A small rant

[politicasista]

Since things seem to be getting worse in Iraq (18 American casualties reported today at Abu Grahib) all this IWR talk, who voted for or against it is nauseating. Sometimes I wished that Kerry wouldn't have trusted Smirky in the first place and stood with Kennedy, Boxer, Feingold and everyone else who refused to give authority to the illegal war. I am tired of all the second guessing in GDP over Kerry and Clinton's IWR votes. (I didn't even post there) All this hating just makes me wish that the Kerry, the war protester would have stood up and voted no against giving * the power to start this illegal war, then people everywhere would be satisfied and the troops could come home now.

I am ok, just frustrated right now.

[JI7]

1. even if Kerry had voted no we would still be there

the fact that people dwell on that vote rather than dealing with reality shows to me that many of them don't really care about what is happening. (and i'm not talking about you politicasista as i know you are fair, i'm talking about those who do nothing but just complain about that vote)

just like that time when kerry and kennedy called for a similar process in iraq and the only difference was kennedy called for specific dates for pullouts while kerry didn't. and people started bashing kerry for not calling for the specific date rather than discuss the process which both of them called for.

[TayTay]

2. I understand. Hindsight is always 20/20

This wouldn't have helped though. The lefty freepers would have found something else to carp about. While I disagreed with Senator Kerry about his IWR vote, I have accepted it. He is a smart guy with a good moral compass and he had his reasons. I have just moved on.

Telling lefty freepers that you have 'moved on' provokes moral outrage. I understand why. I respect their reasons, as long as they are consistent and not just 'I dislike Kerry because I just dislike him.' I have agreed to disagree with them and they have agreed to not ever let it go. They can't affect me and I can't effect them. Sigh!

I have a question for you. (Feel free to say, TayTay, I don't want to answer any questions, bug off.) It is off topic, as are all my questions.

Sens. Kerry and Snowe got funding restored for the SBA's Microloan program. They wrote this: http://sbc.senate.gov/production/record.cfm?id=234421

Passed by unanimous consent, the amendment provides an additional $78 million for the SBA's microloan program, Small Business Development Centers, procurement center representatives, the HUBZone program, and others. When Congress returns from recess in April, the budget resolutions passed by both chambers will go to conference to work out the differences between each bill.

Snip

In a statement prepared exclusively for BLACK ENTERPRISE, Kerry said, “If you believe in an opportunity society, we should be making loans more available, not less. That's why our amendment helps reverse the president's repeated cuts on small business assistance. It shows that Congress will come together in a bipartisan way to reject the administration's short-sighted budget priorities and stand up for America's small business owners.”

Is this something that you have heard about? This restored funding for loans that benefit people trying to get businesses going in urban centers and benefit minorities. Is this ever touted anywhere? Sometimes I think that Kerry does good things, but nobody knows about it because good Dem news just can't seem to break through.

Again, just looking for some thoughts, no biggie.

[politicasista]

3. I haven't heard about it, but this is good news

I know he met with some AA business leaders during the election. Of course, like the coporate media, the urban media is preoccupied with gossip or what Bill Cosby said a year ago(which was the truth),(i.e. Michael Jackson) therefore, it was ignored. I spread the word about what Kerry has been doing (for those who care) at other people from time to time even though it gets overlooked by Tavis Smiley or some other peeps in the media. Thanks for posting this Tay Tay. I love your optimism. :hi:

P.S. I would have liked the campaign to put Ms. Devona Doolittle (I think that was her name) out more. She was one of the campaign spokespeople who did a good job for Kerry when it came to AA concerns as did Dr. Susan Rice. (She was good!).

[TayTay]

4. I want them to find the woman in NYC who spoke ...

at the Social Security seminar early last month. Vicki Owens. Ooh, she was wonderful. She spoke simply, said what she needed to say with passion and emphasis and I loved her! (She was paired with Sen. Dick Durbin at this appearance. Gawd, I wish the Dems would use her again, if she wishes.)

Thanks for the recommendations on Devona Doolittle and Dr. Susan Rice. I will look them up. Dr. Rice sounds familiar. (I know, nat that Dr. Rice LOl!) Is she from Atlanta?

[Vektor]

5. Don't let it get to you, sista...

No matter what Kerry says or does, his critics will find a way to lambaste him. Nothing will ever be good enough for them. Sooooo, he may as well just be himself, and do what he feels is right, and his true supporters will understand. His critics can stuff it. Who gives a flying shit what they think, anyway? They couldn't do his job if they tried, which is probably the source of all their rancor. They see a better man, and they have to try to knock him down in hopes of making themselves feel better. It's small, sad, and pitiful, and none of us in here ought to waste a second of our precious Kerry-loving time paying them any mind at all. This is the KERRY FORUM, so naysayers can check themselves at the door, right?

:-)

[politicasista]

6. Right, thanks Vektor

Sometimes I wish he would just explain the real reason why he conceded. I know cause I heard they weren't enough votes to win Ohio, but he said he had our backs during the campaign, promising that every vote would count. It's depressing seeing all these "he folded like a tent, coward, caved in to the Chimp, Skulls and Bones" junk. It's so bad that I don't even post there.

I do hope he can follow through on making sure that every vote would count. I know people do remember that and say "at least Gore or someone else would have fought. " Maybe it would shut people up, but very unlikely.

[foreverdem]

7. Not enough proof?

I think it may have been that he didn't feel he had enough proof and that he knew the repubs had covered their tracks so well that it would have taken months to prove, if it could ever be proven. Maybe he figured deep down that he would just be better off getting what he could get done in the Senate instead of dragging this on for months. That' just my opinion, though. I wish we could get him to tell us if that is the real reason, but that would only be done off the record, I'm sure.

It must have killed him to see chimp inaugerated.

[blm]

8. First off, Bush was going in anyway under the 1991 UN resolution.

They already planned that and they DID have a legal leg to stand on.

Kerry expected to be the next president and he had to be mindful of preserving the PROCESS of the Congressional resolution. Especially since he planned to use that process if necessary, himself.

Also, it was the negotiations of Dems like Kerry, Biden, Daschle and Gephardt that limited any military actions to Iraq when Bush wanted the resolution to extend to Iran and Syria. They also negotiated for the weapons inspectors to go in first, which Bush did not want for obvious reasons.

So, I think those that get angry at that vote are mainly ignorant of process, have no concern for preservation of process, and have no clue that the negotiations for that resolution prevented the invasion of Iran and Syria which Bush would have marched into immediately after the fall of Baghdad.

Others who are angry are just agitators who bring up those votes just to further dissension on the left. There is no honesty in their positions. They are only concerned with fostering resentment towards Kerry by parroting complaints from those on the left who are basically unaware. I wouldn't even doubt that there are operatives posing as Kerry supporters who stir up crap and unnecessary division.....sometimes using rightwing talking points, and sometimes using faux-leftist talking points in hope of extending the primary wars for their own ends.

I am sure you must have noticed much of that yourself.