Kerry doesn't join the sixteen "crossover" Dems in

[saracat]

crossing over to the dark side on to end bankruptcy debate! Bless him. He didn't weasel out1 I will refrain from commenting on what I think of the action of these sixteen but I am unhappy with them!

Biden (D-DE), Yea
Byrd (D-WV), Yea
Carper (D-DE), Yea
Conrad (D-ND), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Yea
Kohl (D-WI), Yea
Landrieu (D-LA), Yea
Lieberman (D-CT), Yea
Lincoln (D-AR), Yea
Nelson (D-FL), Yea
Nelson (D-NE), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Salazar (D-CO), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Yea

They have more info on this over at http://www.politicalstrategy.org/archives/001214.php .

[politicasista]

1. Thank goodness Obama isn't on that list.

[saracat]

3. Yeah. Maybe he is getting the messge. I have been ready to

smack him on the side of the head several times, but this is a positive sign on his part!:)

[kerrygoddess]

32. When it comes to this sort of stuff

Kerry needs no smack aside his head... research his record!

[saracat]

33. I wasn't talking about Kerry! We were talking about Obama needing a smack,

but he seems to be on the right side of this issue!:) Kery's voting record is fabulous!

[cestpaspossible]

2. Mostly the usual suspects

[saracat]

5. Well, Byrd is a bit of a surprise , but there may be pork for his state.

He is big on that , unfortunately.

[cestpaspossible]

6. Stabenow and Kohl, too.

I don't really know a lot about them, but I don't usually associate their names with the others on this list.

[JI7]

7. i think both are up for re-election in 06

i wonder if that has to do with anything. i could be wrong though.

[politicasista]

4. That's also good Kerry didn't join the sixteen crossovers list

Couldn't edit the last post.

[LittleClarkie]

8. Increasingly, I will have to hold my nose to campaign for Kohl

unless someone presents themselves as a candidate to challenge him.

Thank God Feingold isn't there too, or I'd really have a problem.

[cestpaspossible]

9. I'd be interested in hearing his reasons

perhaps as a constituent, you would receive a reply if you asked for an explanation, which you could then share with us...

[Withywindle]

11. Feingold spoke out really strongly today...

...on the unfairness of treating big corporations much more leniently than small businesses WRT bankruptcy. Here's his amendment: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:SP00089:

Shot down of course. (These fuckers have no souls). But it was good to watch him speak at least.

[TayTay]

10. Kerry was one of only 15 to vote agin it in '01

So, I'm not surprised he was pretty down the line on the Bankruptcy Bill. (He only voted the wrong way on one amendment.)

BTW, I love Sen. Dick Durbin. Just love him. Every time I see him on the floor of the Senate I just stop and listen. He is a wonderful speaker and has a gift for how he phrases complex issues. Illinois people are lucky to have him.:loveya:

[Withywindle]

12. Yes, we are lucky!

I was home this afternoon so I watched him all day.

Durbin :loveya:
He takes no crap, and he refuses to take it with such style. (I've have heard a lot of people saying lately they wish he'd run for Pres, cause he does have a certain Midwestern everyman quality that could appeal to the cheap seats who vote on that, while also being very smart, shrewd, and eloquent. But alas it seems that Midwestern everyman quality is actually all too real--he just doesn't have that slightly insane level of ambition!)

[TayTay]

13. So he is your 'Esteemed Senior Senator'

He is just great. I like him more everytime I see him. (Kerry/Durbin in '08?)

When was he first elected? Some states change Senators a lot. We haven't changed Senators in 20 years. :loveya:

[Withywindle]

14. First Senate win '96

He was the Dem candidate that year when our beloved Paul Simon retired. He'd been in the House since the early 80s before that.

That particular Senate seat of ours doesn't change hands very often. The other one appears to be cursed--really, really hoping Obama can break it.

[WildEyedLiberal]

31. Kerry/Durbin 2008

Oh, so sweet that would be. Yes, precious.

[JohnKleeb]

16. Yeah I remember reading in a Moore book about that

That the only ones who were against it then were some of the more weathly senators. Kudos to John, gotta love him.

[JohnKleeb]

15. Good for Kerry and all those who said no

[JohnKleeb]

17. You said Byrd may have voted aye for pork?

Rockefeller either didnt vote or voted no. Weird thing about Byrd and Rockefeller, Byrd will make some votes that you really like and Rockefeller will make some that you don't but I think for the most part, Rockefeller is my prefered of the two senators though I love Bobby Byrd's outspokeness, I think Jay Rockefeller is great too.

[JI7]

18. i kind of see it the same way

while Byrd is much better in the way he goes after the Bush administration it seems when you look at the overall record on issues Rockefeller is much better. especially since Rockefeller comes from a rich family unlike Byrd yet Rockefeller seems more liberal on economic issues.

[JohnKleeb]

19. It does seem like that

Rockefeller is the more economically liberal and the more socially liberal too, for the former yeah it is weird. Yes, I love how Byrd goes after the Bush adminstration but I think Jay has the better record, which is as you say odd because of his not so humble orgins, and Byrd we of course know is a coal miner's kid, when I first learned about Byrd, I used to think he was a big time economic liberal, not true really. To be honest though, I would be happy to have either of them as my senator.

[seito]

20. Proud to say my two MD Senators held the line

Good for Kerry, and for all the other Dems that did not cower to the corporate interests.

:yourock:

[JohnKleeb]

21. Sarbines and Muiliksi are among the top duos

:), I like them, and I envy you, I Am right across, sigh in ole Virginia.

[seito]

23. What a difference a few miles make

I am a California native. That will always be home for me, but as long as I am here, it is nice to have some good representative in Washington. Now, if we can just send the Governor back home. (He comes from my county.)

[elshiva]

24. That's Sarbanes and Mikulski to you, whippersnapper!

I love them! Great Dem duo, Kerry/Kennedy without the fame.

[JohnKleeb]

25. I cant spell Polish names

and I am tired from being in the snow, so there. Apparently not Greek names either, damnit.

[elshiva]

26. Sorry about the snow. I guess it was worse in DC?

Northern MD got less than an inch.

[JohnKleeb]

27. Oh I didnt head downtown today

It was only bad for me since I have some classes outside, and I was dressed up like I had to go to DC today but I didnt have to go because of the snow.

[ginnyinWI]

22. Wisconsin split

Feingold--against, Kohl--for.

[karynnj]

28. NJ 's Senators were both nos

I like both. I am so glad Lautenberg came back.

[JohnKleeb]

29. I like Lautenburg better than Torrecelli, Frank is a credit to the GI Bill

[karynnj]

30. I think most Jersey Democrats

were very happy that they didn't have to vote for Torrecelli as all the scandals came out. They wanted either Bradley or Lautenberg to run because it was only about 8 weeks before the election. The Republicans were mad that they were allowed to drop Torrecelli and add Lautenberg. But they actually had to delay their primary for Governor a year or two before to drop the Acting Governor because of his scandals.