a conspiracy theory that is at the very least interesting reading

[ginnyinWI]

Sorry that this isn't directly Kerry related, but there is a thread going on here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3482593&mesg_id=3482593&page=

The poster believes that Corporate America will soon take out the Bush administration. It's wild, I know, but he/she sees signs that they are not at all happy with the economic situation and will do things like unmuzzle the media that is now so protective of the Bushies and their crimes.

I'd love it to be true; it at least is fun to think about. I'm wondering what you all think.

[sandnsea]

1. Not Corporate America

I've always found that the Business Roundtable is a pretty good measure of where Corporate America is at. Here's there agenda:

http://www.businessroundtable.org/taskForces/index.aspx

Somebody may be wanting Bush to go. Not quite sure who though.

[TayTay]

2. That's crazy talk

It assumes that someone is actually in charge and has the power to rein in the Bushies. Not true. The corporate structure is not that smart or able to come together that well.

We shall see.

[sandnsea]

3. I have no idea

That link though, it's Bush's agenda. And BRT is pretty much corporate America. So I don't know why they'd want to reign him in, if they even could.

I'll tell you what scares me more than the thought of corporate America orchestrating anything, and that's Rove orchestrating it.

Delay is getting in the way of the plan to pack courts with corporate judges. Most of those judges are more pro-corporate than pro-religion. Delay is being sidelined. Just like that Bernie Kerik was sidelined. Didn't they put in a real neocon shit at Homeland Security? Kerik was a game, an illusion that Bush has honorability.

Now, play along here, just for fun. Cheney is a corporate machine, absolutely. But think about GW1 and what Cheney did with defense. Not exactly a strict neocon pattern. Seems Poppy didn't take up with these neocons to quite the extent Georgie is either.

What if what that guy thinks he's seeing is really a neocon plan to get somebody smoother in as Speaker, and an even bigger neocon than Cheney in as VP. Corporate heads do tend to dislike chaos, that's why they back dictators in 3rd world countries so often. Doing business is easiest in a friendly dictatorship. This "freedom on the march" may be going a little further than what the corporates wanted it to, but the neocon ideology is firmly in control. Except Cheney's really a corporate at heart, not a neocon. So Cheney has to go.

Wouldn't that be freaky?

I just play these little head games for fun. Don't even ask me to explain it, I can't.

[TayTay]

4. Well, the Naomi Klein article back a few months ago in Harpers

was scary as hell. She posited that the whole Iraq invasion was an excuse for the neocons to convert Iraq to a pure 'free-market' where there would be no pesky regulations on the businesses that could be attracted to the area. No pesky environmental problems, no unions to bother with, no concern at all about the pay disparity between rich and poor. Her article stated that this was part of the reason for the rapid growth of the insurgency. The fools in charge dismissed all the workers and made no provision for getting them new jobs or food or anything.

These guys may think they are finally implementing the perfect business environment, but they are incompetent ideologues who can't see when they are making errors. (They do have the sincere religious element on their side, they believe they are endowed by God to have power and cannot mess it up.) They are deluded and irrational.

Rove is good, but overrated. The biggest argument for him being brilliant actually relies on him being a rat bastard. He has no morals or ethics and cares about nothing but putting his people in power. If Dems did that, they could prosper too. But Dems still have ethics and won't fight this way. There are other ways to fight this bastard. I recommend taking a page out of his playbook and attacking them where they think they are strongest, at the religious standings. They have been misrepresenting a very strong part of the Judeo/Christian background and are ripe for a fall in this area.

[sandnsea]

6. That actually makes sense

Read this piece about Delay and the Marianas, and the guest worker program. Fits right in with that Iraq idea.

http://www.texasobserver.org/showArticle.asp?ArticleID=1743

I actually worry more when I see Karen Hughes making the rounds. Rove will sink to any level, but Karen Hughes knows how to wrap it up and make it smell nice. I forget what she's doing now, but I would bet they haven't listened to her on SS.

[ginnyinWI]

5. it does fit the pattern

The neocons seem to never be satisfied with half measures. They always want more (haha--just like Rocko did in Key Largo). They don't want most, they want ALL. So if anybody disappoints, they've got to go. But we know where all of this leads in the end. They'll fall: it's just a matter of how long it will take.

I do think Rove remains a very busy boy. He is, after all, "Bush's Brain". I believe that * relies on him for all of his political moves. And he relies on the neocons for his policies.

[sandnsea]

7. Power

Complete and total. I don't know what it'll take to bring them down. Really, after Iran/Contra and BCCI, these people shouldn't be anywhere near the WH. But there they are. It's unreal.