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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 12:33 PM
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Oooooh - Ezra Klein on Kerry
Edited on Mon Oct-16-06 12:52 PM by whometense
http://www.prospect.org/weblog/2006/10/post_1662.html#013977

WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN. As this wide-ranging interview with Bob Woodward illustrates, John Kerry would have made a very, very good president. Much better than he seemed during the campaign, possibly even finer than his performance suggested at the debates. It's a trite truth and a crying shame that our system encourages the qualities that make a very good campaigner rather than a fine leader. It's into that chasm that Kerry falls. But it's worth reading his talk with Woodward to get a flavor of how a grown-up would be dealing with the world.

--Ezra Klein


If you're so inspired you can go over and comment on how very correct he is.

And maybe a little slap for the D'Oh! of gee, Ezra, how much attention were you actually paying to Kerry during the campaign????
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StoryTeller Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 12:54 PM
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1. I left a comment...
Posted as "Meredith"
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 01:09 PM
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2. I saw it -
wonderful comment!!!! I thought that might be you.

Bragan's really getting under my skin.
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StoryTeller Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 01:20 PM
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3. Thanks!
I've never been to that blog before. I don't know any of the other commenters. But I was...under-whelmed by most of them. :)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 01:57 PM
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4. and can you repost in GD
Ezra Klein finally takes fingers out of ears and LISTENS to Kerry
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 02:14 PM
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5. great subject line!
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 03:19 PM
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6. WOW
Klein used to HATE Kerry. This is stunning.

The tide is turning folks... keep pushing... no surrender.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:09 PM
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7. The comments suck pretty bad
"No one in the right mind wants Kerry in 2008."

:eyes:

Wow, I must not be in my right mind, then! I'm sure glad I have "Steve" on the American Prospect blog to tell me so!

Isn't it amazing how all of the bashers on these blog posts manage to sound EXACTLY like the mealy-mouthed, triangulating Beltway image consultants they claim Kerry is beholden to?
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:23 PM
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8. I haven't been back over there since my last comment.
It was pissing me off too much.

Those people need to get a life. I was having my issues with "Bragan." What a jerk.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-16-06 09:28 PM
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9. Bragan, Steve, and Adam
Were all first class douchebags. Don't they realize how stale and 2003 their talking points are?

Specialist is just ludicrous. Why does a right wing troll waste its time at a liberal blog? I certainly wouldn't spend 8 hours a day trolling the National Review blog and getting piled on by all the Republicans there. He must be a masochist.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:41 AM
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10. MORE from Ezra
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 08:42 AM by whometense
http://www.prospect.org/weblog/2006/10/post_1667.html#013989

IN PRAISE OF GOOD ENOUGH. A couple folks, including Jason Zengerle and Ross Douthat, wonder why I thought John Kerry's overdue interview with Bob Woodward put the former nominee in a positive light. As they noted, nothing he said was particularly revolutionary, and most of it just relies on gathering noted experts and listening to them. Which, I'd suggest, would be a genuine improvement. But if Kerry's comments are a bit overly resonant of Ross Perot's "I'll get all the smart people, lock 'em in a room, and not feed 'em till they finish" attitude towards governance, there's a more serious reason I found the interview worthwhile.

First, there's a fair amount of common sense in there that hasn't been particularly common in government as of late. After 9/11, Kerry says he would have asked, "What are we up against? What is this all about? Did these guys just attack us because this is part of Osama bin Laden's strategy for a greater caliphate in the Middle East, or are they attacking us for other reasons?" If that question had been asked, we'd all be better off. Similarly, if the Bush administration had been more cognizant that the post-9/11 moment was a special and unique opportunity, much could've been done. But their instinct was to press the advantage, not let up a little and work within broad consensus. So when Iran came in 2003 begging for a grand bargain, they sent the Ayatollahs packing. And now, in a weaker moment, we can't even get them back to the table. I could turn this into a much longer post, as, to me, it's the greatest of Bush's manifold sins and failures. But to put it pithily, 9/11 could have been used to make the world a better place. It wasn't.

Moreover, Kerry's reflections and ideas bespeak a caution that sounds comforting to me. It might create a sort of indecisiveness, hearing from and listening to that many people, but I would vastly prefer an administration in slight awe of the scale of these issues to one dead set on denying their complexity. Kerry's admission of instincts in that direction, an admission he clearly felt would make him appear weak during the campaign, signals that he would have pursued a management style that's safer, more mature, and more likely to actually generate good outcomes than what we've seen lately. All that said, it is true that nothing he said suggests a visionary or brilliant outlook. So if my praise suggested otherwise, it's just that, after the last few years, good enough seems pretty damn great.

--Ezra Klein
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