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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 07:59 AM
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Oh, so that's why he's on crutches
Portrait of a Progressive.
Roll Call 04-06-2005
By By Mary Ann Akers ROLL CALLSTAFF

Kerry Hobbled. All that snowboarding and windsurfing must have caught up to Sen. John Kerry (Mass.): The 2004 Democratic presidential candidate was seen walking around on crutches Tuesday.

Asked about the Senator's condition, Kerry's spokesman, David Wade, joked, "You should see the other guy."

But seriously, folks: Wade said that Kerry, a former marathon runner, had arthroscopic surgery on his knee during the recess. He described it as an "outpatient procedure" to repair some cartilage damage. Wade said the Senator is using crutches to keep weight off his knee for a couple of weeks.

Kerry is "paying a very small price for years of soccer, hockey and running," Wade said.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 08:02 AM
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1. wasn't there a similar thing with his arm early in the campaign ?
i remember reading how he would not be able to shake hands for some days because of it.

i guess it's normal for people who are very active like he is.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 08:07 AM
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2. Yeah, that one was a mild infection
that came from someone who dugs nails into his hand. (Talk about a firm handshake.) Hand swelled up, required some minor attention and then all was well.

Must be an occupational hazard. The crutches, well, he does like all those high impact sports. They catch up with ya after a while.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 09:37 AM
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4. That seems crazy. What the hell was under their fingernails? Weird.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 09:43 AM
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5. he wrenched his shoulder
I think that is what you are reminded of. Their vehicle stopped short once, and he wrenched his shoulder, and had some surgery to repair it early in 2004, so that he could go into the main campaign and be able to shake all those hands and do everything else without pain.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 09:35 AM
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3. On MSNBC, they just showed him viewing the Pope on his crutches.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 09:44 AM
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6. doh!
I have the news on a lot, but never seem to catch Kerry! I have yet to see him on crutches.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:42 AM
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16. The only place I've seen him
was on c-span2, when there's a senate vote.
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:00 AM
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8. I'm glad he got to go to Rome
Too bad Jimmy Carter couldn't have been with the group of Congressmen who went, since he was dissed by the presidential delegation. :eyes:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:34 AM
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12. I wonder if the funeral will be a problem - He can't kneel, can he?
Although with the crutches next to him, even the Republicans can't accuse him of being disrespectful.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:38 AM
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14. You know,
it wouldn't surprise me if they tried anyway. Look what I found on Salon this morning (written by Sidney Blumenthal).


Culture of strife
Bush is exploiting the American Catholic Church's polarization to consolidate his conservative social agenda.

April 7, 2005 | For the first time, an American president has lowered the American flag to half-staff for the death of a pope and, also for the first time, will attend a papal funeral. George W. Bush, a militant evangelical Protestant, deliberately inflects his political rhetoric with Catholic theological phrases, in particular the "culture of life," words he used to justify his unprecedented imposition into the case of Terri Schiavo, the brain-damaged woman whose feeding-tube removal was upheld 19 times by state and federal courts.

In the 2004 election Bush's campaign helped organize the attack on John Kerry's Roman Catholic authenticity by conservative bishops, who threatened to deny him communion. The White House coordinates both policy and personnel in line with right-wing Catholicism -- vetting not only issues like international population control, reproductive health and women's rights but also appointments. Only Catholics who meet the litmus tests receive jobs.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:23 AM
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15. Disgusting - but it sounds like over reaching
Hopefully there won't be cameras on the mourners, or if there are a certain squirmy President is unlikely to be able to deal with a 3 hour mass. Kerry will look fine in comparison. (Also, doesn't he know some Italian from when he went to school in Switzerland?)
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 04:16 PM
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20. It was said in an article on the campaign by the Globe
that the thought of not being allowed to take communion was personally devastating to Kerry.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 05:19 PM
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21. oh, that's so outrageous!
Have they no decency? The poor man--the prices he's had to pay! I don't mean the reporters, I mean the people trying to get the Catholic church to dis-allow him! :grr:

(I'm not even Catholic, but this really gets me steamed!)
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 07:12 PM
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22. It is filthy
Communion is the centerpiece of Catholic worship, and the act of denying it has HUGE implications, because the only reason a Catholic would not be allowed to take communion is if his soul is in a state of mortal sin -ie, hellbound. So obviously that's not a charge to make lightly - indeed, not one that anyone has any business making at all. Who are these sanctimonious repukes to decide who is and is not pure of heart?

FUCK THEM. I'm serious. I hope God is more forgiving of them than I am. :grr:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 08:38 PM
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27. Calm down, he goes to Church in Boston,
It's okay. I found this on a Catholic fundie site. They were pissed off that the Senator was welcomed into the community of believers.

The Paulist Center
On Saturday at the Vigil Mass, Mr. Kerry received Communion again from the Paulist center. Fr. Joe Ciccone (Paulist Center): "We're following the directive of our archdiocese," said Father Joe Ciccone, who gave Kerry the Eucharist. "They have said we should give him communion."

This reply by Fr. Ciccone does not ring very true. In another story today on the Paulist center.

Sen. John Kerry regularly receives Communion {at a Church that} attracts Catholics uncomfortable with some of the Vatican's orthodox teachings or who otherwise feel alienated from the Roman Catholic Church.

The Paulist Center's congregation includes gay couples, whose adopted children are baptized there, unlike in some other Boston parishes. In November, its leaders refused to read aloud during Mass from a letter opposing gay marriage, as requested by the Massachusetts bishops.

The congregation is not geographical, but ideological, drawing people from as far as away as New Hampshire, said Drew Deskur, the center's music director and a parishioner for 25 years.

"It's not St. Around-the-Corner," Deskur said. "It's an intentional community that draws people from all over Boston. It tries to make sure that everyone feels welcome and that everyone participates in the liturgy."

Ahm, this is liberal Massachusetts. You don't actually think it would be hard to find a Church that would give John Kerry or any other Catholic communion now do ya? Geez, whatever happened to that 'land of the infidels' reputation we used to cultivate nationally. Geez, it's Boston people. No problemo.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 08:41 PM
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28. I know he doesn't have a problem in Boston
It's still unconscionable that any Catholic from around the country would basically tell him he's going to hell by refusing him communion. That not a judgment for any priest or layman to make. I know he doesn't have problems in his own parish, obviously.

That doesn't mean that it wasn't unforgivable for some right-wing jackass to even suggest. It's the ultimate abuse of the sacraments and goes against every fiber of the Christian spirit. :mad:
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:49 PM
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29. right you are
And that's what I meant too. Not that he would have the problem, but the very suggestion must hurt. It must make you feel like a reject, defective in some way, to the Church as a whole. And it simply is not fair or right.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 02:56 PM
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30. Actually they aren't supposed to refuse anyone
who comes up for communion. I participate fully in communion even though I am not a Roman Catholic. I went to a Roman Catholic college and was taught that the priest isn't supposed to stop you or question you about being a Catholic. It's much more stupid in Kerry's case that they should make an issue out of this non-issue.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 07:25 PM
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23. As a former Catholic,
Edited on Thu Apr-07-05 07:26 PM by karynnj
I wonder if they remember Jesus said to let he who was without sin cast the first stone. That direction should eliminate at least part of the Boston archdiocese. What's infuriating is that the threat was mainly political and it carries weight only against people who are sincerely and genuinely committed to the church. I can't figure out which one, but it has to be a sin to have used this kind of threat for political purposes because of the pain it can cause.

I'm sure there are many people who deserve that kind of rejection and censure more than Kerry. I also thought his and Kennedy's tributes to the Pope were so much more heart felt and real than all the Republican (mostly Protestant ones).
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 07:30 PM
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24. What tributes? What did I miss?
Senate speech? Press release? Television snippet?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 07:38 PM
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25. Tributes
I was meaning the statements that each put out - they're on their web sites. Hope I didn't misuse the word. I liked Kerry's best because it sounded just like him. Sorry to confuse
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 08:03 PM
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26. No problem,
I just went over there. You're right, it's a nice tribute.

I hate the red, though. The font is too thin and not as readable as well.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 09:55 AM
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7. I like David Wade
And what a cool job he has!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:23 AM
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9. do you think this is worth posting in GD?
For a little human interest PR for Kerry? People need to connect with a person, not a policy. :)
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:27 AM
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10. I do. I think a lot of people would be interested.
Keeping the positive/human interest info out there where everyone can see it does help IMO.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:28 AM
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11. Relieved to hear that he's ok
and that it was planned surgery, rather than an accident.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 10:35 AM
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13. Thanks for clearing that up.
It didn't look serious, but it's good to know what's up with our guy.

So that's why he's had time to crank out all those emails. ;-)
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 11:52 AM
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17. Wasn't there something wrong with his throat also?
I read somewhere (could have been drudge)that he had to have polyps removed from his vocal cord before the campaingn. Thanks for the article Tay Tay. I saw him a couple days ago on crutches and wondered the same thing.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 12:37 PM
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18. Jayzus, he's falling apart out there
Voice, arm, hand, knees. Good thing he's already got insurance, he'd be a hard guy to get medical for. (Joke, here, just a joke.)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-07-05 01:46 PM
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19. Dick Cheney is only 3 years older
although it may look like 20! The sports injuries seem worth it.
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