teresa but she still has her website up and sells her book on the Internet: http://hedgefundmistress.com/JohnKerryScrapbook.html . Did any of you read it, BTW?

[LittleClarkie]

13. Oh she has some wonderful pictures

They're so casual. Piddy pat! Piddy Pat!!

[JI7]

14. she seems kind of weird

but i liked some of the pics she put up of him. i haven't read her books and don't plan to. if he was elected president she would have sold more though. if he is in the future she would also. but i don't think i will ever read it.

i have to admit that she makes him sound like a pretty good guy. he would cook for her and he enjoyed talking about many different things with her.

[LittleClarkie]

15. She's alittle obsessive

I didn't think she was weird until:

1. She said "John wrote my name with his hand on this envelope" kind of like "I'll never wash that hand again" after you shake hands with a movie star.

2. Strange looking book.

[GRLMGC]

16. Dude!

She's all fatal attraction

[TayTay]

17. It was also not his MO when he was legitimately single

and doing what single-people occacionallly do, date other single-people. The Senator from Massachusetts did not really have much of a single-life because it is rather difficult to conduct a personal life in public. (Particularly when part of that public belongs to the likes of the Boston Herald and snarky, dismissive, RW talk radio, which we DO have in MA.)

Kerry will have been married ten years this May. That's a nice anniversary. I think it is time to put stuff before that to rest. (And there wasn't much there before that. That doesn't stop the press from exagerating things, though.)

[JI7]

18. since Massachusettes does lean more Democratic

i wonder if that's why they focus on Kerry's personal life so much. the right wing media could attack him on policy issues but in a mostly Democratic state it probably wouldn't hurt him too much.

so they just go after personal things and gossip type crap .

but do you know if this is usual in Massachusettes ? since it doesn't seem like they report on anyone else in such personal , gossipy manner as they do with Kerry.

[TayTay]

20. I believe it has changed.

There was a time when MA had two single Senators down there in DC. We no longer do. Both Senators are happily entered into wedded bliss. Enough said. The Boston Herald has moved on to happily insulting Sen. Kerry for his relationship with his wife and making snide remarks about her money. Ah, progress! The Boston Globe is intent on ignoring Sen. Kerry unless they absolutely cannot do otherwise, in which case they are snippy, snide and vaguely insulting. Ah Progress!

There is also the 'Ugo' factor to consider. Some reporters, even some gossip reporters are not the finest looking specimens of the human species. (And they are nasty people as well.) They are 'Ugo's.' And they tend to write a lot of snarky and trite things about people who are not 'Ugo's' and may have had easy social exchanges with other people. It is also possible that some of this is pure jealousy. 'Yeah, if I was not an Ugo, was highly polished and wicked smaht and easy on the eyes, I would have gotten some prime, ah, dates as well. Frickin bastard.' This is revolting, but human. And, need I say, a purely subjective personal opinion on my part.

[karynnj]

19. Ten years, you're right a nice anniversary!

So many of his friends mentioned in interviews how good Teresa had been for him and how much happier he was married, rather than single. When asked about Teresa he always sounded very proud that she was with him. It seemed he almost couldn't avoid smiling when talking about her.

It had to mean something that the Republican gossip machine didn't come up with any former girlfriend willing to thrash him. That his first wife's twin remained Kerry's good friend throughout the time they were separated then divorced, speaks well for both Kerry and his first wife. They also did a great job in raising their daughters, who seem to love and respect both of them.

I wish that these types of things didn't become political issues, but in Kerry's case, the most obvious conclusion is that it seems that the people who have been close to him personally seem to all think the world of him and he seems to treat people well. Treating others respectfully is something that does matter.

[ginnyinWI]

21. does anyone know the date of their anniversary? n/t

[TayTay]

22. Article on it

Seek, Ginny, and ye shall find:

KERRY, HEINZ WED IN NANTUCKET CEREMONY
Boston Globe, THIRD, Sec. METRO, p 15 05-27-1995
By Globe Staff Ellen O'Brien

NANTUCKET

With their grown children serving as witnesses, Sen. John F. Kerry and Teresa Heinz were married last night in an outdoor civil ceremony at the Heinz island home.

The air was damp, and an American flag outside the weathered-shingled estate was rippling in the harbor winds, but the ceremony and reception were marked by warm toasts from the 100 guests. The crowd comprised relatives and friends from both the bride and groom's political pasts.

Heinz was escorted down an aisle, beneath an ivory-colored canopy, by her three sons. She was met by Kerry and his two daughters on the summer porch that trims the Hulbert Avenue estate.

Minutes after the nuptials were completed, Kerry said: "It was very touching.

"We shared tears and laughter at the same time. It was wonderful."

The couple were wed by US District Judge Rick Stearns, and former candidate for lieutenant governor Bob Massie, an Episcopal priest, who offered the homily.

Both Kerry and Heinz dressed for a second wedding. She wore a tea-rose floor-length gown that wrapped her shoulders in a ruffle. The senator wore a black suit and necktie.

The Kerry and Heinz children read poetry, sang, and one played the mandolin.

The couple wrote their own vows, which Kerry said were devoted to the everyday challenges of marriage.

"They were about something human," said Kerry. "It was about the things you need to do in life, like hugs."

The guests sang along with Peter Yarrow, the guitarist in the Peter, Paul and Mary trio.

When raising her own glass for a speech, the bride welcomed her "new family" and said she "finally had some girls," referring to Kerry's daughters. Heinz, 56, is the widow of Sen. H. John Heinz 3d, a Pennsylvania Republican. She has three sons: H. John 4th, a 28-year-old artist who makes this island his year-round home; Andre, 26, and Christopher, 22. Kerry, 51, divorced from his first wife, Julia Thorne, in 1988 and has two daughters: Vanessa, 18, (due to graduate Phillips Academy in Andover next week) and Alexandra, 21.

Guests included Fred Smith, Federal Express chief executive; Wade Sanders, assistant secretary of the Navy, who served in Vietnam with Kerry; Ron Davenport, a longtime ally of the late Sen. Heinz; Tim Wirth, a former Colorado senator, and his wife, Wren; Ted Stebbins, whose family home is adjacent to the Heinz estate and who is godfather to the eldest Heinz son; Dick Friedman, Boston hotelier; Dan and Ellen Barbiero, who were among the guests who knew Kerry from his days at Yale; Harvard University's Thomas Vallely; Chanel chairman Arie Kopelman and his wife, Coco, were also on hand. Their daughter, Jill, a goddaughter to Heinz, sang during the ceremony.

A New England Conservatory quartet provided Mozart music for guests who mingled for about 90 minutes before heading to a dinner at the Chanticleer, at 8:30 p.m.

Asked how it felt to be married, Heinz, who admitted to some wedding-day jitters, replied "Finally? Finally, it feels wonderful."

[whometense]

23. Sweet.

Thanks for finding that. I've seen the pictures - it sounds lovely.

[karynnj]

26. Both the article and the picture are so sweet

They both look so young (and happy) in the picture

[ginnyinWI]

28. Aww....

:loveya:

perfection!

[ginnyinWI]

24. Thanks!

Lovely, one I hadn't read before. :)

[TayTay]

25. I liked it too

It seemed sweet and lovely. So the anniversary would be 5/26

[elshiva]

29. Yay! That's less than a month away!

[foreverdem]

27. They are so in love

It's so obvious how deeply these two love each other. I could never believe either of them would cheat on the other. Anyone who has seen them together wouldn't believe it either.

[politicasista]

30. They really are and they don't hide it

unlike Smirky and Pickles. Their kisses seem forced and fake. :rofl:

[foreverdem]

31. I wonder if...

Pickles wears those dark glasses so she doesn't have to see smirky's face? :puke: